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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:42 PM
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US military finds itself under harsh spotlight
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/sept11/dailyUpdate.html

The words of US Lt. Gen. William G. "Jerry" Boykin continue to create problems for the White House. Mr. Boykin, an evangelical Christian, in a speech to a church group last year, attacked Islam, said the US was engaged in a holy war, and made several statements about the role of God in US politics that are directly at odds with positions taken by the Bush administration. (According to The Nation, this is not the first time that Mr. Boykin has been involved in these sort of incidents, but it wasn't until last Friday's story in the LA Times, and on NBC, that they have been focused on by the wider media.)

Sunday the Bush administration distanced itself from Boykin's remarks, but did not publicly reprimand him. Religious conservatives were quick, however, to defend Boykin's remarks. ABCNews reports that Rep. Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan., drafted a letter Monday asking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld not to discipline Boykin, saying that elected officials and military leaders have talked about God and spiritual matters throughout US history.

On Tuesday at the APEC summit in Thailand, President Bush took aside Malaysian PM Mahathir Mohamad to tell him how much he disagreed with Mahathir's remarks last weeks about Jews "running the world by proxy." But an editorial in the Washington Post argues that perhaps Mr. Bush should have shown the same indignation at Boykin's remarks.

But from the Bush administration, there has not been a syllable of criticism. Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Thursday that it didn't seem Gen. Boykin had violated any rules. "We're a free people," said Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. On ABC's "This Week" Sunday, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice ducked the question – twice. The president ought to be forthright about comments that are wrong and divisive – whether they're uttered by a foreign leader or by one of his own generals.

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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:46 PM
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1. What if General Wesley Clark had
used those words? The right would be going ballistic. Just depends on one's general, I guess.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:52 PM
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2. No, if Clark had said those things
WE would be going ballistic.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:55 PM
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3. That's true also - but the fact that Clark
is a Democrat would have made all the difference to the right. The Democratic side would have remained the same.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:58 PM
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4. the president has no idea of the meaning of the word "forthright"
None! He thinks that that word means he has the right to bully others at will, approve of others who do so, and pretend that he is in charge of something in the White House. I would suspect he thinks it has something to do with his golf game--
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:12 PM
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5. The problem is that Boykin said what he said while in uniform
and that's where he should be disciplined!
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:17 PM
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6. Don't forget that he was in uniform
Many news sources are neglecting to mention this and state

its relevance
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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:28 PM
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7. If Boykin were to get re-assigned, wouldcha think…
Naaaa….they wouldn’t do that……



NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--The Pentagon is looking for a new chief spokesman for
the U.S. military in Baghdad, Cable News Network reported Tuesday.
CNN, citing senior officials, said the new position is part of a Bush
administration effort to stop what it perceives to be a daily flow of bad news
out of Iraq.
The Defense Department is looking for a brigadier general to take the newly
created post, CNN also reported.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:42 PM
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8. Rummy
"We're a free people," said Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.


I beg to differ.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:19 PM
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9. Forthright
You were probably being sarcastic, but this dimwit probably literally does not know the meaning of the word...unless it is in some second grade reading book.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:20 PM
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10. The whackos run this ponyshow
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:01 PM
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11. Bushco has come to a fork in the road
What position to take?

a) scold General Boykin and be seen as reasonable to the rest of the world. In doing so, they will anger their driving force, the ultra conservative right. If they pat him on the head and say 'good boy, Boykin', they will anger everyone but the conservative right.

b) continue to scold Dr. Mahathir for his remarks about the Jews. In doing so, they will further anger the muslims (can they be angered any more than they already are?) but they will keep their masters happy.

Solution? They will probably do both, but just a little scolding of Boykin.

What a name, by the way. Sounds like 'mannequin', but a boy mannequin.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:15 PM
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12. "Home-schoolers" and "snake-handlers".....
are taking over the military. The evangelical wing of the DOD is getting stronger every year. Boykin is by no means acting alone. There is a whole cult of these fuckers infesting both officer and enlisted ranks. Most are "lifers", Xian soldiers prepping for "The Rapture". George Bush* is their new Messiah! Glad I got out when I did!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:43 PM
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13. bush shares the same bigotry...why would he criticise Boykin?
Fundies are extremely dangerous people.
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