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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:00 PM
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Army reverses series of recruitment shortfalls(exceeded recruitment goals)
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 02:01 PM by sabra
Won't disclose what the goals though, hmmm...
<<SNIP>>
http://www.wkyt.com/Global/story.asp?S=3537032

Army reverses series of recruitment shortfalls


PENTAGON After months of declining enlistment, the Army has more than met its recruitment goals for the month of June.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Richard Myers announced the turnaround during a "town hall" meeting this afternoon at the Pentagon.

Myers did not provide numbers, nor did he indicate how far above the recruitment target the enlistment number is.

Going into the month of June, the Army had failed to meet its recruitment goals for four consecutive months. Officials blame a strong economy and the continuing carnage in Iraq.

Just last night, during his speech on the situation in Iraq, President Bush urged Americans to consider joining one of the service branches during this time of war.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:01 PM
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1. Bullshit...produce the numbers
GD liars!!!! :banghead:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:05 PM
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11. June isn`t even over with yet
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 02:05 PM by lebkuchen
It took ten days into June before the Pentagon had the guts to publish its disastrous May results.

The Pentagon can lie all it wants. If the boots aren`t filled, they aren`t filled. Unless Rummy can produce a magic wand, he`s up shit creek.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:20 PM
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22. Yeah, funny how the month after they take over (and have the option to
not provide numbers), suddenly they're going from 50% recruitment to over 100% recruitment.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:37 PM
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32. Chocolate rations are UP!
And Eurasia Eastasia is going to fall any minute now! Doubleplusgood!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:51 PM
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67. They cut the requirements in half, I bet.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:43 PM
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69. That's what I was thinking too. That's why they're not announcing #'s
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:10 PM
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78. 6,157
<<SNIP>>
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_army_063005,00.html

Army recruiters enlisted 6,157 new soldiers this month, 507 more than its goal, Army officials said Wednesday

<</SNIP>>

May's goal was 6,700
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:01 PM
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2. Freaking hypocrites, we met our goal but......eom
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:01 PM
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3. Riiight. Here's the question though:
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 02:03 PM by Stand and Fight
How low did they lower their quotas and standards before they met said goals?

Secondly, part of this can be attributed to the graduating classes of 2005 enlisting for up to $40,000...
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:19 PM
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21. Plus universities hiking tuition...
TAMU announced today a 12% increase, Prairie View A&M: up 20%; University of Texas and U of Houston: up 5%. Tuition alone, before fees, is exceeding $2,000 a semester, putting it out of reach of many high school graduates.
These were all announced today, I believe.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:38 PM
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33. Exactly!
We know they've lowered their goals, so meeting reduced goals doesn't mean as much as absolute recruitment numbers. WHAT are the numbers, Dick? I'd like to see the recruitment numbers plotted over time.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:03 PM
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52. Nuts!
But you've got it!
:crazy:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:02 PM
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4. MORE RUSTICS FOR THE MEAT GRINDER
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:03 PM
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6. Hey that was quick...
... less than 24hrs after Shrub's speech.


-P
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:03 PM
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5. Let Me Guess,...
they lowered the standards and then exceeded them because a bunch of graduating high-school seniors, with few prospects, signed up?

Jay
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:03 PM
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7. Why not disclose the numbers? Must have been a puny goal. eom
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:04 PM
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8. I knew the phantom recruits would enlist sooner or later ...
how convenient that they show up to enlist just after bush's speech bombs out royally.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:04 PM
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9. I wonder if he's dizzy from all that spinning
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:04 PM
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10. Prove it.(nt)
NT
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:05 PM
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12. That was easy....
...you just fire a gun at the wall, then circle the hole-TADA-Bullseye...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:06 PM
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13. I'm dubious
June is when school is out... graduating high school seniors who've opted for the delay entry program would be heading off to basic this month....

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:07 PM
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14. Myers can't wait to retire
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:30 PM
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28. HE'LL MAKE MILLIONS FROM DYNCORP
AS A MAJOR DOMO IN THE COMPANY


CSC/ DynCorp

The world's premier rent-a-cop business runs the security show in Afghanistan, Iraq, and the US-Mexico border. They also run the coca crop-dusting business in Colombia, and occasional sex trafficking sorties in Bosnia. But what can you expect from a bunch of mercenaries?

CEO: Paul V. Lombardi
Military contracts 2004: $2.4 billion

note: CSC sold DynCorp in January 2005

LINK TO THE HOODLUM CORPORATION EXPOSE.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=18

The U.S. State Department awarded DynCorp a multimillion-dollar contract to advise the Iraqi government on setting up effective law enforcement, judicial and correctional agencies. DynCorp will arrange for up to 1,000 U.S. civilian law enforcement experts to travel to Iraq to help locals "assess threats to public order" and mentor personnel at the municipal, provincial and national levels. The company will also provide any logistical or technical support necessary for this peacekeeping project. DynCorp estimates it could recoup up to $50 million for the first year of the contract.

Already armed DynCorp employees make up the core of the police force in Bosnia. DynCorp troops protect Afghan president Hamid Karzai, while DynCorp planes and pilots fly the defoliation missions over the coca crops in Colombia. Back home in the United States Dyncorp is in charge of the border posts between the US and Mexico, many of the Pentagon's weapons-testing ranges and the entire Air Force One fleet of presidential planes and helicopters. The company also reviews security clearance applications of military and civilian personnel for the
Navy.

What's more, Kathryn Bolkovac, a U.N. International Police Force monitor filed a lawsuit in Britain in 2001 against DynCorp for firing her after she reported that Dyncorp police trainers in Bosnia were paying for prostitutes and participating in sex trafficking. Many of the Dyncorp employees were forced to resign under suspicion of illegal activity. But none were prosecuted, since they enjoy immunity from prosecution in Bosnia.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:09 PM
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15. Just like economic indicators. They revise numbers down before news
Notice lately how many of the key economic indicators have the prior month revised downward to lessen the impact of the new, lower number?

I wonder what the June goals are now compared to what they were before they were revised.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:09 PM
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16. Forgot to mention they brought back Press Gangs
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:10 PM
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17. How Orwellian. We've exceeded the government's secret goals
Kool-Aid, anyone?

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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:15 PM
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18. Gotta get these numbers.
We gotta find out what they are.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:15 PM
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19. the Army has more than met its recruitment goals


Donkey Ears and a Tail next.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:16 PM
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20. If you can't meet the old goals, define new lower goals.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:21 PM
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23. Alleluia this means they won't need the draft!!!
As long as they can get people to sign up thats ok with me!!!

the longer we don't have a draft the Better!!!

Go Army!!!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:10 PM
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39. I really wish this was more than bullshit propaganda.
I'm in the IRR and really don't feel like putting on the uniform again.

But alas, just more spin from the corrupt Bush gang. The spin and secret numbers will not fill boots in the front line units.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:22 PM
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24. I am sure after the aWol** recruitment pitch last night
they all signed up in DROVES today! :eyes:
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:26 PM
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25. they cooked the books
they were planning to include people who are merely in the delayed entry program, and this is probably what they did.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:26 PM
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26. They just lowered the goal
Prolly down to a dozen drunks they picked up at a bar.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:28 PM
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27. One of the brandes DID lower its goals, but I forget which one it was.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:31 PM
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29. btw-there were a few articles on DU a few weeks ago about these lower
ed recruitment goals.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:34 PM
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30. After decreasing the goals by 85 percent, we are happy to announce
that we met our goals.

Oh, and by the way, the chocolate ration has been increased to 25 grams.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:36 PM
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31. here is the story from june 9-army lowered goal by 1, 350



http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/09/army.recruiting.ap/
Army misses recruiting goal again

Thursday, June 9, 2005 Posted: 10:35 AM EDT (1435 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Army appears likely to fall short of its full-year recruiting goal for the first time since 1999, raising longer-term questions about a military embroiled in its first protracted wars since switching from the draft to a volunteer force 32 years ago.

Many young people and their parents have grown more wary of Army service because of the likelihood of being dispatched on combat tours to Iraq or Afghanistan, opinion polls show. U.S. troops are dying at a rate of two a day in Iraq, more than two years after President Bush declared that major combat operations had ended.

The Army says today's economy offers attractive alternatives to many high school and college graduates.

The recruiting statistics appear to bear that out. Officials said Wednesday that although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the military lowered the target by 1,350.

The Army said it lowered the May target to "adjust for changing market conditions," knowing that the difference will have to be made up in the months ahead.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:58 PM
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56. aha - 6700, on ABC news I believe they said 3610
for the goal and 3653 for the actual. Can we get that on ABC.com?
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:41 PM
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34. Probably moved the goal-line closer...
First down? You only need to get 5 yards now to move the sticks for another 4 chances at that sucker.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:43 PM
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35. This is Bush's way of backing off from the draft
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 02:46 PM by rocknation
If he thought he had a ghost of a chance to sneak through even a "special skills" draft, last night's speech killed it. But it's a moot issue now--volunteer recruiting has made a BIG comeback!!!

:headbang:
rocknation
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:03 PM
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36. If you keep moving the goalposts
you'll score a touchdown every twenty five yards.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:04 PM
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37. how many lies will we be told?
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:07 PM
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38. They won't reveal what the average signing bonus was either
It's a lot easier to meet your goals when you can hide your expenditures like that.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:25 PM
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40. Between Robot Soldiers and Clones
They have enough to meet the quota. No Draft Necessary. That is All.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:27 PM
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41. Our school districts prints out the numbers in local papers
along with the names of students. Who is going to what college. Who is going to into the work force. Who is going into the Military. Other districts in the area also do the same.

For 3 years in a row, those entering the Military has been ZERO, out of a class of approximately 600 graduating high school students.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:53 PM
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68. Out of the class of 300 at my school, only four joined this past year.
It's funny how they are the ones who always are "oh rah rah!" for Bush. It's also funny how they are all scrawny and way less than 130 or 135 pounds. They won't last 2 weeks in boot camp.

I'm going to be a senior this next year, I wonder how many will join from my graduating class.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:28 PM
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42. "Myers did not provide numbers" Kinda says it all doesn't it. nt
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:43 PM
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43. U.S. Army Recruiters Leave No Latino Youth Behind
http://www.albionmonitor.com/0503a/armyrecruitresistance.html

<snip>For instance, most students don't know that:

Two-thirds of recruits don't get any college money, according to the Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors.

Most people in the military do not have time to attend college while in the service.

To qualify for college money recruits have to pay $100 per month for a year.

The unemployment rate for veterans is three times higher than the national average.

People who sign up with the Delayed Entry Program are told they can't change their minds, but getting out is as simple as writing a letter.

The enlistment contract is for eight years.

There are other ways to finance college, like federal financial aid, private scholarships, going to community college or joining AmeriCorps.

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:43 PM
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44. They lowered the targets...then beat them
Mark my words.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:10 PM
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54. Yep, they lowered the target for May and missed...
probably lowered it again for June...Creative accounting, should be working for Enron.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:46 PM
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45. Good! They can leave my son alone.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:48 PM
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46. Is 'Aim High' still the recruiting catch phrase for the U.S. Air Force?
Seems that maybe General Meyers may be thinking "Aim Low" you'll succeed more easily. I would sure like to see the figures though!:shrug:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:54 PM
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47. This link has numbers...
The Army's goal for its active-duty force June was 5,650 recruits; so far, more than 6,150 signed up, the officials said, citing preliminary statistics from recruiting stations.

The Army Reserve hoped to sign up 3,610; it has barely exceeded that goal, the officials said.

There were no figures available for the Army National Guard, which is also well behind its annual goal.

The active-duty Army is still 7,800 recruits behind its year-to-date goal. The service hoped to recruit 80,000 into its ranks between Oct. 1, 2004, and this Sept. 30.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5107474,00.html

Don't know if these are severely reduced goals or what....
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:36 PM
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51. Wondering....
If the numbers include those re-enlisting and those "straight off the block" civilians combined?
Top officials also say that Army retention is at or exceeding goals, suggesting that those who have been to Iraq or Afghanistan want to stay in the military to finish the job there.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5107474,00.html
...And how those re-enlisting are really enlisting, or just not allowed to leave "due to national emergency?" Stop-loss variety.
'Cause that might mean they need fewer new guys - if the veterans aren't going anywhere.
"Yeah - these vets ain't leaving the Army, we got them chained to their humvees & trucks; best handcuffs halliburton could buy - not goin' anywhere 'til we says so!"


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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:22 PM
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48. I don't believe that
They lied about the number of terrorist attacks also, until they were caught.

Maybe they're talking about Mercenaries, weren't they supposed to hire 20,000 from Angola?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:32 PM
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49. Right. How low did they have to establish their new goals?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:34 PM
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50. THERE IS NOW HOPE FOR ANYONE WITH AN IQ OF 70 OR LESS
THEY NEED TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE OF THEIR LEFT FOOT FROM THEIR RIGHT.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:10 PM
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53. I'd like to see the goals and the recruiting figures
I'd also like to see them for June 2004.

June is the month for high school graduation. One should expect it to be a good month for recruiting.

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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:16 PM
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55. I really think this number is Bull Shit... They probably rig the numbers
to make sound good... Just my inside feeling.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:02 PM
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57. new recruitment goal = 0...
therefore, all recruitment exceeds the 'goal'
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:05 PM
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58. OUr new goals are to avoid negative integers this month
if we can do that....we've hit our goal. YEEEHAAWWW! let's throw a party!
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:05 PM
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59. here a lie there a lie everywhere a lie
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:11 PM
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60. according to ArmyTimes, so has Army Reserves
Pentagon officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the Army has not formally announced its numbers, said the Army Reserve also met its recruiting goal in June.

The Army’s goal for its active-duty force June was 5,650 recruits; so far, more than 6,150 signed up, the officials said, citing preliminary statistics from recruiting stations.

The Army Reserve hoped to sign up 3,610; it has barely exceeded that goal, the officials said.

There were no figures available for the Army National Guard, which is also well behind its annual goal.

The active-duty Army is still 7,800 recruits behind its year-to-date goal. The service hoped to recruit 80,000 into its ranks between Oct. 1, 2004, and this Sept. 30.

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-945789.php
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:20 PM
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61. Yeah, after changing the targets
Then, he won't give numbers anyway, of goals or recruitment. More neo-con lying, but technically telling the truth.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:46 PM
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62. how'd they do it?
are they collecting homeless crackheads off the street?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:19 PM
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63. Last I heard, they were goint to inflate the numbers...
They were going to start counting them before they get there by including the delayed enlistment numbers.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:21 PM
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64. 'strong economy'
:wtf:
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:29 PM
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65. I do not believe this and never will. Unless all of the
wingnut kids and freepers are joining up.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:45 PM
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66. How many of the "June recruits" actually report for duty in July? Will
they count the same recruit twice then?
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:51 PM
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70. BS all the way !!!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:08 AM
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71. Liar, liar, pants on fire!
:P


Show me the numbers!
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:54 AM
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72. the least honest regime in american history?????
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/6/30/72514/6238
Daily Kos: Hollow Army: Recruitment follies
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:58 AM
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73. Wow, Rove's script is VERY comprehensive
There were many calls for all the young chickenhawks to put their asses where their mouths are, and presto! all of a sudden we don't need any more soldiers.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:06 AM
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74. They lowered their goal - I read that a few weeks ago n/t
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:44 AM
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75. They're just trying to stem the "Nobody else is enlisting so I'm not
enlisting," landslide. What they don't know is people are really saying, "I'm not going to fight this bullshit war." PR won't fix this problem.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:27 PM
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76. What is the next move, saying the war was called off because of.......
lack of interest. These paid government liars never cease to amaze with all their fantasies :crazy:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 12:52 PM
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77. It must be the banner ad they put on FR.com that put 'em over the top.
That, and the surge of Young Repubs leaving business school to enlist.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:24 PM
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79. And here's why that number is so misleading....read this link....

Army Recruiting Up in June
<http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_army_063005,00.html>

QUOTES:

Through June 27, the Army had recruited 47,121 new soldiers in 2005. That's more than 7,800 below the number it needed to be on track to meet its goal for the fiscal year, which ends Sept.30.

The Army's success in June can be partly attributed to modest expectations. The June 2005 goal was more than 1,000 recruits lower than the June 2004 goal.


...snip...

The June numbers, while an improvement over the four previous months, also were not anywhere near the 8,086 recruits the Army brought in during January. That's despite offering enlistments as short as 15 months and bonuses as high as $20,000 for some who join.

June's recruiting numbers look good if people don't realize the Army is still going to miss its annual goal, said Loren Thompson, a military analyst at the Lexington Institute in Arlington, Va.



Hey...if you can't meet your numbers, lower the goal and pretend that you did!



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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:26 PM
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80. EXACTLY! They finally lowered the goal enough that they could meet it.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:44 PM
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81. related: Army may have trouble getting recruits
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/politics/12025996.htm

WASHINGTON - The Army, already likely to miss its recruiting goal this year, may have even more trouble filling its ranks next year, the service's chief of staff said Thursday.

"We've got enormous challenges," Gen. Peter Schoomaker told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

In written testimony, he said the Army's goal of 80,000 recruits this year "is at serious risk," and recruiting woes will stretch "well into the future." Next year, he wrote, "may be the toughest recruiting environment ever."

Schoomaker's testimony came a day after officials said the Army met its recruiting goal for June after four months of shortfalls.

Despite that progress, the active-duty Army is still 7,800 recruits behind its year-to-date goal. The service hoped to recruit 80,000 into its ranks between Oct. 1, 2004, and this Sept. 30.

...more...

They're not going to meet their goals. It's all part of the lie - part and parcel from the cloth this administration sews.
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