(AFP) Five US soldiers killed in Baghdad bombings.

BAGHDAD, July 31 (AFP) - Five US soldiers were killed and two wounded Saturday in two bomb attacks on their patrols in the Iraqi capital, the US military said Sunday.
One soldier was killed and two wounded when their military vehicle was blown up in the capital's southern district of Dora.
Another four soldiers were killed in a second bomb attack in southwest Baghdad, Sergeant David Abrams told AFP.
The deaths brought the total number of US military personnel who have died in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion to 1,793 according to an AFP tally based on Pentagon figures.


http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arabtimes/breakingnews/view.asp?msgID=9700

Haliburton/Bushco sends their condolences. As their profits shoot up.

Dear Mr. Rumsfeld,

We've just learned that you lost five units of cannon fodder, today, and we wanted to extend our deepest sympathy to you. We understand how difficult it has become to find any more Americans willing to enlist.

We will keep you in our thoughts, and we want you to know that we're doing everything we can to crush the U.S. economy so that military service becomes the only way that Americans can put food on their families.

Yours truly,
Mr. Bush & Mr. Cheney

As he prepared to go to church and pray for more deaths of "Brown Skinned People"

He prays for a new world order, where most "Pesky Negroes", are confined to prisons.

to make more weapons and bullets.

I don't think this bastard goes to church every Sunday. I'll admit - I don't watch TV "news" and if I happen to be passing in a room when it's on and see his hideous face, I walk away quickly before I put a brick through the screen - but I can't say that I see clips of him and Laura "I'm spaced out on antidepressants" Bush attending church.
He's a phony Christian just like he's a phony President. He's a phony everything.

And he's too busy getting prepped for his next photo op on the pig farm and downing a few Brewskis and falling off his couch or bike or whatever to care about dead soldiers and their loved ones. He has absolutely RUINED our military!

Friggen' yellow-bellied coward. If I ever got close enough, I'd spit in his face and wouldn't even mind if I went to jail. Would be well-worth the satisfaction.

:(

he says they get mortared routinely at their camp :(

I'll have to pass this info on to my brother-in-law. He's a big war supporter who believes he'll never get to Iraq!! I hope they remain safe!!

but he was expecting "a cushy job at U.A.E." I told him YOUR ASS WILL BE IN BAGHDAD BEFORE YOU KNOW IT. He was there TWO WEEKS LATER. And he is 42 YEARS OLD.

this story does NOT appear in any other reliable middle eastern source?

sources both Arab, European, and middle eastern

There were about 5 GIs killed a couple of days ago, so I am wondering if this is a new or old

I don't even read the media or listen to the media here. My sources are international

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/EB522849-8D7C-4EEB-BE17-C7DF2AFD3CA4.htm

Agence France-Presse is generally considered reputable.

The article reports the attack at the end
below a car bomb attack.

I just wanted to make sure before I use it

In fact it looks like a VERY accurate source

As "Eugene" said, AFP is generally considered reliable, and you must remember the "F" stands for "Freedom."

I just want to make sure for myself before I use it

It looks like a good source, and in fact it ahead of everyone else

I just like to verify through multiple sources

In fact, unfortunately by my count I think this puts the official count at over 1800 Americans killed

DAMN THIS ADMINISTRATION!!!

he show pictures of Bush smiling and then show the dead soldiers of that day. It's a win-win for Hackett. Either Bush is sick. Smiling after learning of the dead Americans. Or Bush is completely incompentent and has no idea what's going on in Iraq.

Are Democratic handlers this stupid NOT to do this?

THE DOGS OF WAR

The dogs of war were howling then
Sound borne on a foul smelling wind
Iraqi bodies rotting in the sand
Our soldiers dying in that far off land
Were they asked to fight in a noble cause?
Voices choked with blood their unspoken words

“We do not know, we do not know
They only said that we should go
And they had parades and flags did wave
And it was all so fine and we felt so brave

Some warning voices were in the air
Said oil was the reason we were going there
And that forged in steel was a battle plan
That said we had to rid the world of the evil one
(Though he hadn’t come here to bomb our land
So a lot of us soldiers didn’t understand)

But they still sent us off with a big brass band
Where we soaked with blood that foreign sand
To finally come home to this special place
To be held eternal in earth’s embrace
“Neath the green, green grass of our new home
Just us and the worms in this quiet tomb

You see we did not know---we did not know
They only said that we should go
And there were parades and flags did wave
And it was all so fine and we felt so brave.
© by Grace M. Stevenson 2004
Saskatoon85@yahoo.com

And the posted article was from the highly reliable news service AFP.

I just never had heard it before. It looks like a good source

In fact they seemed to be the first to come out with the story

technology! Remember, each soldier has a camera mounted on their helmets. aWol is watching them die as it happens in real time. Probably getting off on it just as aWol does watching the live Torture Cams!

So the MSM has picked it up.

Despicable. And, yes, I am saying "I told you so". And I will continue to say it after every car bombing, every helipcopter "crash", every IED attack and every "small arms fire" attack.

when you have most people in Congress, including most democrats say we can't just leave, that says everything

It won't be until the U.S. media actually starts to report what is happening before anything changes

I PITY THE PARENTS OF THE "joiners" who will soon see their child---

"COME HOME IN A BOX"

Military recruiting is down 40%; even at the military academies are experiencing declining numbers.

People ARE listening to 'you'.


Thank GOD!

glad to see that mission accomplished with all that good ol'american know how.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

1796 US soldiers killed; 1990 coalition.

Afghaanistan and its up to aound 2000

Any of this in the Corporate Sold Media?

None of the following would have happened if 'We'd been listened to.' NONE!!

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One day in Iraq: (icasualties.org)

07/31/05 Reuters: One Dead in Attack on Minister of Environment's Convoy

Gunmen opened fire on the convoy of Ibrahim Issawi, senior adviser to the minister of environment, killing one of his security guards and wounding three on Saturday. The attack took place in the southern Shi'ite town of Kufa.

07/31/05 Reuters: Three Civilians Working for U.S. Killed in Baiji

Insurgents attacked a minibus transporting Iraqi civilians working at an American base, killing three and critically wounding three others in Baiji, 180 km (112) north of Baghdad, on Saturday night.

07/31/05 Reuters: Iraqi Translator Killed in Kirkuk

An Iraqi translator for the U.S. military was shot dead by gunmen as he was leaving his house in Kirkuk, 250 km (150 miles) north of Baghdad, police said

07/31/05 Reuters: One Killed in Baquba

Gunmen opened fire on a group of cooks leaving a military base in Baquba, killing one and wounding three in the town 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad, police said

07/31/05 Iraq Pipeline Watch: #255

July 28 - a bomb on a railway line hit a train carrying oil products near Baghdad, causing a huge fire.

07/31/05 Iraq Pipeline Watch: #254

July 28 - a bomb hit an oil pipeline conecting Bayji and Kirkuk. A gas pipeline that supplies Bayji power station was also damaged during the attack.

07/31/05 Iraq Pipeline Watch: #253

July 26 - two Iraqi security personnel were killed and three wounded by mortar fire near Bayji while guarding an oil pipeline.

07/31/05 Iraq Pipeline Watch: #251

July 20 - late night attack on oil pipeline between Mahmoudiyeh and Latifiyehin in southern Iraq.

07/31/05 CNN: Iraqi Soldier Assassinated

Elsewhere in Baghdad, an Iraqi soldier in civilian clothes was assassinated Sunday in the western neighborhood of Iskan, police said.

07/31/05 CNN: Official kidnapped

A gunman kidnapped an Iraqi doctor Sunday, Thahir Ghalib Al-Dabbagh works in the Al-Noor hospital. He was abducted from the western Baghdad neighborhood of Amiriya about noon (4 a.m. EDT), police said.

07/31/05 CNN: Convoy attack kills Chalabi bodyguard

Bodyguard of Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Ahmed Chalabi was killed Sunday and three others wounded in an attack on their convoy south of Baghdad, a Baghdad emergency police official said. The official said Chalabi was not in the convoy.

07/31/05 Daily Journal : Former MSU students nursing wounds from Iraq

William Brooks was steering his Humvee along a gritty, sand-blown stretch of roadway 15 miles south of Baghdad, Iraq when the Army vehicle suddenly triggered a hidden explosive device. He lost both legs above the knees.

07/31/05 Reuters: Iraq constitution writers mull delay
The team charged with drawing up Iraq's new constitution was locked in debate on Sunday over whether to ask for more time to write the charter and resolve persistent divisions among them. The deadline for requesting an extension is Aug. 1.

07/31/05 AP: US Marines use tanks, aircraft to battle insurgents in W. Iraq

The military says U-S Marines killed eleven insurgents using tanks and aircraft today in western Iraq after the Americans came under attack from a village schoolhouse. The statement did not say whether any Marines were killed or wounded ...

07/31/05 BBC: Iraq car bomb kills five people

A car bomb near an Iraqi police checkpoint has killed at least five civilians, police say. The device was detonated remotely near the town of Haswa, about 50km (30 miles) south of Baghdad. Two policemen were among the 10 wounded.

07/31/05 TimesOnLine: Retired RUC officer dies in Basra bomb blast

A RETIRED Northern Ireland police officer died yesterday in a roadside bomb attack in Basra. Ken Hull, 48, a former member of the RUC, was working as a security guard protecting British diplomatic staff when the terrorists struck.

07/31/05 AP: Five GIs killed by roadside bombs in Iraq
Five U.S. soldiers were killed by roadside bombs in two separate incidents in Baghdad, the U.S. military said Sunday ... the first attack Saturday around 1:40 p.m. ... Later that evening, around 11 p.m., four Task Force Baghdad soldiers were killed ...

07/31/05 Islam Online: London Bomber Says Motivated by Iraq War, Not Religion

A would-be London bomber arrested by Italian police has told investigators that he and three fellows were motivated by the Iraq war and not by religious fervor, denying any link to Al-Qaeda network.

07/31/05 LA Times: U.S. troops set up base near Syria

American troops have established the first long-term military base along a major smuggling route near the Syrian border in a new effort to block potential suicide bombers from reaching targets in Baghdad and other major Iraqi cities.

07/31/05 AP: Ohio soldier killed in Iraq

An Ohio soldier died Friday when the Humvee he was riding in was struck by a roadside bomb in Iraq, family members said Saturday. Army Pfc. Robert Swaney, 21, told his aunt ... he feared he wouldn't be coming back from Iraq alive.


And the Lying ChimpError said: "Bring 'em on!"

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... and didn't see the news
thanks for the info and link (icasualties.org)

else. We were out there in the streets of this city, in frozen-deep temperatures, screaming our (at first) friendly 'warnings' along with millions (record numbers) of other protesters marching in cities and towns all over the world, only for our friendly warnings (and hopes for 'no blood for oil' to prevail) to be totally ignored.

How we wish all their lies and treasons were just a big bad nightmare.

Thanks to DU for we're not alone. We know you're not alone too.

There is hope (before the end of October, maybe).

:thumbsup:


On edit: trying to make better sense. Thanks for understanding.

or dead civilians. If he cared about people getting killed, he would not have rushed to war when it was clearly not necessary. Bush is personally responsible for all the needless death and destruction in Iraq and should be prosecuted as a war criminal.

RIP to these troops and sympathy to the families.

The resistance is reacting to American upgrades and changes in tactics. This takes resources and organization beyond that which the Sunni population can provide on its own. This war is going to be our downfall because our so called allies such as Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, and the financial institutions of other Islamic countries are supporting the resistance, in order to break us of our interference in their affairs through intimidation and armed threats.

Economically we are in decline, this war will eventually break us of our self destructive and facile "sole superpower" delusions.

Massive resources, lives and indebtedness are being squandered on a foolish imperial plan to gain control of Asian resources, when we should be concentrating on our domestic production problems and our declining standard of living. What economic accomplishments could have been achieved with the $700,000,000,000.00 we are expected to waste in Iraq?

we are losing badly. What a massive blunder our neoclown rulers have put us into.

You have to run as fast as you can to stay in the same place.
(Which said place clearly sucks.)

We are engaged in an arms race with the Iraqi resistance,
AND we are losing, the most expensive army in the World is losing.

That even Jessica Simpson, sent on a USO tour and under total security, was shocked at what was going down and demanded to have the sanitized version of her tour video re-edited.

Sometime early this year the insurgency learned how to make shaped charges. These IEDs defeat any armor by directing a devastating focused blow to the target. You can see videos of armored vehicles flying through the air. Armor doesn't really help in that case. So now we are trying to get better at detecting the IEDs, and they are and have been very good at making them impossible to see.

Ultimately we are going to withdraw to our fortified permanent military bases/fortresses and stop going out on the streets at all unless we do so in mass force with air support. The intention is that the hopelessly compromised Iraqi army will be doing the patrolling. That is yet another delusion.

But it isn't the arms race so much as it is the huge economic cost that is going to defeat us. We cannot spend 100B+/yr on this (and my guess is that when you add ALL of it up it is more like 150-200B) with no end in sight without bankrupting the federal government. We are already in a situation where one of our unofficial enemies, China, is holding vast amounts of our debt. What sort of sense does that make?

This war is costing us way too much. We simply cannot spent more than $100 billion per year to secure the Iraq oil and attempt to control the Middle East.

That's what Iraq was: we opened up a Police Station there, in the hopes of controlling the entire area that we are so desperately dependent on.

The cost is staggering. And the amazing thing is, none of this is paid for. It's all borrowed from the future. It's like we're charing this war on our credit cards.

China is our bank, along with Japan, Europe, lots of other countries. They're actually extending our credit so we can keep doing this.

One day, however, our creditors will cut of off. They will be unable to keep extending us. There will be lots of yelling and fists slammed into tables. Lots of cursing.

I've posted many times that the ONLY thing that will stop this war is when we are unable to keep paying for it.

"We are engaged in an arms race with the Iraqi resistance,
AND we are losing, the most expensive army in the World is losing."


Since the most expensive army has become it's sole attribute. No more the defender of freedom and the brave fight for a just cause. This administration has reduced a great military power to fighting for the sole purpose of stalling for time until they can harvest the maximum in power and money.

They will then turn this fiasco over to the Democrats and blame them for not cleaning up the mess fast enough.

Any war that drags on long enough becomes a war of attrition, and it's attrition in the sense of who has to give up first, not in the sense of who is tactically superior. If they have ten times as many men and guns and you only attrit them at five times the rate they attrit you, then you lose, because you run out of stuff to fight with first.

In the money sense, the huge expense of US weapons systems is a positive disavantage, because the Iraqis are able to attrit us financially at a huge ratio, hundreds to one at least. They can afford to try hundreds to times to take out an Abrams, over and over, and all they have to do is get one now and then and they are ahead of the game cost-attrition-wise. Same for aircraft or any of our expensive platforms.

Of course, then it becomes a logistics war too, but again we are on the wrong end of that stick, in terms of cost of supplies, in length and cost of suppy lines, and in terms of time to resupply.

And this is all just the basics of guerilla war and why it is a viable approach for indigenous resistance to invasion and occupation.

...I read several months ago, that 80 Abrams tanks had been destroyed. I can't remember the source though.

died in vain.

1800
WHY?

I don't think so.

coverage on other news sites. This seems to be getting worse (the 'burying' of these stories). Or am I the only one who thinks so?

I have a story to share

On Friday, I callled a recruiter here in Portland. I have 3 teenage boys, and the oldest is going to serve in the Swedish army so he will not be able to serve in the US Army, in case there is a draft. He's very nervous about this.

I asked the recruiter if this is true. We believe there is a law on the books that says if you serve in a foreign military, you cannot serve in the US military.

The recruiter admitted that yes, that is true. Without missing a beat, however, he asked about my 3 teenagers. I told him "they're tall, healthy, athletic. I could almost hear him drooling over the phone. He begged to speak with them. He said, "I need to talk to your kids. We can offer them so much....it'll only take 45 minutes, please".

I thanked him and hung up.

NO THANKS.

your phone number off a display.

I'm sure he was quickly writing down the phone number, as he was doing his Spiel.

Thank God I called from the office.

Isn't that something; when you have to hide your kids from the U.S. Government. What's this country come to?

You ever notice when our soldiers are killed, the anchor announces it and then moves onto other news like it's no big deal. In the meantime, the bodies are adding up. :-(

according to the pentagon.

It is just five more devastated families. We lost 50,000+ in vietnam and if it weren't for all of the upset families and the rioting in the streets and the kids (like me!) out of control everywhere they would have been happy to lose another 50,000.

1800
WHY?


Every highway overpass.

in the same way that sale items are $1.99 or that people note the turn over of 10 or 100 thousand miles on an odometer. To understand the emotional effect of quantities and symbols is all the better to one's own overall anti-war effort.

we are now only 5 more dead sons or daughter, mothers or fathers, sisters or brothers away from 1800. :crying:

He thinks about it EVERY day....it's true...he does...

...

Seems that way sometimes...

I wouldn't count on it.

This makes eight deaths from this Georgia National Guard unit in the last week.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/12271325.htm

Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Four soldiers of the 48th Infantry Brigade were killed Saturday by a roadside bomb in Iraq, military officials said.

The U.S. military said Sunday that the four Task Force Baghdad soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb exploded at about 11 p.m. Saturday in southwestern Baghdad.

Although the military withheld the names of the soldiers pending notification of next of kin, brigade spokeswoman 2nd Lt. Selena Owens told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Sunday the soldiers were from the brigade.

< snip >

On July 24, four citizen-soldiers from the brigade were killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq. They were the 4,300-soldier brigade's first combat casualties since World War II.

i heard that 5 american soldiers were killed this weekend, does that include this 4 or is this 4 more?

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The story seems to merit another news story because the same unit just had four killed last week as well. That is, this brigade had not lost anyone since World War II. On Saturday, July 23, they lose four in an IED explosion (took out a humvee). Thn, one week later, they lose four more in an IED explosion (took out another humvee). So, they've lost eight guys in a week. These are included in the five killed yesterday (Saturday).

Just fuck.:argh: :cry: :banghead:

August 1, 2005
Release Number: 05-08-01C


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/Casualty_Report.asp?CasualtyReport=20050801.txt


FIVE TASK FORCE BAGHDAD SOLDIERS KILLED IN TWO ATTACKS

BAGHDAD, Iraq – Two separate bomb attacks July 30 killed five Task Force Baghdad Soldiers during patrols in Baghdad neighborhoods.

One Soldier was killed when a patrol struck an improvised explosive device around 1:40 p.m. July 30 in al-Dora south of Baghdad.

Four more Soldiers were killed when their patrol southwest of Baghdad struck an improvised explosive device around 11 p.m. July 30.

Two Soldiers were wounded in the al-Dora attack.

The names of the deceased Soldiers are being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

The incidents are under investigation.

..omg. I just came back from a week of vacation and please excuse if this is a dupe. I did a search and did not see this. OMG! It was 1782 Dead last Tuesday when I left! I only read about this on DU. Where is the MEDIA???

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bad for the populace! :sarcasm:
And yes, RIP for these folks and peace to their families. I'll be ecstatic when I no longer feel compelled to add my sympathies because of these soldiers dying, meaning when the dying is done and we're out of there.:cry:

Remember there is no more war on terror according to W.

Yes, this is a dupe but we can't forget those who died for W's war.

An excellent site is www.icasualties.org for the real truth.

has been corrupted beyond recognition by the * gang of thugs. Thomas Jefferson would be horrified. We are turning the whole world against us, for our arrogance and bullying. This is all thanks to * and the PNACers.

I think this simple message needs to be seen by every motorist. Let every overpass be our blog. Make each 'Welcome Home Danny' sign be next to a '1800 Why?' banner.

If the mass media refuses to discuss the carnage then we must replace the mass media.

about this. I think it was yesterday, or maybe Saturday. I posted on it to kick it.

Either way, this is a massive tragedy. And there really isn't anything on Yahoo news about this. Just unbelievable.

If this is NOT a dupe, then I'm going to be shocked. Because there was another group of 5 killed.

We were at a cocktail party this weekend. I met a man in his mid-30's. He told me he was a Bush supporter. After about 1 hour of rather heated discussion (I noticed other people backed away), I finally asked him "Why do you think we're in Iraq?"

He answered me, "I have no idea why we're in Iraq".

At least he was honest with me.

***nice to see you back again, Left. I was wondering where you were:smoke:

The Pigs**. I can't post it but they had a "charter member" photo of the idiot couple on the pig ranch. I had to see it all fucking week long on their shelf in the livingroom AND listen to Faux news as I cleaned.

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