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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:38 PM
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Iran's Ahmadinejad looks to export 'new Islamic revolution'
TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran's president elect Mahmood Ahmadinejad hailed his election triumph as a new Islamic revolution that could spread throughout the world, in a shift away from previously moderate post-vote rhetoric.

"Thanks to the blood of the martyrs, a new Islamic revolution has arisen and the Islamic revolution of 1384 (the current Iranian year) will, if God wills, cut off the roots of injustice in the world," the IRNA agency quoted the ultra-conservative as saying.

"The era of oppression, hegemonic regimes, tyranny and injustice has reached its end," he said, in an apparent reference to Iran's arch-foe the United States. "The wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world,"

"In one night, the martyrs strode down a path of 100 years," he added.

Ahmadinejad has previously been at pains to present a moderate face to the world, avoiding religious rhetoric at his post-election news conference in favour of pledges of friendship and compassion to all at home and abroad.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050629/wl_afp/iranpolitics_050629172450;_
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:41 PM
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1. Megalomania
is contagious. He has caught a bad case of "Bushitis."
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:21 PM
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18. But, you know what? He can sell his "megalomania" because it rests....
...solidly on a religious structure the Iranians believe in.

They also believe, like a growing number of Americans, that the invasion and occupation of Iraq is illegal and immoral.

And finally, they are fighting for their own region, their religion, their culture, their families, and their homes.

What's the US military fighting for?
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:43 PM
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Good job, George Bush.
That's our Uniter.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:08 PM
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27. don't think the Iraqi nuclear bomb of democracy was supposed to work this
way
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:43 PM
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2. Didn't work in the 70s and 80s
won't work now.

Khomeini and those in the West who thought they could export his brand of Islamic rule were clueless as to what had gone on in Iran.

The revolution was NOT exportable then or now.

Looks like Bushitis is the diagnosis. Key symptom: a medical condition known as hediusupassius.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:44 PM
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3. There's a key difference between then and now.
Now the entire world hates us and has just cause.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:46 PM
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6. true to an extent
but lord knows, in the 80s we were not necessarily flavor of the month every where.

Still won't work, though.

Islam's just way too diverse.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:30 PM
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22. Right. There's only a little over 1 billion practicing Muslims...
...in the world today, and quite a few people are beginning to see Christianity as a negative influence.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:45 PM
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10. Gotta agree.
We're providing a much healthier culture dish, these days, for the growth of Islamic fundamentalism.

I wouldn't mind an end to "oppression, hegemonic regimes, tyranny and injustice" across the world, but my fear is that our continued collective cluelessness is going to tend away from a soft landing.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:40 PM
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11. The thing is it doesn't matter what kind of petri dish we create
the social forces in Iran from the 50s-70s were quite different than they are today.

Furthermore, the revolution of the 70s was a popular revolution-- one in which the opposition did not violently overthrow the existing government, but rather one in which the existing government fell in on itself. The mullahs etc. hijacked said revolution and would not have been able to consolidate their power had it not been for Saddam's invasion in 1980.

In other words-- the variables are quite different.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:24 PM
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19. Except they can see with their own eyes that a foreign army has...
...invaded the Middle East, and that will create thousands of martyrs willing to die to remove all foreigners from the soil of Islam.

Looks like some DUers are suffering from the illness of not seeing the forest because all of those trees are in the way.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:45 PM
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4. Are we sure his last name isn't really Bush?
change a few words here and there...Bush speech.
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Charles19 Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:01 PM
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16. Speaking like Bush might make him so mad that ....
they just might say this guy was a hostage taker or something in the 80's.... oh wait....
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:26 PM
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20. No, do ya think? !?
:applause:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:46 PM
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5. Gee, that's why Saddam Hussein's Iraq fought Iran in the 1980s.
Now Americans will have to do it.

SIGN UP, freeps! Your bush-god has lit a fuse YOU get to die putting out!

RAH RAH RAH!
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:48 PM
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7. Looks like he has the same talking-points as Dubya
Their speeches use almost identical language: "tyranny" and "injustice" are used to justify political goals, continuous reminders that God is on their side, etc. It's really a sad day when the president of the United States and an Iranian theocrat both read from the same teleprompter.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:21 PM
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8. In less than 35 yrs the world will be out of oil. What will Iran do ?
Islam, as described in Bernard Lewis' 'What Went Wrong' will have plenty of time to blame the so-called revolutionaries for wasting a golden opportunity.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:18 PM
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14. Bernard Lewis
is one of the chief architects of the present-day "clash of civilization". He was an important influence on Richard Perle, Samuel Huntington and Zbigniew Brzezinski, and he's an old British spook... never underestimate the cunning and slyness of British spooks.

It was Lewis who convinced Brzezinksi of the need to create an "arch of crisis" along the southern rim of the Soviet Union, which led Brzezinski to initiate covert operations in Afghanistan, which in turn provoked the Soviets to invade, as expected. Voilà, arch of crisis. They got exactly what they wanted.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:33 PM
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23. The better question, IMHO, is what will the US do? We've certainly...
...wasted more than thirty years by not pursuing alternative energies.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:39 PM
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9. All the more fuel * needs to invade Iran
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cookiebird Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:07 PM
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12. Take a number
and get in Line. We've got enough on our plates. Try solving the poverty in Islamic nations before exporting your bs.:eyes:
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:11 PM
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13. Mandate mullah
Not only is this speech similar to Bush's speech, but this guy won in a close race like Bush stole a close race. And now, like Bush, he is acting like he has a "mandate" to be an extremist and piss everyone off.

Well, the USA wanted to be an example to the world...to bad it is a bad example.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:20 PM
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15. Aaahhh! Bush* finally gets an A+ for a good job well done!
I hope Daddy's proud of his son! He's finally a success in his own right. I'm sure Momma Bush is proud too. He should be presented with a "Medal of Horror"...A Black Star!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:14 PM
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17. Sounds like boilerplate "inspirational" talk
Not much different than Bush nattering on about the triumphant march of freedom and democracy. This just shows that the guy is a politician.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:30 PM
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21. Nope, not all politicians are warmongers ...
But both the leaders of the USA and Iran sure love the rhetoric of bravado.

I think we're scaring the hell not only out of ourselves but the world as well. :scared: :nuke:

When will calmer heads prevail?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:21 PM
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24. I interpreted the "revolution" stuff as metaphoric
Not so much violent revolution as social or religious revolution (kind of like the different uses of the terms "crusade" and "jihad"). It can be interpreted the other way too. Perhaps he was being purposely vague.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:29 PM
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25. Understood.
I respect your thoughtful analysis of their remarks.

I'm more brass tacks in my perceptions and will default to defining these two world leaders as "bat-shit crazy warmongers."

Best wishes and I fully concur with your clarification above. :-)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:03 PM
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26. Your caution is warranted
Bat-shit crazy warmongers is seldom far off the mark, these days.
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