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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:00 AM
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Yahoo 'helped jail China writer'
Internet giant Yahoo has been accused of supplying information to China which led to the jailing of a journalist for "divulging state secrets".

Reporters Without Borders said Yahoo's Hong Kong arm helped China link Shi Tao's e-mail account and computer to a message containing the information.

The media watchdog accused Yahoo of becoming a "police informant" in order to further its business ambitions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4221538.stm
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:03 AM
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1. Holy crap!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:03 AM
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2. Looks like I have to cancel my email with yahoo.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:07 AM
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3. I have to add that some people feel Reporters Without Borders
is not what it purports to be--that is, a freedom of the press org. No good info on that, tho, just a caveat fwiw.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:11 AM
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5. Do they ever!
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:22 AM
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7. My son found this Flashpoints show: Talks about US funding links...
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:24 PM
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11. RWB's funding is largely irrelevant outside of the United States.
I won't expect them to be criticizing the US government anytime soon, but there are other groups that handle that anyway.

Whether or not you like Reporters Without Borders' funding source, the fact remains that their citicisms are largely indisputable. When someone is jailed for reporting the news, the funding sources for the people complaining about it aren't important...getting the imprisoning country to free them is.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:07 AM
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4. Profit at any cost!
Yahoo owns lots of the internet transport servers, which form the "backbone" of the web. Unfortunately, the use their services is inescapable.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:22 AM
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6. This is where you never fail to hear,
from libertarians, that there is no ethics involved in running a company, and that everything a corporation does is only a business decision. I used to debate such topics on Slashdot, for example when it was revealed that Google censors search results in China so that it can continue to do business in China. Usually the prevailing opinion was that Google can and must do what's good for its business, and that anyway the Chinese are better off with a censored Google than with no Google at all.

I was abhorred then and am abhorred now. There are always ethical dimensions to business, which many libertarians obtusely deny. These people would be selling gas chambers to Hitler if there was money to be made.

The problem is, the law, as it stands, REQUIRES corporations to behave in this manner, because the law doesn't recognize any non-monetary aspects, values or responsibilities in corporate business.

To anyone interested in such matters, I highly recommend a book called "The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power" by Joel Bakan, as well as his DVD by the same title. The book is short and concise, and makes a well-argued point about how the law actually encourages behavior that would be called antisocial or psychopatic if an individual person did what corporations do. I'm sure no-one at Yahoo or Google likes to see dissidents imprisoned, tortured and executed - but they make these decisions on behalf of a legal fiction that is corporation, which shields them from personal responsibility.


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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:23 AM
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8. Like the ending of Animal Farm
the pigs and the humans all start to look alike.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:39 AM
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9. ah the greedy pigs are busy again.
what's the price of a life or two when there's business to be done?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:58 PM
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10. I've long hated Yahoo and encouraged lists not to use it.
I'm not surprised at this.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:29 PM
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12. This is disgusting
How do we make Yahoo pay for this kind of criminal activity?
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