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MRDU Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 01:37 AM
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Iraqi Oil Reaches US Shores
The US Energy Information Administration announced that for the first time since the war in Iraq that started in March, Iraqi crude has reached US market.

This was especially a relief for California as Iraqi oil accounted for over 20 percent of the state’s crude imports in 2002.

The most active US oil companies in Iraq have been Chevron Texaco and Conoco Phillips.

http://www.neftegaz.ru/english/lenta/show.php?id=40953

Iraqi oil reaches California
Likely that Basra crude already in state's gas pumps


Your car could be running on gasoline made from Iraqi oil.

ChevronTexaco and ConocoPhillips both imported Iraqi crude to California in August, according to a filing Tuesday by the Energy Information Administration, the statistical arm of the U.S. Department of Energy.

The shipments mark the first time that Iraqi oil has reached California shores since the United States launched its invasion to unseat Saddam Hussein in March. It also represents a big step toward normalcy for California drivers.

The Energy Information Administration reported in September that other companies imported Iraqi oil in July. But those firms, including Valero and BP, shipped the crude to Texas, not California.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/10/15/BUGI12BFVG1.DTL&type=business









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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 01:42 AM
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1. Iraqi Oil is good stuff...
once you wash the blood out of it.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 01:55 AM
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2. I hereby refuse to buy Iraqi oil.
All of the money is going to the corporations stealing that oil - I will NOT use a single drop of it, even if I have to STOP DRIVING.

I will not sanction this murderous theft of the Iraqi people's oil.

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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:49 AM
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7. Where you been, Zhade?
Didn't you know the US was the largest importer of Iraqi oil prior to the invasion?

That oil was also rather blood-tainted. Remember, it was exchanged for food via the murderous "food-for-oil" program and sanctions imposed by the US over widespread global opposition.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:44 AM
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13. Good point, Paschall
It's not like any of us going to be able to boycott Iraqi oil -- unless one can arrange his affairs so as not to drive to work or the grocery store.

Isn't the free market wonderful? America can have any kind of gasoline she wants, as long as it's bloodstained.
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 01:55 AM
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3. My list of places not to consume from has now become a bit longer.
"No blood for oil." I've chanted this before the war began hoping that it would make some impact and I think it to this day.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:09 AM
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4. Hey, a fellow SoCal resident!
Here's a new one to chant: "No Blood In My Tank!"

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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:13 AM
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5. Nice thought, but hollow promise.
Will you really stop driving, I thimk not. What about your gas range, or is it electric and how is that electricity produced? Chant and spew but you will continue to use energy that is a result of oil. All oil and energy comes out of the same account. Get off your high horse.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:40 AM
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The mattman Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 04:28 AM
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8. read the info in your own link
you aren't using "renewable gree energy" yet they are studying it for the future.
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The mattman Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 04:48 AM
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9. A quick fact of life
I don't get it. Most every person I've heard from on on the topic of Iraqi oil says they don't want it. did you know that the oil that is bought from Iraq is bought at the going market price as set by OPEC , this oil is the only export they have. If we dont buy the oil they need forgien aid. I personally find the oil option to be the best
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:29 AM
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14. You miss the point
I agree that we have little choice but to buy Iraqi oil right now. I would agree that, if Iraq were a free and sovereign nation, that it would be better to buy Iraqi oil instead of giving them foreign aid.

However, Iraq is not a free and sovereign nation. It is an American corporate colony. That is what is revolting.

Iraq was not invaded to make the world safe from Saddam's biochemical arsenal. He didn't have one. Iraq was not invaded to make Americans more secure. We must place half of the army's combat troops in Iraq to pacify a population that doesn't want to be occupied. Iraq was not invaded to bring democracy to the country. It is ludicrous to assume that the Bush junta, which came to power through electoral fraud and which uses the Bill of Rights as a doormat, will promote democracy in Iraq while subverting it in America. Indeed, any real self-government in Iraq would defeat the real purpose of the invasion: to sell the country out from under the Iraqi people for the profit of Mr. Bush's campaign contributors.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 01:31 PM
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15. Amen. You said it better than I could.
NT!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 02:30 AM
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:30 AM
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20. Corproate colony
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 08:39 AM by Jack Rabbit
The term corporate colonialism is used to distiguish modern day colonialism with classic, British-style colonialism.

First, the war not fought for any of the stated reasons. It was flat out colnialism. You know very well that Halliburton, the compnay once run by Dick Cheney, has received no-bid contracts to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure after Mr. Bush's bombs destroyed it.

now that we have estiblished th no one is having thier country sold out from under them, Imust remind you that large companies who contribute to major campaigns do on both sides of the isle, so, "Mr. Bush's" contributors were also "Mr. Gore's contributors.

This is a classic red herring. If President Gore had behaved the same way Mr. Bush did, the war would have been no less corrupt and dishonest. Of course, the US multinationals would have gotten more bang for their buck if Gore had done their bidding. After all, they gave Gore only a fraction of what they gave Bush.

The invasion of Iraq was over a two fold issue first was breach of contract: in sueing for peace the regime agreed to disarm and allow free and unfettered access to the entirety of the country,rember the inspectors were chaperoned the scientists were handled and the inspectors were kicked out. that constitutes breach of contract.

It can as easily be argued that the "breach of contract" was in that the inspectors were also being used by the US for espionage. That is an established fact. It was a foolish thing to do, since it gave Saddam every right to kick them out.

It was extremely unfortunate, since the inpections prior to December 1998 were effective. According to Scott Ritter, the chief weapons inspector, Iraq's biochemical arsenal had been almost completely destroyed. Of course, the war hawks didn't want to hear this; Ritter was never consulted by the junta or called to testify before congress in hearings prior to the IWR vote.

If a new and "noncorrupt" government can be established as a republic (which is what Amerisa has not a democracy)I say all the better.

Bush is not going to establish anything that isn't corrupt. Neither is the embezzler Chalabi. Get real.

As for your case of rebublic vs. democracy, that's another red herring. Whatever it is, the Bushies will not allow any self rule in Iraq since the Iraqis would assert control and ownership of their own resources. And whatever name you wish to give it, Bush has subverted it. He has nothing to do with the traditions of American government. He regards free elections, a constitutional system of checks and balances and civil liberties as hinderances to his regime.

most unfortunately it does take half of our over seas deployment of the mimitary to occupy the country,how ever that wouldn't be so if the prior American regime hadn't defunded, gutted, and demoralized the military.

Hmmmm . . . the tiger shows his stripes.
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 06:42 AM
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10. The most important thing about this
Is that we can now pay for the Iraqi oil in dollars not in Euros. Under Saddam it was sold for Euros. If all oil producing countries did this the dollar would crash. This was a big reason for the war.
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The mattman Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:04 AM
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18. using euros to pay for oil would make the dollar crash???
It's not that simple, the reason that Iraqi oil had to be purchased with euros is simple politics and a french sceme to gain power with in the E.C. . If you don't already know, Iwill inform you now that the french president had a very cosy relationship with Husain. By forcing people to use euros to buy oil it would create a stronger demand for the euro in the inrenational currency exchange market. This would give the euro a higher value against all currencies out side of the E.C. Each time there was a dispute France would bring the value of the euro to the table with them as a source of power.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:34 AM
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23. What is the EC...is the the old European Commonwealth no longer used?
it is the EU...European Union....get over it!!!
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 07:19 AM
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11. What a deal
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 07:21 AM by teryang
We buy them their gasoline from Halliburton for almost two dollars a gallon and we buy their oil as well. So we aren't paying OPEC prices for that oil, we are paying many times more than that, when you kick in the $166 Billion payout Congress will complete soon. Then we'll get a bill for another 40 Billion soon after that.


This will be great for the economy won't it?
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The mattman Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 02:34 AM
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17. Teryang: please clarify tour posting for me
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:36 AM
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21. It appears that Teryang
doesn't want to wrestle with you.

I understand what she/he is saying, do you have tongue in cheek?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:16 AM
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19. Time to roll out that "Mission Accomplished" Banner again
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 08:29 AM
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12. boycott chevron and phillips
don't want no blood oil.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:42 AM
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22. gosh yes I feel "relief" that I can fill my tank with the blood of Iraqis
I'm jumping for joy right now.

Maybe the bones and bodies of the dead Iraqi children we murdered will make my hummer run a little smoother! It's been acting up ever since that kid's bike got caught in my rear axle.

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