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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:37 AM
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Bush rejects Guantanamo Bay prisoner torture claims
U.S. President George W. Bush denied the military had tortured suspected terrorists held at Guantanamo Bay base in Cuba, during an interview screened on Australian television yesterday.

A US-based lawyer acting for two Australians being held at Guantanamo Bay claimed this month that detainees at the camp were subjected to "medieval" torture, including having rubber bullets fired at them.

Bush dismissed the allegation ahead of a whirlwind visit to Australia this week.

"We don't torture people in America and people who make that claim just don't know anything about our country," he told Channel Nine in an interview recorded last week.

http://www.etaiwannews.com/Asia/2003/10/20/1066618080.htm
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:39 AM
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1. They aren't in America according to Bush
The are outside the United States and the US doesn't even need to conform to the Geneva Accords.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 04:46 AM
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2. Wow! What a spirited defense!
I'm convinced. Thank you, Mr. reSident.

:puke:
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:08 AM
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3. He needn't bother. The US voting classes support it enthusiastically

And since almost all the kidnapees are illiterate dirt-poor nobodies from darkest whereverstan that the bush regime paid the ISI $50 a head for, the rest of the world isn't too upset about it, and in fact, kind of likes seeing an example of how the US wants its own people treated when seized by foreign powers, handier and handier as the Crusade expands....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:08 AM
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4. Yeah Right, I believe you raelly
that is why there are Amicus briefs to the USSC right at the
monent


http://www.davidhenderson.com/gitmo/news.htm
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 05:28 AM
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5. ooo, very clever
"We don't torture people in America and people who make that claim just don't know anything about our country,"

This is a very interesting denial - er, no one claimed that people were being tortured in America. CUBA, you dipshit.

Not to mention our frieeeeeendly War on Terror "allies" with a keen interest in forgetting about that whole human rights thing.

I'd like to see Bush try and claim that we don't have people tortured outside of America. Hell, they were even bragging about it in that shitty DC 9/11 propaganda movie.
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:05 AM
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6. Yes, he does torure people in America......
every time he opens his lying mouth, and exposes his ignorance for all the world to see.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 06:20 AM
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7. Well yar. And I am sure he will say do not look into it.
The open gov is gone.( if we ever had it)
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:00 AM
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8. Stinkin' liar
*eom*
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 07:44 AM
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9. WH has also denied its involvement in the massacre at Mazar, Afghanistan
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 07:47 AM by lebkuchen
However, there are many witnesses who saw many US SF in uniform overseeing the horror. The witnesses are under protection as some have been killed since the making of Jamie Doran's documentary. They want to testify provided their safety can be assured. The WH has not asked them to do so, nor does it plan to investigate, saying it knows nothing, but of course, that's highly unlikely. Over 3,000 people don't just disappear in Afghanistan w/o the CIA knowing about it.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jun2002/dora-j17.shtml




Anyone see the insect?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:23 AM
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10. Equivocating again?

"We don't torture people in America and people who make that claim just don't know anything about our country," (Bush) told Channel Nine in an interview recorded last week.

The question was whether the junta tortures people in Guantanamo, not in America.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:32 AM
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13. Excellent point Mr. Rabbit-
I doubt that junior has ever been to Guantanamo let along spell it!
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:56 AM
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14. Two falsehoods
1)Not in America
2)Not people - these are "enemy combatants" and have lost human attributes by their deeds and affiliations; therefore they don't fall under US laws that protect non-citizen humans by our constitution -

These "truths" are the way that Whistleass fails to uphold his oath of office to follow and uphold Constitutionality (buying the judges favor to subvert justice follows through literality interpretation of Patriot acts --isn't it nice that the Constitution/Patriot Acts/Bible were written so broadly). Furthermore, the arrogance that we should monitor the world but no one is entitled to monitor our deeds is disgusting.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:30 AM
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11. I just wonder if they have tapes of the tortures and watch them
while laughing and mocking like he did with the death row inmate? You know that is something that people who torture and kill do...tape keep records of their crimes.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 08:30 AM
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12. A little additional text...
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 08:31 AM by Hand
"We don't torture people in America and people who make that claim just don't know anything about our country--SO STOP SAYING THAT!" he told Channel Nine in an interview recorded last week.

Lying little shitbird (etc.)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:13 AM
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Dupe, Sorry
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 09:14 AM by rocknation
n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:13 AM
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15. Dupe, sorry
Edited on Mon Oct-20-03 09:16 AM by rocknation
n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 09:13 AM
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16. We don't torture people in AMERICA...
but Guantanamo Bay ISN'T in America, is it?

Come to think of it, why DO we have a base in a country we're supposed to want nothing to do with?


rocknation
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anakie Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:15 AM
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17. transcript of Bush's ch9 Australia interview
The shrub at his homey and condescending best

http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/political_transcripts/article_1422.asp
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