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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:47 PM
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Senate approves Pryor for court, nears end of deal
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-06-09-pryor_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

WASHINGTON (AP) — The GOP-controlled Senate on Thursday approved former Alabama Attorney General William Pryor for a seat on the U.S. Appeals Court, nearing the end of an unprecedented run of long-delayed judicial confirmations.
With a vote of 53-45, Pryor was approved for 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the Atlanta-based court that handles federal appeals from Alabama, Georgia and Florida.

President Bush gave Pryor a recess appointment in February 2004 after Democrats filibustered his confirmation. That appointment would have ended this year if Pryor had not been confirmed by the Senate.

The Senate has confirmed three of President Bush's most-wanted appellate nominees in less than three weeks after a deal struck by Senate centrists looking to avoid a partisan battle over judicial filibusters.


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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:49 PM
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1. I'm so happy the Dems made this deal ...
otherwise we would have had some really bad judges on the bench. Oh wait ... :eyes:
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:18 PM
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12. Yea, Ain't it just grand!!! Now frist can wipe his ass with the document
and flush it down the crapper like he promised his jebus freaks he would do. When will those Domocrats learn that they can't negotiate with those terrorists repuklicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:49 PM
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2. Just fabulous. I feel like a dog getting it's nose rubbed in shit. -eom
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:52 PM
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3. The lame-brained
dems who struck a deal with the repugs on the filibuster have been had; and they've sold us down the pike.
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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:55 PM
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5. How have they been had?
The agreed to a vote on Pryor and kept their part of the bargain.

It's not surpising that once voted on, he squeaked through.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:04 PM
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6. The GOP "compromisers" lied.
They winked at the Dems and implied that of the three (Owens, Brown, Pryor) one would lose a confirmation vote.
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yebrent Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:07 PM
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8. Have all three been confirmed?
Cause I do remember that one would most likely lose on an up or down vote.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:19 PM
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18. All three indeed have now been confirmed
:puke:

Pryor was the closest vote.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:07 PM
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7. True
It's too bad that Frist does not feel bound by that agreement, and Bush is planning to nominate more judges with the same credentials as Owens, Brown, and Pryor.

Yes the agreement worked out just fine, at least it showed that the Democratic Senators can keep their word.

It's unfortunate that the Republicans will still use the "Nuclear Option", for the next group of Hitler's --- I mean Bush's judicial
choices.
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yebrent Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:11 PM
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9. If the Republicans use the nuclear option...
...the closer it is to the 2006 election the better for us. And if it gets used for the Supreme Court nomination, the better it is for us.

IMO, giving up a few more bad judicial apointments was worth it to delay it that much closer to the 2006 eletion. The nuclear option and the Dems reponse of shutting down the Senate will play badly for the Republicans. It makes them look like spoiled brats who can't play by the rules, even when they have a majority advantage.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:49 PM
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16. I disagree
First off it's more than a few, and these appointments are for life, so even if by some miracle the Republicans actually lose seats in the Senate, they will already have put the noecon agenda into play.

And if Renquist retires, then all hell will break loose. Frist will use the nuclear option, and the Republicans will get their Supreme
Court Justice, with Scalia as Chief Justice.

The only way that it will play badly for the Republicans, is if the media grows a backbone, and there is the problem.

I have yet to hear of any Republcans saying that Rick Perry of Texas
went to far when he said that gay veterans can leave the state if they don't like the law against gay marriage, and even the national
media has said little to nothing about his comment, but they sure are
climbing up Howard Dean's ass for his comments about the Republicans.

The Republicans with the assistance of a complicit media will spin it, and the brain dead, kool-aid drinking sheep will swallow it. And the blame will fall on the Democrats, as has been the case in the last few years.



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yebrent Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:29 PM
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19. The overreaching has to backfire eventually.
I guess it doesn't have to, but I believe it will. Triggering the "nuclear" option and breaking 200+ years of Senate tradition is as big of a wake up call as we are going to get.

If the media will spin this for the Republicans as bad as you say they will, then triggering the nuclear option weeks ago wouldn't be any better. The nominations would of gone through with no ability to filibuster and the media would have hammered the Democrats for putting a halt to Senate business. We would not be in any better a situation.

If you are going to be so negative, then please have a viable alternative. If what you say about the media is true, then the Dems were damned if they did or damned if they didn't.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:54 PM
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4. it's always that 56-53 majority
not near the 60+ F(r)istula claimed
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:15 PM
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10. more GOP spin...
Straight out of the Republican talking points. What a nice impartial little blurb this is.

The GOP-controlled Senate on Thursday approved former Alabama Attorney General William Pryor for a seat on the U.S. Appeals Court, nearing the end of an unprecedented run of long-delayed judicial confirmations.

Assholes.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:17 PM
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11. Get over it; there is no opposition party
Reid & Co = rubber stamp

Welcome to the new Soviet Union.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:21 PM
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13. What a great fricking deal
We get to keep the filibuster as long as we don't use it. In the meantime, nazi's like Brown, Owen and Pryor have lifetime appointments to the court of appeals. And you can bet that one of these kooks will be nominated for the supreme court in 2-3 years. Hey Ben Nelson, this was really a great deal -- thanks a lot for the kick in balls.
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:33 PM
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15. My Money Is on BROWN____she'll rule Social Security is
UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just what Heir bush intented all along. Then he won't need no fucking votes in Congress.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:32 PM
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14. found this article
'Most Homophobic Judge' in America Wins Lifetime Appointment


http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/06/060905pryor.htm
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:50 PM
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17. Its wonderful to have the filibuster and be unable to use it!
So, uh, what's the political advantage when they use the nuclear option to put on a supreme court neocon, as opposed to a circuit court one?
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:02 PM
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20. It was my understanding that the 7 Repugs who signed the
agreement would not support a nuclear option now. Without their votes Frist cannot quell filibuster. I am inclined to think that it was as good as we are going to get until we regain some clout.
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Internut Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:26 PM
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24. The seven Republicans agreed that they would
not support the "nuclear option" - but with the caveat. The seven Republicans would have to ALL agree with the Democrats that the particular candidate that is being nominated constitutes an "extraordinary circumstance". If the Republican senators do not feel that the nomination is "extraordinary", they are free to vote for the "nuclear option".

See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/29/AR2005052900812.html

DeWine and Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) have disputed the assertion by Reid and other Democrats that the nuclear option is off the table. DeWine said he explicitly raised the issue just before the group announced the deal on Monday night. "I said at the end, 'Make sure I understand this now, that . . . if any member of this group thinks the judge is filibustered under circumstances that are not extraordinary, that member has the right to vote at any time for the constitutional option.' Everyone in the room understood that."

Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), another member of the group, concurred, saying that while he hopes the nuclear option is gone for the duration of the 109th Congress, circumstances could bring it back. "I really think Senator DeWine and Senator Graham have it right," he said.

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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:06 PM
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25. Good thing those 3 judges don't constitute "extraordinary circumstance"
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:12 PM
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21. Anyone really think this "deal" will "save the Supreme Court"? sick
sick sick. If Dems don't gain seats in the Senate, tort reform will have taken place via judicial appointments.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:14 PM
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22. I told everyone here long ago. The Phony Filibuster Fight.
What a crock. Harry Reid, a fighter? Pulleaze.
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:17 PM
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23. About Pryor from an Alabamian
Pryor was my Att. General and the only thing he ever did right was remove Roy Moore from his job and toss him on his ass. Otherwise he is a steaming pile of horse flop.
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