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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:36 PM
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Police arrest 17 in medical marijuana case's
Compassionate conservatism strikes again- Douchebags for liberty

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8333375/
:banghead:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:38 PM
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1. That's important
For a nation at war, we sure don't act like it. Justice Department wastes time, money and manpower on medicinal marijuana, pornography and prostitution rings.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:38 PM
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2. Grrrrrr - Why is it when I link to MSNBC - it's a blur
oddest thing - starts out okay - then as I move down the page, it's lines of the picture and unreadable
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:02 PM
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15. Junk coding - here's a clue -
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msnbc.msn.com%2Fid%2F8333375

130 errors

You'd think MSNBC could afford a decent coder or two!
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:40 PM
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3. Remember how the MSM said, the FBI won't waste their time on this.
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 09:41 PM by Democrats_win
Today they're coming for the sick, tomorrow they're coming for you.

Its time to fight before its too late.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:41 PM
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4. Throw the book at those drug-dealing scum! Hang 'em high!...
With all the things this country has to worry about, this issue is about #1000 on a list of the Top 100.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:44 PM
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5. Yeah, keep those pot smoking Grand-ma mas off of my sidewalk!
:sarcasm:

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:01 PM
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6. Glad all the seniors have enough money to buy prescription drugs-
Ooops they don't

Time to toke up to relieve the pain of your terminal cancer case Grandma </sarcasm>
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:45 PM
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7. Now find a jury of their peers to convict them, assholes ... nt
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:04 AM
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8. Slave Labour in Prisons
it's all part of the master plan.... Gotta' have some more bodies to crank out cheap labor to make goods for the elite...

Slave Labor in Utah

Prosecutor has jobs for medical marijuana users

Iron County Attorney Scott Burns (R) is creating a state sponsored scab labor force

Prosecutor Scott Burns is so addicted to cheap non-union labor that he is willing to throw the book at medical marijuana patients in Utah to put them in prison run sweatshops. Pending U.S. Senate confirmation he will head the part of the Drug Czar’s office that focuses on individual users of illegal drugs. They could very well end up making costumes for T.V. shows like E.R.

Scott Burns, if confirmed, will include medical-marijuana patients in the federal prison industry program. He will echo Congressman Bob Barr’s mantra “no marijuana use is medical” and off to prison they go. His appointment is a vote to broaden the scope of prison industries to include a lot more people and steal a lot of good jobs from people who are not in prison.

Medical marijuana patients as prison labor

Utah prison’s run like the “company store.” The prisoners pay the guards. The more prisoners, the more guard jobs. The prosecutor is the gatekeeper.

In Utah prisoners are being used as scabs: union-busters, cheap labor. Over 25% of state prison inmates work for Utah Correctional Industries. As prison laborers they have no rights. They are paid a small salary and the costs of their prison housing, food and guards are deducted from that salary. Marijuana smokers are perfect workers for this system because they’re a minority and society has accepted them as criminals for more than 70 years.

The state of Utah buys almost everything from prison industries shifting state purchasing contracts from the free market to state run sweatshops. This trend creates jobs for state police and prison guards but makes it harder for people who aren’t in prison to find work.

Need a Job? Go to Jail.

In the year 2000 Utah’s state owned prison industry sold the labor of over 900 people to American businesses. This lowers the paychecks and bargaining position of remaining workers in these businesses by pitting them against prisoners with no rights at all who can do their jobs for almost nothing. (I.e. Northern Outfitters – 87 workers, telemarketing for SandStar Entertainment and Inmark – 217 workers, Asbestos – 37 workers, Waste Recycling – 78 and much more.)

Instead of making commitments to real paid (or unionized) employees Utah Correctional Industries invites producers to set up shop inside prison walls. T.V. programs like “Chicago Hope”, “Touched By An Angel” and “Early Edition” are already buying prison made clothing.

“Scott Burns is radical in that he will include medical marijuana patients in prison labor industries. Prison labor makes working people in Utah accept smaller paychecks or lose their jobs entirely.” Explains CCU legislative analyst John Entwistle, “We fear he will take this approach with him into the Drug Czar’s office and create a federal army of scabs while targeting patients in the name of federal supremacy.”

http://www.marijuana.org/PRSlaveLaborinUtah.htm

Prison Factories:
Slave Labor for the New World Order?

by Charles Overbeck
Matrix Editor

The Justice Department reported in August that there are nearly 1.6 million men and women incarcerated in the United States -- currently the highest incarceration rate in the entire world. This startling figure tops off a decade of rapid expansion of America's prison population, fueled by a "war on drugs" that is steadily undermining the rights so succinctly expressed in the Bill of Rights more than 200 years ago.

As 1995 drew to a close, one out of every 167 Americans was in prison or jail, compared to one out of 320 in 1985, when the crack cocaine trade began to proliferate. The total number of inmates has more than doubled in the past decade, and we just can't seem to build enough prisons to keep them all in.

Add the trend towards private prison facility management and corporate use of prison labor, and you have an extremely unsettling social situation. Are we witnessing the creation of a slave labor force for the corporate New World Order?

Quite possibly, if the Oakhill Correctional Institute in Dane County, Wisconsin serves as a model. Seventeen inmates crowded in a makeshift basement factory in that facility crank out over a million dollars' worth of office chairs per year, in exchange for wages ranging from twenty cents to $1.50 per hour.

The operation is run by Badger State Industries, the Wisconsin prison industries program, which employs 600 inmates and which raked in a $1.2 million profit in 1995. In the past, to protect manufacturers from unfair competition, Wisconsin allowed sale of prison-made goods only to state and local government agencies. But Governor Tommy Thompson's new state budget allows commercial entities to use prison facilities and labor for manufacturing purposes. The money will be used to pay for the costs of incarcerating the prisoners -- including the ones who work in the factories.

Wisconsin is following the lead of other states, such as California, Tennessee, Kansas, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, Nevada and Iowa, which have incorporated prisoners into the labor force, placing artificial downward pressure on wages. Thousands of state and federal prisoners are currently generating more than $1 billion per year in sales for private businesses, often competing directly with the private sector labor force. The Correctional Industries Association predicts that by the year 2000, 30 percent of America's inmate population will labor to create nearly $9 billion in sales for private business interests.

Oregon has even started advertising its prison labor force and factories, claiming that businesses who utilize incarcerated workers would otherwise go overseas for cheap labor (thanks, GATT and NAFTA!). In 1995, an overwhelming majority of Oregon voters passed a constitutional amendment that will put 100 percent of its state inmates to work.

And they'll be making a lot more than license plates and road signs. One product of Oregon's inmate factories are uniforms for McDonald's. Tennessee inmates stitch together jeans for Kmart and JC Penney, as well as $80 wooden rocking ponies for Eddie Bauer. Mattresses and furniture are perennial favorites in prison factories, and Ohio inmates even produced car parts for Honda, until the United Auto Workers intervened. Prisoners have been employed doing data entry, assembling computer circuit boards and even taking credit card ticket orders for TWA.

But private industry isn't the only sector eager to exploit cheap prison labor. On June 14, 1995, the U.S. House of Representatives narrowly rejected an amendment to the 1996 Defense Authorization bill which would have permitted the Defense Department to use nonviolent offender inmates provided by state or local corrections facilities to do construction and maintenance services at military installations.

Although prison manufacturing facilities do offer short-term benefits at a time when budgets are strained to the breaking point, the system is ripe for exploitation and abuse by government and corporate entities seeking to cut financial corners. Proponents of prison labor say it is "good" for inmates, providing income and on-the-job training they would have never received otherwise.

But due to a lack of restrictions to prevent abuse of the prison labor force, many inmates view the situation very differently. At Soledad near Monterey, California, prisoners earn 45 cents per hour making blue work shirts, which, once deductions are taken out, adds up to $60 for a month of 40-hour work weeks. "They put you on a machine and expect you to put out for them," Soledad inmate Dino Navarrete told Arm the Spirit. "Nobody wants to do that. These jobs are jokes to most inmates here."

So why do they do it? In California, prisoners who refuse to work are moved to discliplinary housing and lose canteen priveleges, as well as "good time" credit that slices hard time off their sentences. Corporatization of prison labor abuses inmates, exploits their labor and inevitably reduces the value of the private sector work force. What is a troubling trend today may become a social and economic disaster in the future. ParaScope will be keeping a close eye on the trend towards prison labor; stay tuned for future updates on the situation.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0197/prison.htm

For more information, see the sources below, or consult the Prison Activist Resource Center.


http://www.igc.org/justice/issues/prison-labor/articles.html
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:32 AM
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12. Thanks you for your excellent and informative post
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Chrisduhfur Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:02 PM
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14. Maybe I am black hearted...
Maybe I am just a black hearted evil bastard, but I don't have a problem with forced labor in prisons. I know I know that many people will find this upsetting, but to be it seems like that would be a much better solution. Hell it might even make some people think twice before committing some crimes. Although I could see some potential problems with some greedy bastard throwing everyone in prison so they can have more output.... SPEEDING? That's 5 years in prison...

Ehnn, anyways... Ummm although I think wasting money going after pot smokers is stupid. I don't smoke pot, but I could careless if someone wants to.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:06 PM
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17. Other side of the coin
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 12:07 PM by Horse with no Name
IF they paid fair wages for this work, then they wouldn't be prison jobs--they would be jobs in the private sector which would boost our country's economy. In fact--I think the people that have their panties in a wad over illegals taking their jobs should be furious over prisoners taking them.
IF they paid the prisoner fair wages--two good things could come out of this. When they were released from prison they would have a chance to start their life again without AGAIN being put in a desperate situation OR in the case of violent offenses, then they could pay the victim compensation.
Slave wages are a BAD thing overall...the only ones that win are again...the corporations.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:26 AM
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9. Well if the "liberal" justices who struck down Raich v Ashcroft last week
Hadn't ruled that the government has the power to say the "commerce clause" means whatever the hell the government wants it to mean then this would be less of an issue. As the states would be free to pass medical marijuana laws at will, and not have the feds try to bully the people.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:07 AM
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10. [NY Times] Officials Say Drug Raids Found Clubs Were a Front
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/24/national/24marijuana.html?

SAN FRANCISCO, June 23 - Federal authorities said Thursday that they had cracked the biggest case ever involving the use of medical marijuana dispensaries in California as a cover for international drug dealing and money laundering, which they said extended to Canada and countries in Asia.

"This organization had been operating for over four years," Javier F. Peña, the special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration in San Francisco, said at a news conference. "It is now dismantled."

In court documents unsealed here, the federal authorities accused a 33-year-old San Francisco man, Vince Ming Wan, of leading a multimillion-dollar operation in the trafficking of marijuana and Ecstasy that used three medical marijuana clubs in the city as a front.

United States Attorney Kevin V. Ryan said that an arrest warrant had been issued for Mr. Wan on charges of conspiracy to distribute more than 1,000 marijuana plants, but that he remained at large. Twenty other people, all from San Francisco and its suburbs, were charged with a variety of crimes, including conspiracy to grow and traffic in marijuana plants, conspiracy to distribute Ecstasy and conspiracy to engage in money laundering.



So, are they going to go after the CIA next for their involvment in smuggling cocaine into the U.S. for decades?!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:17 AM
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11. How can the GOP Profit from illegal drugs if they become somewhat legal?
Everything the GOP does is about Power and Profit. Never forget that. They have never and I mean NEVER done anything for any other reason.....
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:53 AM
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13. More chimp thugery in the name of corporate profits
An entire legal system set up to benefit the alcohol distillers, to the detriment of "the people".

However, they're just acting like the fascist shits we all know them to be (shouldn't blame a pig for acting like a pig). I blame Clinton for not pushing decriminalization. The only reasons he didn't is because the RW would've had fun with him, like they didn't anyways, and the DLC has also been bought and paid for by corporate interests.

Gyre
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:02 PM
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16. And thus the heroic BUSH administration,
heavily financed by liquor, tobacco, and (legal) drug cartels, decides to send in its shaved-head goons to let California know that AMERICA (they) do not like the way we treat the sick. Why does this kind of remind me of the sabre-rattling at Venezuela for demanding a fair share from the oil cartels? Or for that matter, why does it remind me of the occupation of Iraq?

I hope AG-AG's enforcement effort is as successful as the latter both militarily and in terms of his administration's popular appeal.
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