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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:29 PM
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FEMA Chief Relieved of Katrina Duties
WASHINGTON - Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, The Associated Press has learned.

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Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, where he was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster, according to two federal officials who declined to be identified before the announcement.

Brown will be replaced by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad w. Allen, who was overseeing New Orleans relief and rescue efforts.

Brown has been under fire because of the administration's slow response to the magnitude of the hurricane. On Thursday, questions were raised about whether he padded his resume to highlight his previous emergency management background.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050909/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_brown
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:31 PM
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1. Same on MSNBC
NBC: FEMA chief relieved of Katrina duties
Report follows controversy over Brown’s qualifications, agency’s response

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9266986/
--
They're not even firing him, such bullshit!
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:31 PM
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2. kick
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:34 PM by flamingyouth
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
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3. FEMA Director to Be Out Soon, Sources Say
Sept. 9, 2005 — Federal Emergency Management Agency director Michael Brown, under criticism due to his management of Hurricane Katrina as well as reported discrepancies on his resume, is expected to be out as head of the agency very soon, informed sources have told ABC News.


Brown had virtually no experience with emergency management when he was appointed to the position by President Bush two years ago.

Brown was a friend of Joseph Allbaugh, a former Bush campaign manager who directed FEMA from March 2001 to March 2003. Brown was the deputy chief of FEMA in 2001 and moved up when Allbaugh left.

Before becoming part of the agency, Brown was a top official of an Arabian Horse Association. The secretary of that association says it asked him to resign in 2001.

more:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1111074
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
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4. Oh hell yes!!!!!!!!
Let it be so.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
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5. Not soon enough....
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
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6. falling on swords..
.. that is what Bushco officials do so well.

Bush and Cheney are the one who should go, along with many others.

Sue
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. I'd say ...
let's have resume checks on other Bush appointed officials...imagine what we'll find?
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #7
34. How about for Ms.Karen Hughes..... n/t
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
70. Starting with John Roberts.
Is 2 years on the bench really sufficient to be appointed CHIEF JUSTICE?!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #70
133. Short answer; no
Long answer; no

Any Democrat that votes to confirm this charlatan will be a target of my wrath.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #133
180. As per John Stewart:
Short answer; no
Long answer, noooooooooooooooooooooooo! :-)
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
129. How about Georgie?
I don't know how closely the Supreme Count checked out his resume before appointing him president in 2000.
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JustSayNO 2 Sheeples Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. ABC News, via AP, now reporting on TV that Brownie GONE
Just annnounced via WFAA Television in Dallas (ABC)
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #8
45. Just a PR move to quell criticism
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #45
88. It will wind up being that - as long as we sit back and do nothing.
Please contact CNN - www.cnn.com/feedback, and MSNBC - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3303518/ and urge them not to roll over and go back to sleep now that it seems as though the problem's been solved. This guy hasn't been fired. Nor has his supervisor, michael chertoff. Nor has THEIR boss, bush. If you'd performed this poorly on your job, would YOU still be working? I guess in this case, the White House must think it's the Boston Archdiocese or something. Just move the offender somewhere else, safely out of range, and the problem will just go away.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #45
157. Isn't he staying with FEMA until Bush promotes him?
Isn't he just being relieved of his Katrina responsibilities?
Isn't he still drawing salary in the 6 digits(supported by our taxes)?

This is just so Dubya can take the heat off himself. Make it look like he is making someone accountable for all the dead people.

Brownie is still on the payroll. Brownie has not lost his job. Brownie has not lost his head. Brownie just doesn't have to do the dirty work of cleaning up the mess he and his bosses let happen.

Brownie, you're doing one heck of a job keeping your job.

IMHO if they are going to keep him, he should be out there in the field doing the dirty work like recovering bodies.

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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #157
179. BINGO Virginian!
People who fail or under-qualified are hired and promoted by the Bush Adm.

Condi Rice: Cheer leader of Iraq war ignored warnings of 9-11; now heads
state dept.
Paul Wolfowitz: Architect of Iraq war now at World Bank
Donald Rumsfeld: shakes Saddams hand; head disaster of Iraq War

Brown will be promoted and probably be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #179
182. yes, * will promote/ honor him

as a direct snub to the American people. showing us who's boss!
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #8
171. Gone but not forgotten...back in DC working on prep for hurricane Ophelia
What a laugh.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. NOT FIRED----moved back to D.C.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:20 PM by karlrschneider
..
according to CNN
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #9
35. *moron can't even fire someone right!
:mad:

dp
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #35
141. george holds on to the boys that adore him
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Breaking News
Breaking news on MSNBC.com is that he is "been removed from role in Katrina's efforts."
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #10
49. Next disaster, Brownie's in charge. Lord help us all!
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
11. To be replaced by another hack, no doubt.
n/t

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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #11
152. No, they actually had to appoint someone competent...
...which Brown proved he was not. Too little, too late as usual.

Can't we impeach them for incompetence???
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. The BFEE loves to promote the incompetent.
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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. Breaking: ABC News -- Brown out soon

http://abcnews.go.com/

Just the headline ...

About cheneying time
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. I'm having....
a Brown-out and then a drug-laced brownie...how about you?
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #14
69. Sharing?
:9
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ohioliberal Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. 'bout damn time! n/t
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
117. Ok, I'll say it: Thank you, President Bush.
Pardon my unfamiliarity with addressing this man this way, but this is the first Presidential thing that Bush has done in at least four years.

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #117
190. Don't thank him. He only did it to make himself look better.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 11:36 PM by Carolab
It's all about polls at this point. Brownie being there was just adding to the plunge. What he SHOULD have done was fire this incompetent asshole. Instead, he put him in charge of overseeing Ophelia! That's even WORSE!
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Gunit_Sangh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
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16. Breaking: ABC News -- Brown out soon
This thread has been combined with another thread.

Click here to read this message in its new location.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. MSNBC saying Brown being removed, no link yet. AP
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. top of the page headline
AP: FEMA chief Michael Brown removed from role in Katrina efforts

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #18
26. thanks.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #17
127. the top 5 officials in FEMA are equally UNQUALIFIED as Brown
i heard Pelosi say this
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
19. Brownie your doing a fine job. Brownie your going to be the fall guy.
King ASSHAT thinks this is going to slow down some of the finger pointing, LMFAO. The shitstorm has only just begun.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. bush just cracked. look at this! he supported brownie fully,now reversed
course... this may be a first. bushco is unraveling!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. Newsweek/Time Mags out now--msm bashing increasing
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #24
137. Why, that would mean...........he made a mistake?
Say it ain't so, Joe! The Chimperator made a mistake? STOP THE PRESSES! Well, don't stop the presses just yet, but tell the guy that DOES stop the presses to get ready to stop the presses. And that's all I have to say about that.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #19
33. "What didn't go right????" HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
OMG PRICELESS
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #19
136. He's only returning to Washington........
to be measured for his Tuxedo. You can't wear any old suit to your Medal of Freedom presentation, you know? ;)
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #136
153. EXACTLY!! Screw the pooch, get the medal of "freedom"
The shit that goes on in Washington these days is beyond belief.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #19
143. LOL!
The best of friends and all that, cha know?

Be careful the company you keep.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
20. Bio of Vice Adm Thad Allen, the guy being appointed to
replace Brown who is going to be looking at 'the big picture' from now on, lol

http://www.rh.edu/news/news03/commencement03/vadmbio.html
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #20
78. Someone with some prior leadership experience
Who'da thunk it?
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #20
96. Vice Admiral Allen got one of his Masters at MIT ???!!!
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 01:13 PM by Turn CO Blue
and another of his Masters at George Washington ??!!!
He has managed and commanded many operations and people for years...

I admit at this point, I am rather impressed, and believe me, I don't give this misAdministration ANY credit these days.

His wife is an academic counselor -- I bet she's a crazy Liberal! Ha ha!



-----------------------------------
(SNIP)
Vice Admiral Allen is a native of Tucson, AZ. He graduated from the U. S. Coast Guard Academy in 1971. He holds a Master of Public Administration degree from the George Washington University and received the 2000 Distinguished Alumni Award. He also holds a Master of Science degree from the Sloan School of Management of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Vice Admiral Allen is married to the former Pamela A. Hess of Champaign, IL. She is a college academic advisor. They have three grown children, Amanda, Meghan and Lucas. Vice Admiral Allen is the son of Clyde and Wilma Allen. Clyde Allen is a retired Coast Guard Chief Damage Controlman and World War II veteran.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #96
147. But some loser
named Brownie is the head of FEMA.

um. yeah. okay.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
21. What about his three deputies? They too should go
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Brightmore Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
22. AP: FEMA Chief Michael Brown Removed From Katrina Duties
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:20 PM by Brightmore
FEMA Chief Relieved of Katrina Duties
By LARA JAKES JORDAN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, The Associated Press has learned.

Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, where he was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster, according to two federal officials who declined to be identified before the announcement.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/09/D8CGS6680.html
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. NOW WE KNOW WHY SCOTT WOULD NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION
WHAT A F***ING COWARD
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
25. Just reported on CSPAN
Source was AP. "Two unidentified sources confirm Brown is being sent back to DC...."
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #25
42. He is only being pulled from NOLA he will still be director and do other
things in FEMA
nSHIT I live in the bay area. this is not good.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
27. YES!! 1 down - a load MORE TO GO!!
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
28. Coast Guard head to replace Brown
CNN just now
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
30. out of role in Katrina effort?
but not of job w/ FEMA?

dp
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
31. "appointed to the position by President Bush"
He will be the designated fall guy, but Bush appointed him.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #31
58. Spot On! Brown gets the "Tenet treatment", but no one questions *'s judge
judgment.

Appointing Brown was a HUGE fuck-up by Bush, total lack of judgment.
Appointing Brown was blatant example of Bush rewarding political cronies.

Brown will fall on his sword, a la Tenet, probably get a Congressional Medal of Freedom for slinking off silently,
BUT BUSH WILL NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS LACK OF JUDGMENT IN APPOINTING THE IDIOT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

:banghead:
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rjenn Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #58
159. Just so no mis-quotes - Bush didn't appoint Brownie
Brownie was appointed by a guy named Apallaugh, or something like that.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #159
167. Brown was given his job by Bush himself
Joseph Allbaugh & Brown were college roommates.

When Brown got fired from his last job (w/horses), Allbaugh gave his old friend a job at FEMA.

Allbaugh then left FEMA to work full-time on Bush's campaign.
He recommended Brown take his place.

Bush then nominated Brown to take over from Allbaugh as the head of FEMA.

Yes, there was a recommendation from Allbaugh to hire his friend as his replacement, but it was up to Bush to give him the job.

In any case, we have incompetent cronies running our gov't with no qualifications other than they are all in the "good ole boy" network.

Poor us.
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rjenn Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #31
146. actually not appointed by Bush
I think he was appointed by a guy named Apallaugh - or something like that. Bush appointed that Apallaugh guy - that guy appointed Brown.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #146
161. Bush had to have been aware of who the other guy apointed.
An appointment of this importance may have even required Bush's signature. If the media is on the job, we will get these details. In any case, it wouldn't absolve Bush. The chief executive has to be on top of these things.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #146
168. see my post above - # 167 -eom
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
32. NOT FIRED, THOUGH
He has been removed from directing FEMA operations in the Gulf flood area and sent back to DC. BUT, he has not been fired. There is a difference. No one in the Bush Adm. ever really is punished by firing.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #32
43. they are not ever punished. EVER!
he'll get a medal, mark my words.

dp
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #43
162. The only way to get...
...punished is to tell the truth.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #32
92. He'll resign so he can get paid. To be fired=no money
Bush: "Brownie has decided to spend time with his family" or some such thing will be said.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
36. "Replaced on the ground" according to CNN.
Will "run FEMA from Washington."

Replacement is coast guard admiral.
This is how they "fire" him without actually "firing" him.
If they really canned him that would be tantamount to admitting an error and they are just not able to do that.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #36
48. gawd trof it is F***ING SICK
the nation NEEDS that bastard Brown fired - JAYSUS we know we'd get fired for errors so tiny compared to this - these bastards just cannot put America first can they???? :puke:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
37. Good, enhances "screwed up" focus on the feds.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
38. MSNBC - Brown Out
Just heard on MSNBC
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. Here's a link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9266986/

NBC: FEMA chief relieved of Katrina duties
Report follows controversy over Brown’s qualifications, agency’s response

MSNBC News Services
Updated: 1:20 p.m. ET Sept. 9, 2005
WASHINGTON - Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, NBC News and The Associated Press reported Friday.

Two federal officials who wouldn't be identified told the AP that Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, La. He was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster. NBC learned the same thing from a relief official.

FEMA has been criticized for its response to the disaster, and Time magazine on Friday reported that Brown’s official biography overstated his emergency-management experience.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. FEMA's Michael Brown has been fired by Bush.....
....Rush Limbaugh and the extreme RW won't be happy about that!
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #38
41. Bush, Cheany, Rice NEXT!
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JesterCS Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. CNN
has it on their main page as breaking news. big red box at top.

Can we just make the entire administration leave while we are at it. Might as well =p
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #38
46. You Did a Shitty Job, Bownie
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #38
50. Link Here
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9266986/

WASHINGTON - Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, NBC News and The Associated Press reported Friday.

Two federal officials who wouldn't be identified told the AP that Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, La. He was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster. NBC learned the same thing from a relief official.

FEMA has been criticized for its response to the disaster, and Time magazine on Friday reported that Brown’s official biography overstated his emergency-management experience.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #38
52. They still can't even fire someone properly!!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #38
54. relieved of NOLA duties only, still director in DC dwith Chertoff
Brown is not fired from FEMA.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
47. FEMA chief relieved of Katrina duties (AP) Link:
FEMA chief relieved of Katrina duties

LARA JAKES JORDAN

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, The Associated Press has learned.

Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, where he was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster, according to two federal officials who declined to be identified before the announcement.
http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/12601909.htm
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
51. Who was it again that said
"Brownie" was doin a "great job?
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
53. So Brown hasn't been fired, just relieved from Katrina???
Is that what I'm understanding here? What the hell kind of good does that do????

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #53
60. thats correct, Kelly O'Donnell is reporting this now MSNBC
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:29 PM by caligirl
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #53
131. Brown: "No. No. I'm still the director of FEMA."
:puke:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #53
149. It means
No One is in Charge. aka George FUBAR Bush.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency cannot respond to an actual EMERGENCY!

Are we safer yet?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #53
188. It frees him up so he can completely mishandle the next disaster.
Comforting, isn't it?
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
55. MSNBC - FEMA Chief relieved of his duties!
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:27 PM by demo dutch
NBC: FEMA chief relieved of Katrina duties
Report follows controversy over Brown’s qualifications, agency’s response

MSNBC News Services
Updated: 1:20 p.m. ET Sept. 9, 2005

WASHINGTON - Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, NBC News and The Associated Press reported Friday.

Two federal officials who wouldn't be identified told the AP that Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, La. He was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster. NBC learned the same thing from a relief official.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9266986/
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. Brown remains director in DC, with Chertoff, he will not be fired. Out
of NOLA only.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #55
65. And I still wanna know... Where's William Lokey...!??!
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #55
114. He should be made to walk the whole long way. With his head
hanging in shame.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
57. Now get the AWOL/Moron who failed to check his resume to be held....
accountable, too.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
59. Looks like this will be: "Mr Brown resigned from his FEMA post
voluntarily" in a few days.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #59
154. Resigned from a disaster
of the greatest magnitude in recent history.
The "head" of FEMA. Isn't that special.

Oh my job today is fixing disasters. I just don't feel like it.
PMS or something?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
61. Moving him back to DC until they line up someone to hire him
Look for him to end up with a lobbying/consulting outfit.

onenote
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. so another military person is in charge. um....



......Brown will be replaced by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad w. Allen,
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #63
66. So Halliburton hires him, he goes right back to NOLA on a clean up
contract. :spank:
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:54 PM
Original message
right
Then he and his college buddy can room together again. How can these people look into the mirror?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
62. MSNBC anchor commented Brown said he wanted to retire
in November.

could his removal now be step 1 to him being out.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #62
139. So he's staying to meet some time requirement.........
for a pension or something, and bush is letting him so he can screw the taxpayers over once again. He should be fired, now. What exactly has he done do earn his salary?
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allthatjazz Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
64. Soon he will need to "spend more time with his family"
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #3
75. Brownie you're doing such a heck of a job, we're going to fire your ass
:crazy:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #3
93. So he's still in charge of FEMA
and still getting paid by US taxpayers. They've just admiited he can't run a hurricane response.

From a safety point of view, it could save some lives, but it's not the ideal outcome.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #3
124. they were more than friends they were COLLEGE ROOMMATES
and LIFELONG FRIENDS
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
132. AND HE WAS DOING SO WELL.. Why would they do that to Brownie??
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #3
185. I heard this earlier and whooped for joy!
:bounce: Now if we could get rid of the rest of those sorry f*cktards...
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:37 PM
Response to Original message
67. He will be sent to an empty office containing
A revolver with one round in it and a pre-written note thanking GWB, the most inspirational leader the world has ever known, and apologizing for letting the "great, great man" down, and how the shame is too much to bear. With a pen for his signature.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #67
76. Kinda Reminiscent Of The Scene From 'Enemy At The Gates'
Khrushchev to General he is removing from command:
"I have to report this to the Boss."

"Perhaps you'd prefer to avoid the red tape."
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #67
158. omg
you guys are killing me with laughter! :D

I can hardly wait to get checked in at the concentration camp. (j/k)
We'll have a grand ole time.

:hide:
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BewilderedCitizen Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
68. He probably just needs to get back to Washington to prepare for
his Medal of Freedom ceremony.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:39 PM
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71. Mmmmmmm....
Makes the Brownie I am eating so much more delicious!
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #71
72. Brown will still oversee BIG picture.. Unbelievable!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:42 PM
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73. "And Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. " - the Bush kiss of death
You know when Bush says something like this the person in question is all but done for because he says it to quell the negative chorus and then asks questions later as to whether there is anything to the criticism.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #73
113. that and "no one could have predicted the failure of the levees"!! nt
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:43 PM
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74. FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP
FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:45 PM
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77. Goddess loves the Coasties
Hopefully old Thad is a REAL Coastie, and not a stooge...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #77
102. Yeah, he's a "real" Coastie.
Graduated from the Academy in 1971, and has done it all, including command of a LORAN station and 3 Cutters.

Old boy knows his shit, I'll warrant!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:47 PM
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79. Here's my email to CNN:
Re: Michael Brown being relieved of duty - will your reporters and anchors now go back to sleep and assume that everything's now been taken care of and all is well? Or will you CONTINUE to hold this White House acccountable? "Brownie" serves at the pleasure of the guy who hired him and promoted him and told everybody he was doing "a heck of a job." Will you now let him escape accountability - again? I sure hope not.

You've just started asking hard, tough questions. PLEASE DON'T STOP NOW!!!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:48 PM
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80. But Scott McClellan said there's no finger-pointing
Ken we play the blame game now too? Ken we? Ken we huh?
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:48 PM
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81. Is Brownie still doing a heck of a job..? - eom
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:51 PM
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82. WTF, Brownie was doing a heck of a job!!
I sure hope they don't think this takes the heat off the rest of the them, but I guess that's how they'll start spinning it.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:51 PM
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83. heck of a job, brownie!
:puke:
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:53 PM
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84. Told hubby earlier that this is just
a political posturing event for BushCo. People are angry about how FEMA and the other Feds have handled the whole fiasco, and Bush wants his approval rating to start going back up. While I'm glad he's gone at least for the moment, it's not permanent. Yeah, he's not out of FEMA, just out of Katrina duties.
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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:54 PM
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85. No, keep Brown on!
Don't fire him! just reduce his pay to level 2 and hand the jerk a shovel, them send him to new orleans to clean up the mess he made. And keep him there, living on MREs until the entire city is cleaned up. he needs to learn first hand what misery his stupidity has caused.
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Mister Mark Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:55 PM
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86. watch it live
I think it's about to be shown live on MSNBC's website:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9120777/
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:57 PM
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87. Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, GOODBYE!
Bridgeport, Conn.'s very own Steam serenades "Assclown" Michael Brown as he heads back to the Colorado horse farm.

The population of the horse farm has just increased by one-half of a horse -- the rear half.

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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:00 PM
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89. But, but...the President said Brownie was "doing one heck of a job"
Sure he was, doing a heck of a nothing job. Yahoo. Impeach Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield. And get rid of that vile sinner Pat Robertson too!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:01 PM
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90. SO IS BROWNIE GOING TO BE INCHARGE OF THE NEXT HURRICANE?
HE WASN'T FIRED!
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #90
91. They fired the SHIT heard round the world
GOOD RIDDANCE...
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:13 PM
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98. Brown still is in charge of FEMA
He is just going back to Washington . He needs a break from all the hard work he has done....Yeah, right.

Bush can't fire him as that would be admitting he made a mistake in appointing him.....can't have that, can we?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:09 PM
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94. Brownie not fired just transferred and hidden away!!!
He was attracting too many people and his incompetence and his no disaster experience was coming back to haunt BUSH!!!
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:11 PM
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95. Attention Faint heart Dems look how wise Nancy Pelosi looks
right now!.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:12 PM
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97. Brownie's doin' one heck of a job.....
now heel boy!! :kick:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:14 PM
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99. another day late dollar short ..Brown has already killed thousands
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:14 PM
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100. US emergency aid chief sidelined (BBC News)
(I agree, it's about damn time!)

US emergency aid chief sidelined


The top US emergencies official is being removed from his role managing the Katrina relief effort, agencies report, quoting unnamed US officials.

Friday, 9 September 2005, 18:01 GMT 19:01 UK

Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, is being sent back to Washington from Louisiana where he has been overseeing aid work. Mr Brown has faced strong criticism over the pace of the rescue effort.

Allegations that Mr Brown was not properly qualified for his post recently surfaced in the US media.

According to the unnamed officials, Mr Brown is being replaced by Coast Guard Vice Adm Thad W Allen, who has been overseeing New Orleans relief and rescue efforts. The officials added that Mr Brown was not being removed from his job as Fema director "at this time", AP news agency reports.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff took the decision to move Mr Brown, the sources said.

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4231170.stm>

(more at link above)

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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #100
103. WOW! Who's the blonde gal
over Barbara Starr's Right Shoulder??

Hubba.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:38 PM
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191. WHAT???? n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:15 PM
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101. FIRE BROWNIE - PELOSI AND REID
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:18 PM
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104. Did anyone in the press ask WHY?
Get them to say WHY.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:30 PM
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105. no FIRE BUSH he is responsible for it ALL!!!
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RaulGroom Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:31 PM
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106. WHAT?!?!
"On Thursday, questions were raised about whether he padded his resume to highlight his previous emergency management background."

No, on Thursday it was discovered that he HAD NO PREVIOUS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BACKGROUND.

Idiots.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:44 PM
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119. Brownie's resume:
here ya go - it's quite damning:

When President Bush nominated Michael Brown to head the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) in 2003, Brown's boss at the time, Joe Allbaugh, declared, "the President couldn't have chosen a better man to help...prepare and protect the nation." But how well was he prepared for the job? Since Hurricane Katrina, the FEMA director has come under heavy criticism for his performance and scrutiny of his background, and Friday was relieved of his duties handling the disaster response. Now, an investigation by TIME has found discrepancies in his online legal profile and official bio, including a description of Brown released by the White House at the time of his nomination in 2001 to the job as deputy chief of FEMA. (Brown became Director of FEMA, succeeding Allbaugh, in 2003.)

Before joining FEMA, his only previous stint in emergency management, according to his bio posted on FEMA's website, was "serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight." The White House press release from 2001 stated that Brown worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., from 1975 to 1978 "overseeing the emergency services division." In fact, according to Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees. "The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME. "Department heads did not report to him." Brown did do a good job at his humble position, however, according to his boss. "Yes. Mike Brown worked for me. He was my administrative assistant. He was a student at Central State University," recalls former city manager Bill Dashner. "Mike used to handle a lot of details. Every now and again I'd ask him to write me a speech. He was very loyal. He was always on time. He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt."



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #119
155. "Heck of a resume, Brownie,...
...way to stick to the facts."
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #119
163. Sounds like
yellow cake to me.

A starched shirt?
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:31 PM
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107. Brown in Washington ready to misspend the 60 BILLION
dollars appropriated to FEMA for disaster. The fucktard mismanaged FEMA funds in Florida ... imagine what he could do with 60 Billion!! There was no oversight in the appropriations bills ... shall we guess how much he can get away with?
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:26 PM
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169. At least one tenth of 1% = $60 million...
...makes the corporate golden parachutes look wimpy by comparison.

Of course he'll have to give half of it back to RNC. They will have to split it with Chimpy as speaker fees once the idiot leaves office.

Cynical? Me? After what we've seen in the last four and a half,why shouldn't I be...

...the real question is why the rest of the American public isn't.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:32 PM
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108. "Brownie is DOIN a good job"
The buck stops WHERE????

The little king george has NO clothes.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:32 PM
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109. Brownie's not gone, he's just being hidden.
According to MSNBC he was "planning to retire in November anyway." Why can't these people just get fired . . . period?
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:33 PM
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110. Should have happened sooner....WTF took so damn long....bastards n/t
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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:34 PM
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111. Hmmm I guess this means he is still in charge
when we have our big earthquake here on the San Andreas fault.
Oh well, the Bay Area is full of fruity, nutty democrats anyway. Not much more use to the Republicans than those 'disadvantaged people' from NOLA.

I guess I am supposed to be reassured?
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:42 PM
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116. Same with Seattle
Bush wouldn't care if an earthquake wiped us into Puget Sound either. No help for us. Afte all Jim McDermott lives here so we wouldn't deserve any federal help either.
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Chimpeach Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:34 PM
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112. Puts one in mind....
of the Pope shifting around all the priests who were diddling the boys.
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KnaveRupe Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:41 PM
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115. Anyone else smell a Medal of Freedom a-comin'? n/t
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sandboxface Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:43 PM
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118. GO TO HELL MICHAEL BROWN
AND THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO, BUSH!!!!
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:45 PM
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120. returning to get DIPPED IN BRONZE
it's true, heard it on the Daily show and everything

and, and he'll get pinned with so many medals, he'll fall over
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:47 PM
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121. this is an admission of guilt
they couldt use "fired" but booting him out says he knew he wasnt qualified.
5 of 9 top officials in FEMA are appointees of bash and not one of them had any disater experience , but helped in bashs campaigns. Travesty/ people died over his political paybacks/
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spooky123 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:09 PM
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126. pay back
they belong in jail in prison for murder. he is not fired just moved back to washington. bush can't admitt that he made a mistake so therefore he won't be fired he will stay until he resigns which will be a long time in coming. don't want to give up that great pay check and medical benefits. oh don't forget the pension. he is a perfect example of the peter principle.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:48 PM
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122. He can't handle a huurricane, but he can do one heck of a blow job.
Bush can't fire a guy like that.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:03 PM
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123. Now when will Bush be relieved of his "presidentin' duties"?
Seeing as how they got the people of New Orleans into this mess in the first place...
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:08 PM
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125. i heard pelosi say that the top 5 officials in FEMA are equally UNQUALIFED
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spooky123 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:12 PM
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128. unqualified
they are all bush cronies. they worked on his campaigns. thats all they did. what a fraud. they all belong in prison for what they have done. but that will never happen. bush and chaney still need to be impeached.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:16 PM
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130. Well, we have our fall guy. Bush & Co can blame everything on a guy
who lied on his resume. "How were WE to know?"

Move along. Nothing to see here. BushCo. business as usual.

BULLSHIT!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:34 PM
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134. Exactly....
He should talk to the former CIA director...
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:35 PM
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135. left the job for family values, I presume
Bush, you're next, right after Chertoff.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:41 PM
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138. An Attaboy to Goodboy - called it yesterday
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 02:42 PM by ThoughtCriminal
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:50 PM
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140. "My Pet Scapegoat"
Bush will ask for yet another do-over from the American people and try to lay the blame on Brown just like he did with Tenet. This is not Brown's fault. Bush hired a horse association man. He could have just as easily hired the horse he milks every morning to head FEMA. and it wouldn't have been the horse's fault This is Bush's fault. The executive and managerial hiring decisions of the President are his responsibility. Bush himself proudly proclaims that he's a delegator. If he can't even be held responsible for how he delegates then there's no action for which he can be held accountable.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:39 PM
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160. LOL & BINGO! Let's talk about Bush's JUDGMENT in apptng this guy. -nt
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:35 PM
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177. Brilliant!! My Pet Scapegoat®
Man, is that ever so.

Hats off.... :)
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:00 PM
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142. Another version of this story
Can be found at JABBS.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:06 PM
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144. too little, too late. nt
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:08 PM
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145. Why did Bush do this? He doesn't watch polls. Cheney told him
everything is fine and Bush told our congressional reps, Pelosi et al that nothing went wrong? There's no reason in the world for Bush to remove Brown. Unless Bush is lying about something. Is Bush lyin'? Come on Bushie, tell us the truth.
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freemen2005 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:11 PM
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148. News Flash - Bush Impeached!!!!
I WISH
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:18 PM
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150. I think I know this approach
You reward incompetence by removal from responsibility, and you keep your job, you keep your salary for which you contribute nothing, and you keep your title, as you search for a 6 figure job with the next horse association needing a "proven leader."

Puke.
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joefanosedog Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:03 PM
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166. Fake resume
Now they are trying to say that Brown lied on his resume. I don;t think anybody even looked at it - it was a patronage job as we all know - but who is more to blame? A loser like Brown who stumbled into luck - or the guy who allowed him to be hired - George W. Bush?

Also - is anyone in the media looking into the backgrounds of any other department heads to see it this exists there? MAybe we can do something about it before thousands of peole die as a result of that mistake.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:19 PM
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151. Won't Brown be getting a Medal of Freedom soon like all the other F* ups?
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:28 PM
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156. A rather large hint to resign. n/t
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:41 PM
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164. This is one of the biggest PR scams
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 03:42 PM by tomg
they have done yet. A few days ago, the questions regarding Brown's resume padding comes out. Now he is being sent back to Washington. Next he will be canned. Big Deal. Maybe Allbaugh takes a few hits ( but he is now in private sector so that is all). And all of the right-wing pundits, much of MSM and, the ever-ready bunnies over at Faux News get to play three new themes. Theme one, of course, is Bush was betrayed by his underlings. Remember during the debate? What is your biggest screw-up George? "Well, gosh-a-roonie, I appointed some folks who weren't what I thought and who let me down. I mean, this guy lied on his resume." Theme two is, see, he is really a take charge guy, just like on 911. Takes him time to get past the bureaucrats but blah blah blah. And then the third theme. And they have been playing this for awhile. You know, it is all that bureaucracy. And he's not gonna let bureacracy get in front of "the people." And they only way to do that is a) privatize the whole thing and b)streamline how government operates. Fucker sounds like Mussolini.
I know some people on DU are questioning reality right now ( did the boy king actually show some minimal leadership and do something right). No. It's okay. You're sane. All this shows is that Karl is back in town and Dirty Dick is done buying real estate.

edit:typo
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:55 PM
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165. yup, never Dear Leader's fault. Nosiree! The buck DOES NOT stop here!
Incredible the blame shifting this maladministration gets away with.

Has ANYONE in this administration EVER taken responsibility for ANYTHING????

I hear Colin Powell will be on TV tonight, crying about how he was "misled", re: Iraq War intelligence.

They are all completely full of shit and devoid of integrity.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:30 PM
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170. Katrina survivors to march on Washington DC on 9/11
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Activists_plan_911_Katrin_0909.html

Activists plan 9/11 Katrina protest
Miriam Raftery

Activists are organizing plans for Katrina survivors to march in Washington D.C. on and plan to stage an act of civil disobedience by building an encampment on the Washington D.C. mall on Sept. 11, RAW STORY has learned. The encampment would serve as a center for Katrina activism.

Two websites have been established to support the cause: www.campkatrina.org and www.bushville.org. In the past day, unique hits on Bushville.org have risen from 239 to 3,562, organizers said.

The term "Bushville" was inspired by encampments of homeless people dubbed "Hoovervilles" that sprang up following the Great Depression.

"This site created as an act of spontaneous outrage," the websites read, adding that they were created as, "an act of love and hope for all humans killed or endangered by Bush's gross dereliction." Establishing camps in Washington D.C. will keep America's attention on the "criminal negligence of Bush," the sites asserts.

"I felt that Bush was going to use 9/11 to blindfold us the flag," the activist who posited the Katrina encampment concept, told RAW STORY. He asked that his named not be published. He draws parallels to the Bonus Army, an assembly of 20,000 World War II veterans, families and other groups that demonstrated in Washington D.C. during spring and summer of 1932.

If an encampment is held on 9/11, it would pose a striking juxtaposition to the Freedom March planned by the Pentagon to commemorate the terrorist attacks. Initially, only a handful of hurricane survivors may be bold enough to pitch tents on the Washington D.C. mall. But ultimately, the activist hopes to see thousands of Katrina survivors on Bush's doorstep-remaining through the Congressional investigations into Katrina.

"They will camp in the seat of power and media to demand truth and action," the activist predicted, "for as long as it takes."

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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:25 PM
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184. We need them in huge numbers on 9/24
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:59 PM
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199. Thanks for the info
will try to get to that
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:51 PM
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172. He said Brown would return to Washington to oversee the government's respo
He said Brown would return to Washington to oversee the government's response to other potential disasters.


Famous last words...Bush knows its hard WERK being in charge of disasters..I'm sure.

Bush will probably give Brown a Medal of Honor.

bunch of pricks..

thanks
Blaze
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:55 PM
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173. Poor Brownie doesn't know why he was removed
A beleaguered Mike Brown said Friday he doesn't know why he was removed from his onsite command of Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, but he does know the first thing he'll do when he returns to Washington.


"I'm going to go home and walk my dog and hug my wife, and maybe get a good Mexican meal and a stiff margarita and a full night's sleep," Brown told The Associated Press. "And then I'm going to go right back to FEMA and continue to do all I can to help these victims."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_brown_interview_1

:eyes:
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:59 PM
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174. Isn't it amazing how Bush
Continually gets away with murder, I mean literally murder.
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WoodyD Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:19 PM
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175. Assistant to
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 05:20 PM by WoodyD
Kinda funny how old "heck of a job" Brownie padded his resume from "assistant to the city manager" (basically an intern) to "assistant city manager."

Brought to mind a vaguely recalled episode of the BBC version of "The Office," with Gareth introducing himself as "assistant regional manager" which his boss corrected to "No, you're the assistant to the regional manager."

Once again Dubya's dickheads prove there's no such thing as satire any more. It's all too horribly real in this cheneyed-up administration.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:24 PM
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176. Not Fired.
Brownie's still around to screw up some more disaster relief someplace else. The man should be filing for unemployment assistance. Turd.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:01 PM
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178. bushie needs to fire him and all who were incompetent
because this is the one organization in government where competence is vital - it should never be determined by politics. If he and the others stay on then the next storm or attack will have the same incompetent response. James Lee Witt and some of the others who are known for their expertise should be placed in control.
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:11 AM
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193. Small problem with that - who would be left?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:44 PM
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198. I am beginning to think that no administration is better than
the one we have now.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:53 PM
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181. Poor Bush, his rating got so low he had to fire someone incompetent.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:55 PM by superconnected
That he instated.

Poor, poor bush.

Guess sometimes those incompetent positions come back to bite you.

And then the bad pr move of getting rid of femas 2000k debit cards for the victims. Now they have to apply on line at femas site for relief directly deposited into their bank accounts.

Many poor people of course don't HAVE bank accounts.

And can't get them anytime soon because their ID will be missing. How many do you think will know their social security numbers. Banks of course require they have the card when they open the account.

Then there are the poor who have never BEEN to internet, that they have to get to after they open their bank account. Are federal agencys going to set up kiosks for this and show them how?

Oh bush, you heartless crook, nothing deters you from hurting the poor.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:33 PM
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183. NEED TO GET RID OF CHERTHOFF, TOO (for starters) (n/t)
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Vetrik Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:47 PM
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186. But nobody blames the state?
What ever happened to states rights? Is it now the responsibility of the Federal Government to decide our every action? I thought democrats were against the Homeland Security to begin with. Go ahead and ban me, I know you will. Anyone that offers an opinion different then yours gets banned anyways. Its just sad that you have the guts to call that freedom and a "democratic" view. You are all disgusting.

No I am not a republican, but believe what you want (and you obviously do, no matter how insane it is)

Peace... (something you dont understand because you prefer to stir up mayhem anyways, quit projecting your own personal problems on everyone else.)

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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:02 PM
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200. You won't be banned yet--no one knows what your talking about (n/t)
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:12 AM
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194. Hell yes! Why wasn't he removed, too?
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:09 PM
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187. 'Bout Damn Time!!
Too little, too late for thousands that have died, and will die, because of the slow response. That's what happens when you appoint unqualified political hacks to run government agencies that are SUPPOSED to provide help, relief, and aid, in times of a national crisis...when city and state resources are overwhelmed, such as they were in New Orleans.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:12 PM
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189. Now, we just need him to be fired or indicted.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 12:03 AM
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192. All I can say is, "Too little, too late."
n/t
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:47 AM
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195. I emailed PIG MAN the first day after the Mayor got on the air and was
cussing because he said "Nayger". I told him he had better slow down with whatever it is that enables him to keep on stuttering without breathing or he was going to have another Freudian slip.

I'm so glad to hear that his true colors AGAIN have come out. Who has sent an outrage complaint to the FCC? I'm going to!

A copy of my email I sent to the Pig man 9/6/05, Tuesday, and a paragraph that addressed the exact same subject.

Original Message -----
From: Frankly_fedup2
To: rush@eibnet.com
Sent: 9/6/2005 1:00:22 PM
Subject: Entitlement?


"You're coming across as a racist and you better be careful with the Mayor's name. You almost said the "N" word by accidentally adding an "R" to his last name (Freudian slip?). You talk so fast without even breathing but you better either not even say his name or slow down. "Your career could depend on it."


I'm so sick of his hate spewing mouth. HE was the first one to politicize this horrible tragedy, and then blamed others for doing it. He accused these people, because they are poor, as being raised with an "entitlement" mentality. The Government had done everything else for them, why hadn't the government gotten them out in time." I guess he has never heard the term, "Working poor."

I thought I just saw a headline that said Brown had just been dumped from FEMA? Will have to research it and find out.


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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 02:31 PM
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197. The Pig Man's comments were outrageous.
He meant exactly what he said.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:49 AM
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196. Good riddance. That was long overdue. Are they that incompetent
that it took them a whole 'nother week to get rid of that sorry excuse? They even reprimand people in slow motion.
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Teena Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:51 PM
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201. CALL NOW!
Unhappy with the way things are going in the United States?
Launch a complaint. Let the Commander in Chief know you think
it’s time he and his cabinet stepped aside so that competent leaders
can begin to restore dignity, order, and progress to our nation.
The phone number for the White House is as follows:
(202) 456-1414
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