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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 04:55 PM
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Attorney Gen. Urges Sentencing Guidelines
WASHINGTON -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales called Tuesday for requiring federal judges to adhere to guidelines that set mandatory minimum prison sentences, saying there is evidence of growing disparity in jail terms since a landmark Supreme Court ruling.

Gonzales, speaking to a conference of the National Center for Victims of Crime, also said judges should retain their discretion in imposing harsher prison terms than set out in sentencing guidelines.

Sentencing guidelines for federal prisoners have been in place for nearly two decades. But the Supreme Court in January said making the guidelines mandatory violated a defendant's Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial because they call for judges to make factual decisions that could add to prison time, such as the amount of drugs involved in a crime.
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Former Attorney General Edwin Meese, a Republican, and former Deputy Attorney General Philip Heymann, a Democrat, are among those urging Congress not to rush to make changes, saying the system is not in crisis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/AR2005062100611.html
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 04:57 PM
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1. Edwin Meese?
mr. porn? :wow: I am in never never land now.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 05:03 PM
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2. Why not have a computer do it? Who needs judges anyway?
Are they so desperately afraid of someone not going to jail?
:banghead::banghead:
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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3. kick
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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4. Attorney general pushing for harsher sentences
Attorney general pushing for harsher sentences
He asks Congress to force judges to follow guidelines instead of using own discretion
By ALEXIS GRANT
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, saying that some federal judges are imposing light sentences, called on Congress on Tuesday to require the jurists to follow uniform guidelines for punishments.


He urged Congress to pass a law to fix what he called the "increasing disparity in sentences and a drift toward lesser sentences" since the Supreme Court ruled earlier this year that mandatory sentencing guidelines were unconstitutional.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3235597
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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5. Seems silly
If mandatory sentencing guidelines are deemed unconstitutional than it should follow that any attempt to force judges to impose sentences mandated from on high are unconstitutional. Judges have discretion. Period.

I'm terribly sorry if Mr. Gonzales doesn't like that.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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6. There's just something wrong with having a for-profit prison-industry
There's just something wrong with one group of people having a monetary investment in locking more and more people up for longer and longer times, and one group profiting from it. What happens to justice in such a system?


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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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7. nothing Torture Boy does would surprise me
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:02 AM
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13. To the conservative mind, "corrections" are a crime
It's about punishment and retaliation. These guys feel the god-given mission to smite offenders in their ugly little hearts, and sentencing is ONLY about meting out pain and privation.

To them, correction and preparation for living a good life on the outside is entirely the responsibility of the guilty as he/she buckles under the pressures of a deliberately brutal incarceration. The only mitigation to this is if Jesus is brought in; that's okay, because it contributes another bot to the cause.
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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8. Is Halliburton building prisons now?
Gotta fill em, specially with them pot-smokers
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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9. Nearly
Most of the US prisons are run by a private corporation called Wackenhut (yes, it's really called that). I'm sure that if you dig deep enough you'll find that someone in the US government is profitting from human incarcartion.

Of course, once there's a profit incentive it automatically follows that these same people will push for more and more laws and "tougher" and longer sentences for frivolous "crimes".
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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10. Here is an interesting article on Wackenhut ---
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:02 AM
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14. FEMA budget has been in the trillions
FEMA has been laudering money for the black ops projects and building 'emergency housing' since Reagan. The PNAC has been in the plan for 25 yrs, so far.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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11. But they aren't Nazis...APOLOGIZE!
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 AM
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12. Always had a soft spot in my heart for keelhauling...
Just think of it as waterboarding with some pizazz.
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