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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:11 PM
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WP: Cheney Goes on Offensive Over Iraq
Unyielding Speech Is Designed to Regain Support

By Dana Milbank and Walter Pincus


Saturday, October 11, 2003; Page A01

Vice President Cheney capped a White House effort to regain its equilibrium over the Iraq occupation by delivering a blistering rebuttal yesterday to critics of the administration's foreign policy and arguing that a consensus-based foreign policy is obsolete.

(snip)

The vice president's speech had harsh words for Bush's critics. He portrayed those who objected to the president's "preemption" policy as opening the United States to attack. Bush "will not permit gathering threats to become certain tragedies," Cheney said, adding that "weakness and drift and vacillation in the face of danger invite attacks."

Still, Cheney's stout defense of preemption struck a different tone even from other top Bush officials. In a speech last month, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said Bush's strategy is much more than preemption. "Above all, the president's strategy is a strategy of partnerships," he said. "It strongly affirms the vital role of the partnerships that we have throughout the world -- our partnerships with NATO, our partnership with the United Nations and with so many other precious alliances that we have created over the last 50 years."

Cheney, predicting that "historians will look back on our time and pay tribute to our 43rd president," told his audience of a videotape that showed Hussein allowing two Doberman pinschers to eat a general alive. "Those who declined to support the liberation of Iraq would not deny the evil of Saddam Hussein's regime," he said. "They must concede, however, that had their own advice been followed, that regime would rule Iraq today."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7648-2003Oct10.html
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:15 PM
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1. Historians will look back on our time...
and shake their collective heads over WHAT MURDEROUS, THIEVING, ARROGANT, CORRUPT, DICKHEADS YOU ALL WERE!!!!!

I'm sorry guys, I'm just really having a temper tantrum tonight.
I just can't stand it anymore.
The world hates us and it is all because of FUCKUPS LIKE YOU DICK CHENEY!!!!!
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Eat_The_Rich Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:42 PM
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8. Sorry
but in the future, when the planet is a smoldering hulk, because of the petty vendictivness of the human race, there will not be any historians to document shit.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:46 PM
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9. Right, the kind of petty vindictiveness
that caused the Bush Admin to out an undercover CIA agent????

Yeah, we are being led to the slaughter by these hateful, VINDICTIVE, evil, death-worshipping SACKS OF SHIT!!!!
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:18 PM
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2. Yes, TWO dobermans EATING a General alive !....for the Pentagon
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 10:25 PM by amen1234
Generals....just so they remember that this horrible fate could happen to them....

actual full transcript here...it's truly hard to believe some of this, but it appears to be quite TRUE !!! cheney actually came up with these wild stories to instill FEAR in Americans, in Pentagon Generals, and the whole wide world...must wonder if he too, like rush limbaugh, is actually talking through a drug stupor...

cheney transcript....insane....disconnected from reality, hallucinations....
http://www.heritage.org/Research/MiddleEast/hl800.cfm

on edit: interesting that these horrible videos are only reported as having been seen by others....the alternative world as seen by cheney...and he looks to be in failing health...



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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:23 PM
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3. Milbank and Pincus absolutely take the dick apart lie by lie.
Read the article, folks. Every insanely spun allegation is deconstructed to a fare-thee-well.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:24 PM
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4. They see conspiracies everywhere
Fear-riddled, paranoid nuts with the largest arsenal on Earth.

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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:26 PM
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5. This is exactly why the Democratic Congressfolk that voted for...
the authorization of this war should start condemning it. They are screwing our party with this "the war was the right thing" approach.

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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:31 PM
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6. I can't believe Murkin idiots didn't see the lies back in 99 when Cheney
lied about his residence. The sonofabitch lived in TEXAS and wasn't elegible to run as VP but phonied up an address in Wyoming to make it "legal."

And now I have to stop because I'm dangerously close to saying what I really want to do to this prick.
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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:20 PM
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14. oh go ahead and say it
I did...on aol boards ...several times....months ago...I was prepared for the fucks to take me away. They have yet to come get me. I REALLY don't know why they haven't....Oh sure, I am in the Total Information Awareness database, but that is a fucking honor.
I guess it has to do with making sure you use a creative writing technique that gives you LOTS of slither room. I made it long enough so that there were large portions that a jury would say "oh he's obviously using parody and not being literal", and then just a hint of what I "might" mean. Case in point: this post. Find something in here the jackbooted prosecutors could use... What am I even referring to? I haven't said anything. In other words say it, but don't say it. Do not be indirect, that could still bite you. Just be rambling, skirting, coy, and double-meaning, and you'll be fine.
If you don't think you can be creative enough, or are prone to being stressed out, or feel having your name with an asterisk next to it over at TIA is not something you can deal with, then I would not recommend it. Cause you never know.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:35 AM
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19. This should be avoided
It is against DU policy & there is a remote possibility somebody might really take you to task.

Put this all into perspective, for Cheney this is a big act. He goes home at night, has dinner and forgets all about it. He isn't worth the trouble.

Put your energy into doing something positive. Volunteer to do some difficult work that needs to be done in your community. The truth will prevail. Cheney is doing himself in.

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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:37 PM
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7. How will speaking to the Heritage Foundation rebuild
public support? I don't understand that.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:58 PM
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10. pic showing Heritage Foundation audience.....hardly looks like
the "public" to me...scary really....cheney likely BELIEVES that this is what America looks like.....

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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:05 PM
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12. The Heritage Foundation is VERY scary
These people are beyond self-righteous and are in-your-face with their dagma. It's "My way or the highway" for them. Scaife has given this group LOTS of money.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:03 AM
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15. upcoming events at Heritage Foundation....free lunch included...
Edited on Sat Oct-11-03 12:15 AM by amen1234
local DUers could have lots of fun here...open to the public, wear your best suit to get in the door...think code pink or other serious people...imagine yourself included on all those press cameras....all they can do it throw you out...register on their web page and enjoy...

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/index.cfm



code pink disrupting rumsfeld's speech at the National Press Club
September 10, 2003....they were removed by rumsfeld's guards, banned from the Press Club, but NOT arrested....

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0910-12.htm
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:18 AM
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17. The well-dressed sheep and their scowling shepherd
How many of them want to shoot Britney Spears, I wonder?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:02 PM
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11. You mean Cheney goes "offensive" over Iraq.
What a creep! :puke:
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:06 PM
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13. This is LBN?
Cheney has been offensive to me for almost 3 years.

Ba - da - bom.

Thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:13 AM
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16. Someone please call Dick and tell him it worked-
I'M OFFENDED!!!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 12:34 AM
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18. Play that video of us firebombing Iraqi soldiers one more time...
And then explain how one general x 30,000 = our contribution to evil.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 12:12 AM
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20. right, Casual.
They ALL go home after a hard day's work and enjoy themselves. I have a copy of Architectural Digest, and Dick and Mrs. Cheney are on the cover of the magazine.

Inside, we get treated to Dick's BEAUTIFUL designer home. We get to meet his designer, who had a "tough job" pulling everything together to make a "livable but artistic environment".

Dick, who stands by, agrees. He really does live in a beautiful home. It cost several million, courtesy of Helliburton Oil, and the rest of us, of course.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:39 AM
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21. So Cheney thinks the UN veto power is bad?
Who do you think is going to be the next Security Council member to use the veto? Could it possibly be the USA, on the vote to condemn the West Bank wall on Tuesday?
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