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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:02 AM
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Cheney's new adviser has sights on Syria
By Jim Lobe


WASHINGTON - A neo-conservative strategist who has long called for the United States and Israel to work together to "roll back" the Ba'ath-led government in Syria, has been quietly appointed as a Middle East adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney.

David Wurmser, who had been working for the undersecretary of state for arms control and international security, John Bolton, joined Cheney's staff under its powerful national security director, I Lewis "Scooter" Libby, in mid-September, according to Cheney's office.

The move is significant, not only because Cheney is seen increasingly as the dominant foreign policy influence on President George W Bush, but also because it adds to the notion that neo-conservatives remain a formidable force under Bush, despite the sharp plunge in public confidence in Bush's handling of post-war Iraq resulting from the faulty assumptions propagated by the neo-cons before the war.

Given the recent intensification of tensions between Washington and Damascus - touched off by this month's US veto of a United Nations Security Council resolution deploring an Israeli air attack on an alleged Palestinian camp outside Damascus - Wurmser's rise takes on added significance.

More: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EJ22Ak02.html
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:06 AM
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1. Is this one of those
Uh-oh! moments?
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:09 AM
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2. Thank God for the Draft
(Or lack thereof)

Because to invade Syria and occupy we'd have to double the size of the Army and that could only be done if either every single 18-25 year old from RW families enlists (don't worry, they won't) or a national draft is re-imposed. Since a draft would be political suicide for Bush, checkmate.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:16 AM
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5. what you say seems perfectly logical RobertS, the problem is
the neocons don't pay any attention logic. They are fucking nuts!

:scared:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:22 AM
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6. I wouldn't be so sure
You are giving the citizens more credit than they deserve.
"Since a draft would be political suicide for Bush, checkmate."

After the run up to the war in Iraq and now the Arnold deal, it is clear that public opinion can easily be shaped to conform to any insane policy that they dream up. When they decide it's time to draft, a campaign will be launched in the media, and 51%
will eventually go along with it.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:11 AM
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3. I am getting the feeling that the PNAC group are accelerating ....
their agenda and wonder if they are seeing the possibility of Bush being a one-termer. I think they are trying to drive this ahead fast so there will be a point-of-no-return in the middle east.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:13 AM
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4. Exactly -- Bush is expendable
But the policy must endure.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:28 AM
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9. And if the US gets "buried" in conflicts prior to the election
and they can manage to keep public opinion behind them, then the voting public may be unwilling to change "leadership" midstream/war. The trick is spinning the upcoming war/invasion in a favorable light. Bush* has shown that he can make the media complicit in his crimes quite easily and the public pays so little attention that they can warm up to battle with a simple wave of the flag - as long as they aren't personally affected.
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:27 AM
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8. Bingo! Expect Israel to really fire things up now too. They will do
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 10:41 AM by Flying_Pig
much over the next year, if they feel Bush is headed for defeat. In the meantime, they, and their allies in groups like AIPAC, and in the media, will do all they can to sabotage the Dem candidate, and enhance Bush's "re-election" chances.

We will see unprecedented levels of involvement and influence by Israel on our political system (read: election) over the next year. The power they already wield over Congress is stunning, and as Israel feels "Bush is the best friend Israel ever had in the White House", we can expect a "full-court press" on their part, to save their co-conspiritor in ME affairs.

The recent Syrian Sanctions bill is an Israeli/PNAC effort. All but a small handfull of Dems support this, giving Bush and PNAC additional tools with which to start wars. Why would these Dems do this? Why would ANY Dem do ANYTHING that would enhance or enable the Bush regime in its plans for world conquest and ME subjugation?

It is greatly disturbing to me, that an outside nation is allowed to exert such influence on our government. Allowing this, is a violation of our Constitution. Solutions to prevent it are difficult too, because as many Dems blindly support Israel, as Republicans. Perhaps Israel should be made a state, so that it can legally be a part of our government? (sarcasm off).
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:23 AM
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7. Here's more on Wurmser...
David Wurmser
From Disinfopedia, the encyclopedia of propaganda.

<http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=David_Wurmser>

"Wurmser is a close friend and political ally at the AEI with Richard N. Perle. Perle wrote the introduction to Wurmser's book 'Tyranny's Ally: America's Failure to Defeat Saddam Hussein.'"

Yep...another major NeoCon player.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:44 AM
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12. I knew his name was familiar....
I saw this neocon creep very recently on cspan. I knew he was AEI but I did not know about the appointment to cheney's staff. Every freekin thing they do is secret!
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:31 AM
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10. What a thread to wake up to
http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat2.htm

'Coping with Crumbling States' by Wurmser mentioned in the article.
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:35 AM
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11. Another paper from the same people
A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm

This is the paper mentioned in the article.
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:24 AM
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14. I dunno why they fucking do this
I read AJP Taylor's 'the struggle for mastery in Europe' a few years ago or at least i might have read half of it. I never understood a frigging word of it.

It's this very quick, bounce around from idea to idea like a yo-yo on speed, breathless, incridably literate, never use a two slyable word when 5 sylabuble word will do, style that just gets on my wick.

I mean: "...the Middle East nation-state system could crumble with the violent resumption of history." What does that fucking mean? It sounds bloody clever. More like he just a pretentious git though.


anyway rant over.

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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:34 AM
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16. it's like
the article is a sucession of ideas, but the author only explains 90% of each idea so that the reader has to work through it slowly and semi-decipher it and the reader comes away with the illusion that the article is 'very clever' when in fact he has just been ripped off.

Either that or I'm a idiot :evilgrin:
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:51 AM
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20. Another snippet
"The residual unity of the nation is an illusion projected by extreme repression of the state."

Anybody starts writing like this here and I am putting them on ignore.
:+
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Jorje Bzsch Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:42 AM
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19. thanks for the link
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bambo53 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:01 AM
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13. Amazing, I thought this was America
I don't remember seeing any of these neo-con Jewish war mongers on the last election ballot. I want my country back.

Perhaps Dr. Mahathir's speech was the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Why else did it sting so much?
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:33 AM
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15. Damn. What a bunch of shits.
<snip>
In the book's acknowledgments, Wurmser praised those who most influenced his work, a veritable "who's who" of those neo-cons most closely tied to Israel's far right, including Perle himself, another AEI scholar, Michael Ledeen and undersecretary of defense for policy and the man in charge of post-Iraq war planning, Douglas Feith.

Wurmser listed former CIA director James Woolsey, who has called the conflict in Syria the early stages of "World War IV", Harold Rhode, a Feith aide who has also called himself Wolfowitz's "Islamic affairs adviser" and INC leader Ahmed Chalabi.

Wurmser also gave thanks to Irving Moskowitz, a major casino operator and long-time funder of Israel's settlement movement, whom he described as a "gentle man whose generous support of AEI allows me to be here".
<snip>
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:36 AM
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17. Now both leakers share office space under the watchful eye
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Jorje Bzsch Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:38 AM
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18. Oh My god !!!!
I dont know when US soldiers gonna stop dying to protect Israels Interest.In the Middle East. Road Map ? did you say road map???
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