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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:08 AM
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Police Debate if London Plotters Were Suicide Bombers, or Dupes
Police Debate if London Plotters Were Suicide Bombers, or Dupes
By ELAINE SCIOLINO and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Published: July 27, 2005
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/27/international/europe/27suicide.html?ei=5094&en=9d7dbf0225525aae&hp=&ex=1122523200&adxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1122444145-FnU6akR7TaJ2ABc6rsH7pw


" in recent days, some police officials are increasingly considering the possibility that the men did not plan to commit suicide and were duped into dying.

Investigators raising doubts about the suicide assumption have cited evidence to support this theory. Each of the four men who died in the July 7 attacks purchased round-trip railway tickets from Luton to London. Germaine Lindsay's rented car left in Luton had a seven-day parking sticker on the dashboard.

A large quantity of explosives were stored in the trunk of that car, perhaps for another attack. Another bomber had just spent a large sum to repair his car. The men carried driver's licenses and other ID cards with them to their deaths, unusual for suicide bombers.

In addition, none left behind a note, videotape or Internet trail as suicide bombers have done in the past. And the bombers' families were baffled by what seemed to be their decisions to kill themselves.

While some of these clues could be seen as the work of men intent on covering their trail, some investigators increasingly believe that the men may have been conned into carrying the bombs onto the trains and leaving them, thinking they were going to explode minutes later."
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:50 AM
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1. Yeah, and what about the 9/11 "perps"?
Let's look at ALL of it.
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:53 AM
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2. Very interesting article!


Kick!

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:51 PM
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3. I found it interesting too
I don't know why so few others do.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:54 PM
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4. Dead men tell no tales. nt
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:16 PM
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5. well they aren't all dead
as the article points out
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:06 PM
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7. Yeah, but if they were, they would tell no tales. nt
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:22 PM
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6. It's a very interesting theory, and it might make it harder for them
to recruit in the future.

Perhaps good Muslim boys living in comfort in England aren't quite
as eager to die as their brothers living in the real horrors of
Baghdad or Palestine.

Makes sense to me.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 12:32 AM
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8. funny cause that theory occurred to me after the first bombings
I'm not sure how they can prove such a thing forensically, but perhaps testimony from the second set of bombers will shed light on their intentions. This second group is not, however, British born. Many Westerners find it inconceivable that someone born and raised in the Western world would become a suicide bomber, but I heard an Israeli security specialist on Charlie Rose mention an Irish pregnant woman who had been a suicide bomber. He gave it as an example of why ethnic profiling is not a smart way of screening suspects, as opposed to profiling based on behavior, gait, etc....
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:29 AM
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9. A pregnant suicide bomber!
That's really horrible - she'd have to be seriously unbalanced.
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