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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:45 PM
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World Summit on UN's Future Heads for Chaos
World summit on UN's future heads for chaos

UK leads last minute effort to rein in US objections

Ewen MacAskill, diplomatic editor
Saturday September 10, 2005
The Guardian


The British government is mounting a huge diplomatic effort this weekend to prevent the biggest-ever summit of world leaders, designed to tackle poverty and overhaul the United Nations, ending in chaos.

The Guardian has learned that Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, has made a personal plea to his American counterpart, Condoleezza Rice, for the US to withdraw opposition to plans for wholesale reform of the UN. He has asked Ms Rice to rein in John Bolton, the US ambassador to the world body.

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Although the US has emerged as the leading opponent of the reform package, objections have also been lodged by some governments from the Non-Aligned Movement, which represents much of the developing world.

Ricardo Alarcon, speaker of the Cuban parliament, whose hopes of attending the summit along with President Fidel Castro were dashed when he was denied a visa by the US, said in Havana the summit "has been totally devalued, its original purpose kidnapped".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1566848,00.html
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:47 PM
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1. Shit. If chaos is what they wanted, they should put Bush and Cheney
in charge of the UN. You get double Texas style chaos with those two rattlers.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:49 PM
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2. ....and so the fun begins!!! Enter the age of Bolton... (nt)
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:50 PM
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3. Wasn't John Bolton supposed to bring the UN some 'much needed reform'?
I see he is still the same fuck up as always.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:51 PM
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4. Aaaahhhh. The UN with John Bolton. He is already piling up the
success stories. The wanted to screw it up and they did. They must be so happy.

:eyes:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:17 PM
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5. Good grief! What else is the U.S. going to f0ck up?
I'm so embarrassed to be an American these days. Our government is like the middle school bully who beats up the smaller kids just because he can. But with Bolton at the U.N., I guess we shouldn't expect anything else. What a disaster...
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:20 PM
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6. Who knows? Thanks to "black box" non-validating voting machines,
the future is ripe with possibilities, especially with this buffoon
leading the country.

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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:26 PM
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7. So the US is joining with OTHER third world countries
to block any effort to "tackle poverty". (Also recognize Global Warming).

This sure says volumes about the morals of the current US "leaders".
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:28 PM
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8. Can't have any of those liberal environmental laws interfering
with the God given right of Capitalism, can we?
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Diima Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:57 PM
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9. Denied Visas?
I thought by the UN Charter the US wasn't allowed to refuse visas to officials coming here specifically to attend UN sessions.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:53 PM
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18. I don't understand how they can get away with this type of behavior.
But then again I can!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:19 PM
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10. kick
..
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kma3346 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 PM
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11. World summit on UN's future heads for chaos (Rice asked to rein in Bolton)
Ewen MacAskill, diplomatic editor
Saturday September 10, 2005
The Guardian

The British government is mounting a huge diplomatic effort this weekend to prevent the biggest-ever summit of world leaders, designed to tackle poverty and overhaul the United Nations, ending in chaos.

The Guardian has learned that Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, has made a personal plea to his American counterpart, Condoleezza Rice, for the US to withdraw opposition to plans for wholesale reform of the UN. He has asked Ms Rice to rein in John Bolton, the US ambassador to the world body.

The British government is mounting a huge diplomatic effort this weekend to prevent the biggest-ever summit of world leaders, designed to tackle poverty and overhaul the United Nations, ending in chaos.

The Guardian has learned that Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, has made a personal plea to his American counterpart, Condoleezza Rice, for the US to withdraw opposition to plans for wholesale reform of the UN. He has asked Ms Rice to rein in John Bolton, the US ambassador to the world body....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1566848,00.html?gusrc=rss
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 PM
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12. P.S. Rice asks UN for sanction on Iran.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 PM
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13. don't be suprised
Gutting the World Summit: Bush Betrays Poor Women Again

This week's United Nations World Summit-originally intended to assess governments' progress on pledges to reduce poverty and
promote development by 2015-is in danger of being derailed by the United States. The meeting itself is proceeding with much
fanfare, but the US is working to ensure that its outcome will do little to alleviate the suffering and human rights violations
experienced by the world's poorest people-most of them women and their children.

Two weeks before the Summit, John Bolton-recently appointed by Bush to the post of UN Ambassador despite his notorious
hostility to the UN-put forward his own draft of the outcome document for the Summit. Bolton made a whopping 750 changes to the
UN draft of the document, which has been under negotiation for more than six months. His revisions block potential progress on
issues that are critical to everyone in the world, including development, nuclear disarmament, and global warming. Bolton even
deleted all mention of the eight Millennium Development Goals (MDGs)-the internationally agreed-upon framework for reducing
poverty -even though evaluating the MDGs was supposed to be the main purpose of the Summit.

To most of the world, Bolton's obstructionism looks more like bullying than negotiating. It's a tactic that we've seen before from the
Bush Administration: barge in at the final hour of negotiations, demand drastic changes, and then gradually relent, but only to the
point that you were willing to accept all along. That way, the outcome document will reflect your demands (and the New York Times
will describe your machinations as "compromise").

This is the Bush Administration's idea of multilateralism, and it benefits the Administration by lowering the bar on human rights
commitments, especially those that threaten to restrain profit-making in favor of protecting the world's poor. In fact, the bar was
pretty low to begin with. The proposed formula for achieving the MDGs (their "targets" and "indicators") downplays governments'
human rights obligations, and paradoxically, touts economic policies that benefit the rich as a way to achieve development for the
poor.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0910-20.htm


dp
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 PM
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14. Mission Accomplished
They sent Bolton in to blow the place up.
And he's doing a heck of job at that.

The only international order the Bushies want
is for the world to do America's bidding.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 PM
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15. reign him in?
beat him senseless and let the world get on with it's business.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 PM
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16. We Told Them So.
Too late Poodle: sit, and STFU.... Good doggie:

The British government, in a rare divergence from the US, is fully behind Mr Annan's reforms and fears the summit will fail to build on the agreements on aid reached at the G8 summit at Gleneagles.

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" (Bolton + Cheney + Poppy + Wolfie):

Aid agencies and other international groups monitoring the talks expressed fears yesterday that ambitious goals on aid, protection of civilians and curbs on the arms trade will be lost.

"collapse"?? What else is new?:

Nicola Reindrop, head of the New York office of Oxfam International, said: "Negotiations are on the verge of collapse."

"The Disaster pResident" Rules:

A representative of another group, at a lunch with Mr Annan on Thursday, described the negotiations as "imploding".

The Great Uniters Are In Charge:

"Ambassadors at the 191-member UN remained divided last night, three days after the deadline for completion of the draft document had passed. Talks will continue over the weekend. Monday has been set as the new deadline."



All for themselves, nothing for everybody else. We told them so.



Pssst: Hey, bLiar! How's your niche at Carlyle's?? Sleep!
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 PM
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17. The world must really be impressed with America anymore
We are the most incompetent government on the planet
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:02 PM
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19. in the entire history of the planet
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 05:03 PM by annabanana
We are so big and so strong and so stupid that we can screw up like no one could ever screw up before!

We're Number 1!!
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:31 PM
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20. Tony (Carlyle's poodle) swings his tail, and jumps thru the O!

I can believe they're not gonna screw up all his (promised) Options way before he'll ever get there!!

bLiar sold his soul to the Anti-Christ for 30 pieces of silver!

(or less....) :grr:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:39 PM
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21. Cheney and Rummy couldn't be happier!!
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:58 PM
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22. Why don't they just pack up and move their operations...
If the US wants to play the isolationist or obstruction role, it seems more feasible to just move, re-write the charter to exclude country without a constructive agenda for the world?

Once these idiots see that the UN will not be a whipping post, I'm sure the idiots will have a much different outlook.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:52 AM
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23. World summit on UN's future heads for chaos
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1566848,00.html?gusrc=rss

The Guardian has learned that Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, has made a personal plea to his American counterpart, Condoleezza Rice, for the US to withdraw opposition to plans for wholesale reform of the UN. He has asked Ms Rice to rein in John Bolton, the US ambassador to the world body.

Mr Bolton has thrown the reform negotiations into disarray by demanding a catalogue of late changes to a 40-page draft document which is due to go before the summit in New York on Wednesday.
Mr Bolton, one of the US administration hawks, became ambassador last month only after a long confrontation with the US senate, mainly caused by his ideological dislike of the UN.

The foreign secretary is planning to make calls to fellow ministers around the world over the weekend.

. . . more
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:52 AM
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24. Dear UN:
Don't pay too much attention to Bolton. At least in the opinion of this US citizen he doesn't really represent the people of the United States.

In fact, he was what some call a "back door" appointment. Take a good close look at him. Does he look like a back door man to you? He does to me.

And he was back door appointed by an government with one of the lowest polling numbers in the history of the United States. How did this government get elected? Twice it was by the margin of one state and there certainly appeared to me to be a concerted effort to keep opposing voters from the polls.

On top of that, the major voting machine company paid in a lot of money to get this government elected. I mean who's kidding whom?

Please UN, stay the course. Show us what real democracy and accountability can accomplish.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:52 AM
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25. John "Wrecking Ball" Bolton -- on schedule, as planned
Doing what Bush-Cheney-Rove Inc. sent him to do.

Lunatics.

Hekate

#Why won't the Chickenhawk cross the road?#
#Why isn't the Chickenhawk waitin' on the levee?#
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:52 AM
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26. The US can never call for UN reform again
Here they are, all ready for massive reform, and the 'US' opposes it.

Game over for US 'outrage'

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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:52 AM
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27. Could this be a diplomatic "shot across the bow"?
It seems as though Foreign Sec'y Straw has plenty of issues with the US position and yet no word on complaints being raised with fellow ministers, just calls. Sounds a bit like an ultimatum; either drop your opposition or the rest of us arrange a tea party and the US won't be invited.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but here's hoping. :toast:
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