Study: Married men earn more if wives do the chores

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050621/od_uk_nm/oukoe_life_wages



complete story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050621/od_uk_nm/oukoe_life_wages

been there, done that.

Geezus H. Kreist.

Can an article get any more sexist and misleading than this?

Screeemmmm!

Sue

Married man makes 3% more if wifey does all the housework.

So instead of making lets give a generous $40K per annum, he makes 41.2K.

Whoopee!

Much better than having the wife go out and make 20-30 or 40K herself if she chooses.

What some men won't do to get out of cleaning house. (Me too, for that matter.)

...that means she could, conceivably, live independent of her husband if she needed to. You KNOW we can't have that....:sarcasm:

They are screwing around with cause and effect with that story. Which came first, the rich guy or the homemaker? Most women can't AFFORD to stay home and do housework, although some would actually like to.

3% isn't really much considering that there would be more money comeing in if both worked.

The wife who makes more than her husband DEMANDS that he do more about the house.

Why is this so difficult for people to understand?

...are willing to do more chores for a spouse that earns a lot of money.

Men who earn more money can be choosier, and may marry women who agree to do more housework.

married couples hiring maids to do the chores? There are maid services that are affordable to most Middle class households, especially those with 2 incomes.

When are they going to do the study that proves that men are happiest if their wives work for a good paycheck but make sure they get home in time to cook his dinner and then spend the weekends doing all the housework?

pick one.

Add racism and you get a trifecta...

porr fellas, what happens when mom's too old to cook and do their laundry anymore.

;)

Sorry, couldn't resist. :evilgrin: ;)

;)

...a stream of expletives on the keyboard!
:wtf:

about 3%? And just how does that mean the guy makes less? Because he has to take time off to piss and moan about his mean ol' woman who won't stay home and do the dishes or fold his laundry? To me that points to this being a man's frigging problem.

PLUS, if a woman works she more than makes up for the testicular whinebags shortfall anyway.

Crap, I am so sick and tired of this shit. When will we get passed this pathetic whiny crap?

Of course the unmarried guy spends more time on housework, and is consequently more tired and less productive (experience speaking here).

Were any controls done with married men or women with housekeepers?

70 hours a week to earn the "big bucks" the housework went to my wife by default-I wasn't there to help.

A guy who makes more money (and it doesn't even have to be a guy) is more likely to be able to support a homemaker than one who makes less.

As for the mere 3% difference, "I've got a wife/family to support" is often a successful way to get a raise. Employers will justify this.

A married couple who have a greater income can afford to allow one of them to stay home to undertake the equally difficult job of childraising and home and property care.

No politics involved. Do what needs to be done to have a sane living environment.

For every study you can whip out to support an idea, there's one to contradict it. That alone was worth my MA.

but we single guys get to watch more sports.

...a married man whose wife does not go out to work but is primarily responsible for the cooking and cleaning earns about 3 percent more than comparably employed single men.

Well, duh! Why wouldn't ANYONE who can come home to a clean house, eat dinner without planning or preparing it, then sack out in front of the TV while the dished are being wash be a less distracted, less stressed, and more energetic employee? Women with a stay-at-home husbands who do all the housework, and single people with roomate who do all the housework probably earn more money than their single counterparts, too. To figure that out, someone had to do a freaking STUDY????

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rocknation

we had a house servant? I'd be back to six figures if I had a "house husband" around here, but seriously-who wants to spend their days doing housework?

This isn't "news" - it's just misogynistic tripe. Would they print an article saying women earn more if men do the chores...? Hmmm....

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all they have shown is that a married couple that partitions domestic and professional tasks has a possible advantage over (1) a married couple that does not partake in such a division of labor and (2) a single male. I fail to see how this study (at least as the article describes it) can speak to a particular male-female dynamic advantage which leads to the claim that "married men earn more if wives do the chores."

To begin to make such a study complete they would have to run a parallel comparison of single women and married women who earn an income while the husbands stay home and perform varied degrees of domestic tasks. This would have to take into account the percentage income gap that already exists between men and women.

when I get home I still have to make myself dinner and if necessary clean, do laundry, do errands - I'm sure I'd be more rested and productive if my free time was real free time. JEEZ.

At least, that's the way it is in my household!

I'm hoping my wife's salary passes mine by the end of the year, if not sooner!

since I started staying home and cooking supper. We're still several thousands short of what we made when both of us worked, however. Could have hired a couple of servants on the difference....

This poll is so stupid.

They never let up do they?

The past. That's where the Republicans dream of living. God, do they ever look forward, except for times where it will make them cash on someone else's back?

if the wife does the cooking/cleaning in high heels and pearls.

I think we would be doing better financially I if went back to work.

I'd kill her! just kidding, of course... but, unless she absolutely hated her job, I'd encourage her to stick with it.

We never had family time so I quit and we downsized. I am now known as one of the most overqualified stay at home moms in the neighborhood.

I only earned half as much as you but after I added it all up -- childcare, gas, even lunches and work clothes, I decided to stay home with the girls. I was starting to envy the nanny when I left in the morning, because if I had to work late I saw them for like an hour before bedtime.

I can sort of see this working with either spouse -- if you have someone whose main job is dealing with the kids and school and house stuff then of course, it is easier for the other spouse to work more hours, go on business trips, work for an advanced degree or whatever. I think it would work the same if I was working and he held down the fort here though!

I thought I was pretty cool being a former flight attendant and my neighbor had stayed at home for 7 years. She had mentioned meeting her husband at work and I asked what she did - she was a former chemist for NASA working on their rocket fule - she was a friggin ROCKET SCIENTIST! LOL!! I didn't feel too cool after telling her I poured Pepsi at 30,000 feet. I would have never guessed it.

Wives of men who earn more are ABLE to stay home and do the chores. Geez. :banghead:

My MARRIED MAN US soldier husband doesn't even gross in a year what I pay TAXES in a year!

So FOAD, arseholes.

can afford to have a wife who stays home and does the chores?

My wife was in the rat race until I started earning enough so that she did not have to work for sexist bastards anymore.

Guess what, I still do a good portion of the chores.

enough to afford a stay at home spouse.

That is a hoot.

I earn $X now, as a single guy.
I get married, but my wife still works, I still earn $X.
Wifey STOPS working, suddenly I earn ($X)1.03.

WHY?
It sure as shit isn't because I have more time to "Hone" my job skills. Like I'm going to bring VCR's home? or stay at work another 2 hours working instead of going home and cleaning the fish tank?

That whole article sounded like Bullshit. And it's allegedly a BRITISH study.

In one of the check-out tabloids, I think maybe "Weekly World News", ALL of the most bizarre stories come from Britain. Come to think of it, the style they're written in is similar to that Reuter's story.

Now...woman....go to the kitchen and make me a pie!

Just kidding of course. I've already been called a homophobe gay basher for voicing an opinion on DU recently, I may as well be branded a sexist too!

What does this say about gay men? I've heard that the average gay man's income is quite a bit higher than the average straight man's. True? who's home doing HIS dishes?

Note: this comes out of research from Essex. My Newcastle girlfriend is going to have a blast with this one.

position so the "breadwinner" dedicates more time to the work.

As half of a same sex couple I think one of us might earn more if the other could pick up all the other daily chores. But it wouldn't be a gender thing (obviously), just allocation of resources. And of course one of us still wouldn't earn more than both of us.

The study is bias in only studying the MEN and not trying to further understand what the info means.

The reality is, a stay at home parent is a House Hold Manager. That means there is a full time person who is responsible for not only the HOME, but the children, doctor appointments, teacher appointments, class assignments, sport events, etc. These things take time and energy to do. And can be stressful at times.

A Nanny could do the job as well.... Another words, a person could be HIRED to do the job if need be.

As to why a person who has such a House Hold Manager could earn more... it's very easy. Less personal calls on the job, less family emergencys requiring their immediate attention. This makes them more reliable on the job. They can work late at a momment's notice. Play kiss ass golf when needed... See the point?

This is one of the resons for that Glass Ceiling that has been bothering women for years. It was considered unacceptable that the HUSBAND would pick up certian responsiblities if the WOMAN'S job demanded he do so. It was automaticly expected for the wife to do such things, if the MAN'S job required her to do so. I'm talking by society as a whole, not the husband and wife. A single person was seen as not taking life seriously and a single person with children was seen as someone with no "back-up."

Things are changing. Men are no longer terrorized by their friends and peers if the wife brings home more bacon then he does. Instead... they are jeoulus of him. ;) This USE to be a very, very big deal. Now, men can be the "stay at home" person.

What they found is very logical. But they need to also include working couples with Nannys, Singles with Nannys, Wife who works/husband that stays at home. Other words, they are not getting a true picture of what they are trying to study.

Oh, that's right. They are trying to prove that wifes should stay at home. LOL! Oh well, me bad.

They're is nothing better then watching them "hang themselves." And they're doing such a "fine job" at that! No wonder their faithful followers are brainless - their leaders are, too.

all the help at Windsor Castle and figure out if Queen Elizabeth or Prince Phillip do anything at all around the house?

From the 1970s and Marlo Thomas' wonderful ode --

"Your mother hates housework,
Your father hates housework,
And when you grow up
You'll hate housework, too!"

propelling the partner working.

and insist that his wife quit her 45K job so that he can get a 3% raise on his job.

It's all about the wifey staying home.

Well FUCK YOU, "academic at the University of Essex". You can kiss my money-making ass while I order some takeout.

send a check, every week! :sarcasm:

(do I even need to use the "sarcasm" smiley for that?)

This "study" was so messed up from the get-go, it's not even worth ranting about.
Their "parameters and preconceptions" MIGHT have had some TINY amount of validity back in 1955 or so....

....if "Leave It to Beaver" wasn't FICTION...

...and key word being "MIGHT".

But way back in the 1980s,
(here in the 'Reality-Based' world),
Some of our top research scientists discovered a FUNDAMENTAL CLICHE.

4 simple words which 'sum-up' this alleged "study":
"Garbage in, garbage OUT."

And that's all I have to say about THAT.

(EDITED for Dramatic Effect)

Marriage is a partnership, and if one covers the home front and one
the foreign front, its sorta like "domestic" and "foreign"... and when
one is out of kilter, the other suffers as well.

Who doesn't want to come home to a clean house, with bills paid, with
clean sheets, a clean bathroom, with healthy cooked food, loved children
and details sorted. It allows the "breadwinner" to keep their balance
in an unstable world. I think this study simply states the bleedin
obvious... just that they're wrong about tying it to gender. A
working woman needs a "wifey" as much as a working man.

Nice work, responsible adults of DU. Excellent. The most picky of all contributors is appeased--that's hard to do. All Dems together, now: Try again, Karl.

who cares.

....in Gary Indiana or Newark NJ

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What about men who stay home while the wife goes to work anyway?

Hell I got a laundry list of HONEY-do's that could keep me busy for years.

Lots of guys I talk to say being at work is much easier than being at home :shrug: