NY Times Explores Question: Did Its Reporter Give Plame Name to Rove? (E&P

NY Times' Explores Question: Did Its Reporter Give Plame Name to Rove?
By Editor & Publisher Staff
Published: July 16, 2005 12:20 AM ET

" An article in Saturday's New York Times by Adam Liptak, who has long covered the Plame case, covers wide ground in considering the newly-emerging focus on whether or not journalists passed the CIA officer's name to government officials instead of the (presumed) other way around.
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"In court papers filed earlier this month urging that Miller be jailed, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said that "the source in this case has waived confidentiality in writing." This fits Rove, as well, but also fits Liddy and maybe others.

"George Freeman, an assistant general counsel of The New York Times Company, re-affirmed that Miller would not say who that source was. "She has never received," Freeman told Liptak, "what she considers an unambiguous, unequivocal and uncoerced waiver from anyone with whom she may have spoken."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000980335

Is this a cry for help from Judy??

They have reached a new low, eating their own. Reporters today are like thea actors were in the '50's turning each other in to save their crappy movie cariers.

As Orson Welles said of the turn-coats during the Hollywood Red Scare:

"In Europe and elsewhere, people turn their friends in to the government to save their lifes; in Hollywood, they do it to save their swimming polls."

Congratulations LAT, you have surpassed the Washington Post as the most repulsive major metro newspaper in America. The WaPost will be back but , be proud, it's all yours today.

What does the LA Times have to do with this article? Am I missing something here?

Could say this for the NYC, LAT, WPost, etc. everyone except the Toledo Blade.

Given his job, he must have known PLame's job and that he was committing a crime. Miller is scared to testify, because if she does so, she condemns Libby, and the Neo-cons wont like that. And we all know what the Neo-cons do to people they dont like. If she keeps her mouth shut, they will reward her.

despite an earlier quote (that was taken a bit out of context)... but now it sounds like Judy's lawyer is making a big point - that her source has not released her, despiting having signed a general waiver. (As in, please step up and release Judy from jail!)

I just read in another article that supposedly Cooper's lawyer advised him against talking to Rove to see if he could be released from confidentiality, because Cooper's lawyer feared the conversation itself could be construed as obstruction of justice.

There do seem to be a lot of indications pointing at Libby.

says two sources confirmed it was Liddy in Miller's case

Of course, it could also be Cheney or Rice, but it's doubtful that either would contact press directly. There's also the rumblings that Fleischer is part of the deal, but he would not have the clearance to know that Plame was a NOC.

It almost has to be Libby or Hadley.

If Fitzgerald has connected this to WHIG, that would connect Plame affair directly to Iraq and to the DSM. Of course, this undoubtedly has tentacles all over the place, as Randi Rhodes has speculated.

If you haven't caught Randi Rhodes the last two days, you need to snag one of the shows and give a listen. She's done extraordinarily good researched on this. She impressed the hell out of Conyers this afternoon.

to access the top secret information? I thought there were very very few who did.

And, is the use of the name "Plame" (old name, she's been Wilson for awhile) a clue that points to Libby because he used to work for the Dept. of Defense and might have learned the name then?

Libby would have had a high clearance. But whether that put him on the list to know NOC IDs, who knows. Certainly Cheney would have that knowledge available.

The same relationship would exist between Hadley (Rice's deputy) and Rice.

So either of these connections would be appropriate investigative paths for Fitzgerald.

There's always the semi-tin-foil-hat scenerio that Cheney deliberately leaked this to Libby with instructions to "ratfuck Wilson". Or, Rice told Hadley the same, you take your pick. This is entirely possible but we have no way of knowing it right now. This smells an awful lot like a deliberate action. Somebody in WHIG, or connected to WHIG (Cheney or Rice), intended to fuck with Wilson. One only hopes that Fitzgerald gets to the bottom.

I still like Randi Rhodes' scenerio that it was done to crash down Plame's network which was getting too damned close to the Bush/Saudi connection. No proof for that either.

and impacts on Plame's network seems like advanced, extra credit for Fitzgerald. Seems like he's got his hands full with the tip of the iceberg!

However, this is precisely the type of thing that a Senatorial committee can investigate. Remember the Senate Watergate Hearings? They went into all sorts of other related issues. Likewise, the House Judiciary Hearings.

So having this out there is important. On yesterday's Rhodes Show, Conyers said that they needed more hearings on these matters. So be it. Let the hearings happen. The Repugs can't say, "No!" forever. Eventually, they'll lose their seats for saying, "No!"

It's fun being a Dem again.

White House Iraq Group
Set up by Andrew Card

Condi Rice
Stephen J Hadley (deputy to Rice)
I. Lewis Libby (Cheney chief of staff)
Karl Rove (Bush deputy chief of staff)
Nicholas E. Calio (legislative liason)
Karen Hughes (communications strategist)
Mary Matalin (communications strategist)
James R. Wilkinson (communications strategist)


WHIG seems to be the focus of the investigation.

on edit: oops. Forgot Calio.

that put Ari in the group. He very well may have been a member. He is certainly wrapped-up in what they were doing. With Hughes, Matalin, and Wilkinson, I would think Ari would be there, too.

This one does...

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/321009.shtml

JW: I wrote in my book that there was a conspiracy in the white house to find out everything they could about me and then use it against me. I think the logical place to look for the conspiracy is in the White House Iraq group (WHIG) which included Rove, Scooter Libby, Karen Hughes, Ari Fleischer and others. I don?t know who among them might have been the leaker or authorized the leak.

I'll start putting Ari in there, too.

He certainly fits there alongside Hughes, Matalin, and Wilkinson.

I'm trying to understand this, but I don't.

not that anyone was going to answer me anyway, boo hoo.

were requested to sign legal waivers for the investigation, stating that they would cooperate fully.. etc. I guess part of it included the "release" of reporters ... like a green light, so that reporters would not have to protect them and could speak freely.

Apparently none of the reporters involved, take the waivers seriously.. so I guess the waivers were pointless.

(I'm not sure if I'm explaining it correctly or coherently! Sorry, I tried...)

Be interesting to send Psycho Sleeze back to jail, but I haven't heard of G Gordon being involved.

I don't think it's a cry for help from Judy. I think it's a cry for attention. "Look at me, I'm such a good martyr that I'll die for the cause even though the cause doesn't want me to."

Rove, through his lawyer, gave a general release for any and all reporters to come forward, but Miller wouldn't because the release was too broad...not specific to her.

This 2004 CNN story sort of explains it:

"FBI agents investigating the leak of the name of a CIA operative are asking senior Bush administration officials to waive confidentiality agreements they have with reporters, government sources said Friday."

"The aim is to be able to force reporters who may have received information about the CIA operative to talk to investigators. However, reporters usually pledge to protect their sources no matter whether officials sign a confidentiality waiver."

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"Time magazine reporter Viveca Novak thinks it's pretty clear that Bush administration officials can't refuse to sign the document without being seen as uncooperative. She also said that gathering the releases appears to be a step toward subpoenaing reporters before a grand jury.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/02/cia.leak.probe/

It is quite the coincidinky that there should be a Liddy involved in Watergate and a Libby (possibly) involved with Treasongate.

If it's someone from outside the neocon circle that is working against the interests of the U.S., and if she told Novak, then she will be labeled a traitor. That's the end of her life as she knows it, professionally at least.

I don't know what all her smiling was about as she was being carted off to serve time. Kind of looked like the cat that ate the canary. Or maybe it was the canary that had barely escaped the cat. :shrug:

Like, If I don't smile, the photographer will catch me crying for my mommy!

I thought her smile looked like a front for some personal pain. Either that or laughing at
Fitzgerald! I hope she's hurting a little in her jail cell.

I certainly hope that when BushCo are on trial for treason, no one forgets the MSM owners and pundits on the dock!

"That's the ticket!" (I'm reminded of an old SNL skit!) Gotta stop the spinning before I hurl!

All those who are crying about her awful Club Fed sentence and Freedom of the Press should seriously consider that just maybe she is not protecting a source but only herself. If Libby told her about V.Plame and then she told Novak this would be a different scenrio wouldn't it?

goes beyond protecting a source. Miller may well have been a player in the leak.

She can always get a job with the Jerusalem Post after she gets out of jail!

If she gave the info to Rove, then why would she be protecting him as a source? Wouldn't she be the source?

I think Administration officials dug up the info on Plame and ran it by Rove. He said "Run with it," so they outed Plame, not realizing they were blowing the cover of an undercover CIA operative. Then Novak went back to Rove as a second source for confirmation and Rove confirmed -- not just to Novak, but probably to others.

In other words, they mounted a typical Rove smear attack, and screwed America through negligence and incompetence with classified situations.