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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:29 PM
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US official sees Zarqawi spectre in London attacks
Here we go...

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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08408080.htm

US official sees Zarqawi spectre in London attacks
08 Jul 2005 19:22:58 GMT

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, July 8 (Reuters) - The series of bombings in London highlight U.S. concerns about a "two-way pipeline" moving Islamic militants between Europe and al Qaeda chief Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's insurgent network in Iraq, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official said on Friday.

The bombings that killed more than 50 people and wounded 700 in London's deadliest peacetime attack bore all the hallmarks of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, which was responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, on New York and Washington, authorities say.

U.S. counterterrorism experts believe European-born militants recruited by Zarqawi for Iraq's insurgency could be behind the bombings.

"We are concerned about the possible involvement of Zarqawi's network," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the investigation in London.

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:31 PM
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1.  a senior U.S. counterterrorism official
An *unnamed* senior us counterterrorism official..

Any guesses who? Negroponte?

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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:32 PM
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2. Anyone notice that
they don't like the O(BL) word anymore? They are much more fond of names like Zarqawi.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:32 PM
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3. Lies lies, everywhere lies.
These people are describing a fairy tale.
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:33 PM
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4. Don't you love it! " could be behind the bombings"
"said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity"

Is that the same as the FauxNews "Some people say"??
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:42 PM
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36. Something beyond doubt: The Judith Miller School of Reporting Technique
Even though the headmistress is in the clink, her students carry on. Lots of high unnamed officials and low journalistic standards.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:33 PM
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5. I'm concerned about the possible involvement of the BFEE network
And my opinion is just as valid as this unnamed US official.

Isn't just a bit dangerous to assign blame with absolutely no proof?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:52 PM
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18. Not for the b*sh CRIME FAMILY
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:54 PM
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21. This thread may interest you
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:04 PM
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38. Worked on 9-11.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:35 PM
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6. when you see "administration official"
read "propaganda"

anonymous means unaccountable.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:37 PM
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7. OF COURSE THEY DO...how else could they make the false causal
chain....

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi' is purportedly (without any proof whatsoever) in Iraq
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi' is purportedly (without any proof whatsoever) in Iran
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi' is purportedly (without any proof whatsoever) involved in the london Bombings


Therefore: we must bomb IRAN!
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:41 PM
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8. The seed has been planted
Whether it's true or not... the story that there "may" be a connection will be enough for the wingnuts to say that's why we need to "stay the course in Iraq"

If Iraq hadn't happened, we would most definitely have OBL and Zarqawi would never been named as a danger (he really isn't...just someone the bush regime can hang their hat on).

While Bush didn't directly bomb London, I truly believe that it wouldn't have happened if Iraq was left alone.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:53 PM
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20. Bingo. They plan to use this *maybe connection* to justify Iraq war
Every bit of logic and rational thought goes out the window with these guys, and the sheeple eat it up.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:42 PM
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9. Thread started .......
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lwin Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:49 PM
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15. He gets around pretty good for a one-legged dead guy...
We're lucky he's not dragging around a dialysis machine like OBL, or he'd REALLY be fast. :rofl:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:52 PM
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19. one legged and shot too .....
..... man if he was healthy he would rule the world .....
:rofl:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:36 PM
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39. And he still made an escape by jumping out of a moving car.
That's a super-villain.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:06 PM
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22. Dahr Jamail went looking for him...
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:43 PM
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10. What a batch of crap!
..."highlight U.S. concerns about..."

"...bore all the hallmarks of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network...authorities say..."

"...U.S. counterterrorism experts believe..."

"...the possible involvement of Zarqawi's network..."


Nothing like getting ALL the facts before opening your mouth, eh???

I am sure that everyone watching FAUX News knows FOR CERTAIN now...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:44 PM
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11. Boy, he really gets around, from now on he will be known as Dr. Evil...
He will now take responsibility for everything bad in the world. From stubbed toes and paper cuts to all sorts of terrorist acts.

So next time you slam your finger in the door, just exclaim, "Damn that Dr. EviL!!"

Or if you get into a car wreck, "Dr. Evil is everywhere! I can't even drive safely anymore!"

So the next time see or hear about another terrorist attack, you can beat the gov't* to the punch, "it's Dr. Evil!!" Way to help out the administration*, huh?

Colossal failure*
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:17 PM
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30. Mythical figures: Chemical Ali; Dr. Anthrax; Ms. Germ
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:44 PM
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12. Okay then if they knew about this "pipeline" why didnt' they do anything?
It only took them a day to reveal this but yet they didn't do anything about it?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:45 PM
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13. Oh for the love of god! nt
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:47 PM
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14. I heard this on the radio this morning from the CNN Pentagon correspondent
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:50 PM
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16. If it was Zarqawi
It would prove the Iraq War has made the world less safe.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:51 PM
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17. Not bad for a dead man!!!
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:15 PM
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23. "two-way pipeline"

Incredible how they just need to make up intelligence related expressions that sounds smart to make their claim more credible.

:eyes:

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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:19 PM
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24. But, I thought that's why we are fighting them THERE? You mean
they might come here? OMG!

:freak:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:24 PM
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25. This Zarqawi fellow is like the Shadow. He is everywhere n/t
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sidpleasant Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:44 PM
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26. And like the Shadow, Zarqawi has the power to cloud men's minds!
He's certainly clouded Bush's, Cheney's, Rice's, and Rumsfeld's little brains.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 03:46 PM
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27. Is there any independent verification of this?
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 03:46 PM by Jack Rabbit
We'd be foolish to take the regime's word for it.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:05 PM
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28. nice try, BushCo--but don't you think you've spread enough lies
for many many lifetimes?

Let the grownups investigate before you mislead us all into another war.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:11 PM
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29. 9-11/Iraq; 9-11/Iraq; 9-11/Iraq; 9-11/Iraq; 9-11/Iraq
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:23 PM
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31. Zarqawi has a touching and naive faith in western democracy
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 04:33 PM by fedsron2us
if he thinks killing office clerks and assorted tourists on the London tube is going to change the policies of people like Bush and Blair. He would have to take out people far higher up the food chain to achieve that result. Over twenty years ago the IRA came very near to blowing up the entire British government yet this terrorist mastermind somehow never seems to get close to achieving a similar coup. It does make you wonder.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:27 PM
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32. This non-expert suspects four or five unconnected Londoners
We'll see who turns out right.

More unnecessarily anonymous sources, by the way: "...because of the investigation in London." What the fuck does that mean. Supreme non sequitor.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:46 PM
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33. ......and.....and everyone is much safer these days without
Saddam Hussein in power?

junior & Blair both said the world is much safer now that Saddam has been taken out. Actually that means Halliburton & the Carlyle Group are wealthier, 'eh?
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:03 PM
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34. Has there been any website claim by or on behalf of Zarqawi?
Because his group have apparently not been tardy in publishing their claims for previous activities.

I've not heard of any such claim (so far).
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:19 PM
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35. The it is really Bush's fault.
Saddam Hussein seemed to have things under control, as far as extremists in Iraq went. The al-Zarqawi group only became notorious after the invasion and consequent anarchy in Iraq. This bears all the hallmarks of a Bush caused catastrophe.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:53 PM
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37. He probably sees Zaqawi specter in his morning cornflakes
"Honey, lock the door, don't want Zarqawi getting in"
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:49 PM
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40. "Zarqawi: Everywhere and Nowhere"


"Zarqawi: Everywhere and Nowhere"
7-7-5, Asian Times

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GG07Ak02.html

"In the end, the vast mass of reportage on Zarqawi amounts to countless statements based on anonymous sources hardly less shadowy - to ordinary readers - than him. He exists, then, in a kind of eternal netherworld of reportage, rumor and attribution. It could almost be said that never has a figure been more regularly written about based on less hard information."



A great read on ole MC Al-Z..
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