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Sam_Lowry Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:43 PM
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Senate overwhelmingly approves energy bill
From CNN:

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- After years of stalemate, Congress on Friday sent President Bush a national energy plan touted by supporters as providing a diverse mix of fuels, new jobs, cleaner burning coal and the next generation of nuclear reactors.

The bill now ready for President Bush's signature won't stem high energy prices that have been viewed as a growing political concern, both in Congress and at the White House.

The Senate approved the $12.3 billion legislation 74-26, though some Democrats said they voted for the measure reluctantly because of its cost and its tepid response to reducing the country's consumption of oil -- now more than 20 million barrels a day, more than half imported.



*sigh* Maybe you should vote "NO" once in a while DINOs!
:puke:
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:44 PM
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1. who were the dems that bankrolled Halliburton here?
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Sam_Lowry Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:48 PM
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4. No Roll call yet. Will advise when up
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:54 PM
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25. It's not an "Energy Bill", it's a "Corporate Theft and Destruction" bill.
Corporations will still more tax dollars and federal lands at low price and will destroy the environment even more than they are currently.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:46 PM
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2. spineless idiots....
At least they got the ANWR drilling and MTBE shield out of it. But god knows, in these times of absolutely RECORD oil company profits, Big Petro would be at death's door without those tax incentives....
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:46 PM
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3. why, why, why
R we out here, bustin' our asses trying 2 save what's left of our country and these assholes R hell-bent on giving it away?
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:51 PM
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5. Democratic party needs to absolutely clean house
How we will accomplish this I do not know.
From the looks of things it may already be way too late.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:35 PM
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9. Work like hell for the people who really work for us.To hell with the rest
of the turncoats.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:29 PM
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11. I agree. I am going to work like hell to get rid of them.
From now on, I have no party, just politicians with whom I agree.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:36 PM
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23. that's why i went green.
screw the dems and their pandering republican lite message. the environment didn't even make it onto their platform. after a lifetime spent as a yellow-dog democrat it still hurts, but they're almost as much a party of corporate schills as the GOPosse.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:54 PM
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6. well, I know they're all not THAT stupid . . . so that means . . .
they're all bought and paid for . . . representing their corporate sponsors and their own personal greed instead of the American people (i.e. you and me!) . . .

where does it end? . . . when will Congress extract itself from the corporate teat and actually do what they were elected to do? . . . probably only when we vote them all out and replace them with people who actually care about this country and the planet more than their narrow self-interest . . .

Democrats who voted for this bill, for the bankruptcy bill, and/or for the war in Iraq will NEVER get my vote! . . . not for re-election, not for higher office, not even in online polls . . . they're dead to me . . .
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:36 PM
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17. Dont' forget to add CAFTA to you list.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:06 AM
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26. right you are . . . n/t
.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:04 PM
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7. this is what an energy plan SHOULD be
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:14 PM
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8. Link for vote?
I wrote. I called. I hope they listened. You hear that Kohl? You're up next year buddy and things haven't been looking so good so far for you, what with Tommy Thompson back in the state and all.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:00 PM
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21. No votes, Herb is not on the list
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 08:02 PM by Viking12
but Russ is :toast:

Votes appear to be based on state interests, FL no on offshore drilling, NE & SW not much to gain, etc...

Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sununu (R-NH)
Wyden (D-OR)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:37 PM
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10. $12.3 billion is chump change
Compared to the money being stolen by the BFEE in Iraq.
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Sam_Lowry Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:35 PM
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13. Here's a chump who'd love that change! n/t
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:06 PM
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22. This is in ADDITION
to the incredible subsidies that the oil, gas and coal industry already get from the govt.

This bill also DECREASES funds available for conservation and alternative energy...

It's what we'd expect from a bill written in Cheney's office by the grand polluters of our world...
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Sam_Lowry Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:26 PM
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12. Here's the Roll
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 04:29 PM by Sam_Lowry
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00213

Obama and Durbin both YES??????? Hoping for the ethanol re-elect no doubt. grrr :banghead:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:41 PM
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14. Harkin too
Geeeeesh.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:36 PM
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16. Probaby ethanol support. something for everybody.
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Mr. Peanut Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:15 AM
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27. Bayh, Mikulski, Rockefeller also, sadly, YEAS
Was glad to know that Clinton, Feinstein, and Kerry were NAYS. Also pleased to learn that non-Dems Jeffords, MCCAIN, and Sununu were NAYS.

Happiest thought of the day: McCain NAY
Most depressing thought: Obama YEA

After this debacle, I felt a little like Jean Charles de Menezes' family and friends must have felt after he received 8 shots from London police: WHAT OVERKILL! WHAT A WASTE!
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:34 PM
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15. I heard this headline on NPR
on the way home tonight. The person (female) talked about this as though it was a good thing and how hard shrub worked for it. I thought I was listening to Faux News on NPR.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:47 PM
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18. Time to face reality
we all work for the oil barons. This energy bill proves it. Tom DeLay's hometown (Sugarland) got a big fat bonus from this bill. And the oil companies got tax credits.
No wonder the oil barons bankroll the hits on Democratic candidates. From Clinton to McCain to Kerry, the oil execs. pay for the dirty work.
And now they get their payoff.
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Mr. Peanut Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:20 AM
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28. Time to protest louder
time to fight harder, time not to give up hope.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:34 PM
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19. And none of the bill will reduce energy costs to us
We're just the working class. All we can do is keep on being vocal and telling them with our donations, or lack of, what we think of their representation.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:50 PM
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20. The part of the bill allowing drilling in ANWR was dropped.
Which my be one of the few things good about it.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:39 PM
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24. that's what's called compromise... when Democrats control nothing...
but don't tell that to all the reactionary screamers who'll be posting on this thread trashing Democrats.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:07 AM
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29. Compromise
In this sense of the word, paying mobsters not to burn down your store could also be "compromise"
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