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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:43 PM
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Bush approval rating at 40 percent (CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/19/bush.poll/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Bush approval rating at 40 percent
Majority disapprove of the handling of Katrina, Iraq

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's vow to rebuild the Gulf Coast did little to help his standing with the public, only 40 percent of whom now approve of his performance in office, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday.

Just 41 percent of the 818 adults polled between Friday and Monday said they approved of Bush's handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, while 57 percent disapproved.

And support for his management of the war in Iraq has dropped to 32 percent, with 67 percent telling pollsters they disapproved of how Bush is prosecuting the conflict.

...

Fifty-nine percent said they considered the 2003 invasion of Iraq a mistake, 63 percent said they wanted to see some or all U.S. troops withdrawn from that country and 54 percent told pollsters they favor cutting spending on the war to pay for disaster relief.


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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:44 PM
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1. Have to wonder just what the 40% are approving of. Still too high.n/t
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:46 PM
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3. Well, you've got the 35~% who will stand by their man, even if pictures
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 02:46 PM by sabra
came out with him in bed with Jeff Gannon and Bin Laden.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:50 PM
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9. Tax Cuts Gang
won't let go of their money or their support.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:48 PM
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32. True -- "the greed is good" crowd refuse to see beyond the trough. n/t
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:40 PM
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72. Gordon supports Bush
No matter what.

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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:58 PM
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77. :) n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:46 PM
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31. Have to agree - the number of Kool-Aid drinkers never seems to change.n/t
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:21 PM
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39. That's why 32% support for his handling of the war is so striking
I don't think I've seen a number that low for Bush on foreign policy or "war on terror" issues.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:33 PM
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70. don't forget a goat
even a goat wouldn't disuade the real sophists. They honestly don't care.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:28 PM
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41. that's his base man, his base. they don't care if he chopped the
head off of a baby. they would tell you he had a good reason for doing so, and that you are being un-patriotic for asking why.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:40 PM
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45. I know what you're talking about..
have plenty of these pukes at my place of employment. Katrina was the NO mayor's fault, offshoring is good for the stock market, cut every domestic program but not the conquest budget, Hillary is a whore, and ad naseum.

No wonder I come home from work so tired and depressed every day :)
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:57 PM
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48. that's still awfully high
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:33 PM
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52. That must be very difficult to cope with, NeoConsSuck.
Hope you do find the spirit of the majority (60%+) here on DU

Wait. Alright: I just love your username!! ;)
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #45
79. Hey, are you down the hall from me?
It sounds like we work at the same place (lol).
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:10 PM
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111. lol. n/t
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BSDRebel Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:45 PM
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2. 40%
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 02:45 PM by BSDRebel
that's about right. I've always thought about a third to half of the country are closet morons.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:47 PM
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6. LOL...
There are some militantly stupid people in this country. I'm turning up the volume on my computer CD player so I don't have to listen to one of them right now - the one seated diagonally to me at work who's wining about the media being "unfair" to Bush in its hurricane coverage. :puke:
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BSDRebel Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:05 PM
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20. hahaha...
it's always the media for those types.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:55 PM
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15. Who was it yesterday...
said that if * burned down the White House 35% would give him high marks for creating construction jobs?
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:29 PM
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56. That was Leonard Pitts Jr.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #56
61. Wow!....
I knew that I read this, but could not remember the source.

Man, that was like 7 1/2 hours ago.

Wow
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:27 PM
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28. and racists
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:41 PM
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74. Welcome to DU! A reasonable assessment, I'm afraid.
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 12:41 PM by calimary
One would always hope for better.

However, in this day and age, in which SO MANY PEOPLE are held captive by a media that is one-half fire-n-brimstone, pass-the-loot televangelist and one-half limbaugh or limbaugh-wannabe, THIS is the result you get. Souls that veyr likely can't be saved - unless that media condition is radically changed and/or the force-feeding stops.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:46 PM
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4. Oh, excellent. And Gallup's always on the high end.
Another poll showing LOST GROUND on the speech. :D

And LESS THAN A THIRD of the country approves of his Iraq handling! That's awesome news. :)
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:02 PM
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19. here's lovely graphic for you
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:05 PM
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21. Thanks for the graph.
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 03:06 PM by deadparrot
Did you ever think we were going to see the light at the end of the tunnel after 9/11 and all that Iraq invasion hysteria?

Unfortunately, 3,000+ Americans, tens of thousands of Iraqis and almost 2000 of our own soldiers had to die to get to where we are now, not to mention God-only-knows how many Katrina victims. It's really very sad. :cry:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:30 PM
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34. It is incredibly sad
this is a time in my life where being correct in my forecasts has brought me no joy, no light and no hope.

I would rather have been wrong.

:(
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:47 PM
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5. how long until Wolf Blitzer says: "but he's going up, up!"
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:47 PM
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7. And this is Gallup?
Are they still doing the imbalance of r's to d's and wasn't their last poll his highest with them?
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:53 PM
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13. Here is the link
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:50 PM
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8. CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll... Right wing poll can't even get their
numbers up!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:51 PM
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10. If the truth were indeed known, I'd say junior's poll numbers
couldn't be any higher than 32%. But the old whores keep coming out with the same 0' razzle dazzle shit day after day, and its always the same and the numbers never go down.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:52 PM
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11. They probably just adjusted their stupid sample and he
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 02:58 PM by Bumblebee
was at 40% (as opposed to 46%) all along -- but if that creates a nice "slide" story, who are we to complain? :) If there was, indeed, a significant slide, he should be in the mid 30s in the more accurate polls. Looking forward to seeing those.

By the way, the disapproval number there is the highest ever -- 58%. He was at 40% once before, late August, but the disapproval number was 56%.

http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

Since Gallup is so shifty and unreliable, we should enjoy it while it lasts. Next time it may be back to 50% in that one, for all we know.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:52 PM
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12. That makes 3 polls I've seen where he went down after speech.
:rofl:
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zoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:53 PM
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14. Limbaugh said it was at 48% said he was quoting a
Rasmussen poll. He then complained at how you won't see this poll quoted in the media. He also backed up his tirade saying this organization was one of the most accurate polling companies.

But he also quoted a CNN? poll that said only 13% percent felt Bush was responsible for the Katrina failures. As you know, there were many questions asked in that survey and over 40+ said Bush was not doing enough to fix things after the storm. But Limballs conveniently left that figure out.

Kinda makes you wonder what he left out ot the Rasmussen poll.:shrug:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:09 PM
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22. Lintball was lying.
Rasmussen has Bush dropping in the toilet too: 46% (not 48).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

I'm sure he's lying about CNN too. Given that polls generally show a low-mid 30's for his Katrina performance, 13% blaming him seems pretty far-fetched.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:56 PM
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16. Well, now they are finally in line with all the other polls.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:00 PM
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17. Poor * is being pummeled.
Funny, I don't feel bad about it at all either. :D
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:01 PM
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18. Gas at $6, Bush in the tank
It makes me almost want it. But not quite.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:12 PM
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23. I can't believe 40% still approve. What's it gonna take to convince...
the voices in their head that the Chimp AND his policies are complete failures.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:39 AM
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63. The Draft. n/t
:kick:
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 07:51 AM
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67. True.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:13 PM
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24. Typical DU thread on Bush approval ratings (satire)
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 03:13 PM by bluestateguy
OP: Bush approval at 40%

Replies:
1) Boo yah!
2) 40% are morans.
3) How can 40% of Americans still support this jerk-off.
5) It must really be like 32% because Gallup whores for Bush.
6) WTF?! 40% must like Kool-aid.
7) Bush is toast.
8) I was talking to my Repuke neighbor yesterday and even he was dissing Bush.
9) Bullshit! No way 40% still approves. I know NO ONE who likes him anymore.
10) Too little too late.
11) Fox News lists Bush at 49% approval. WTF?
12) Wait until Fitzgerald comes down with the Plame indictments!
13) Time for another terror alert.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:16 PM
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25. LOL
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:26 PM
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27. You forgot my response
Bwahahahahaha

:rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:45 PM
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36. Its Greed
They want there tax cuts.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:32 PM
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51. LOL! SO true! n/t
PB
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:20 PM
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26. They Polled Less People Than the # Killed By Katrina So Far n/t
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:54 PM
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38. Cheap-assed poll n/t
:freak:
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:29 PM
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29. That's pretty good for a liar, murderer, squanderer and cheater. nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:38 PM
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30. Well that phony speech in NO really helped, eh?
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corporatemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:50 PM
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33. The 40% are made up of the TWO R's and THE THREE B's...
The two R's:

The Rich
The Religious Nuts

The three B's:

The Brain damaged
The Brain dead
The Brain washed
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:36 PM
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35. This is what it should have been after 9/11, if people had been rational
Instead they supported the bastard who could have done something in the months preceeding it to prevent it.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:31 PM
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42. But he was such a great leader after 9/11
with such gems as:

You're either with us or against us.
They hate our freedom.
We'll smoke them out of their caves.

What happened to that great leader?

:sarcasm:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:50 PM
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37. Ha! "Gallup" Needs to Be Renamed to "Catchup".
How laughable: Gallup purposely tried to buck the trend of polling institutions who clearly have been putting Bush in the 30's for the last two weeks including Newsweek and now suddenly has Bush down where all the other pollsters have him mid to high thirties...and falling.

More laughable: Wolf Blitzer of CNN touting Gallup (Oopss, I call the Catchup now) as showing Bush "ticking upward, ticking upward".

Even Catchup and Faux news can't place George Bush in the 40's anymore.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:23 PM
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40. He's droppin like a rock now
This is long overdue. Hello McFly!! knock knock
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:36 PM
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43. At What Point does bush..........

At what level does bush resign??????
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:24 PM
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47. He wouldn't resign even if Iraq went "Tet"
Gas were $10/gal and the economy collapsed into depression. The mission he was given is to dismantle the New Deal programs and Medicare, polls and other circumstances mean nothing.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:26 PM
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44. "Hey! Was that an iceberg we just hit?" eom
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:08 PM
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46. What percent of the 40 are incapable of distinguishing between the
office and the current occupant of the office?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:59 PM
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49. How many times can his approval rating "plummet to 40%"?
I'm getting sick of reading the same story over and over.

How low is his approval rating, really?
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:31 PM
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69. Agreed...
... I assume every time I see it it must have been a new poll that hasn't been that low before. I hope it's not like this though:

9/1 40% <- generates DU posting
9/3 42%
9/6 39% <- generates DU posting
9/9 41%
9/13 40% <- generates DU posting

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that his numbers are low. It's just sounding like the old Chevy Chase Weekend Update skit where every week he announced "Generalísimo Francisco Franco is still dead!"
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:14 PM
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50. 40%??? This is proof that Americans are still idiots.
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a_rabbit Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:38 PM
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53. 51% NOT "strong and decisive", 50% NOT "honest and trustworthy"
For the first time, more Americans say that the labels "honest and trustworthy" and "a strong and decisive leader" do NOT apply to Dubya.

For "cares about the needs of people like you", 56% of Americans say they do NOT think this applies to Dubya.

When asked:

"Just your best guess, do you think George W. Bush has taken steps to help victims of Hurricane Katrina mostly because he sincerely cares about the victims, or mostly for political reasons?"

56% of Americans say "political reasons".
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a_rabbit Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:39 PM
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54. usatoday.com detailed link
Forgot to post the usatoday.com detailed link showing polling history:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/2005-09-19-poll.htm
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:10 PM
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55. I feel pitchforks and torches in the air!!!! Mmmmm BBQ pig.
Oink, oink you effin repiglicans! :evilgrin:

Gyre
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:37 PM
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57. Still sinking - with a bullet!
Try 30 or 35 percent - that's a lot closer to the truth.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:39 PM
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58. Polls mean NOTHING to them!
This administration is not working for the people and they could care less about what the people think.

They have a mission and they will accomplish their mission no matter what. Anyone who objects will be destroyed.

And when their mission is finished, The United States of America as a government of the people will be nothing but a footnote in history books.

This is what I firmly believe.

I think I'll go throw up now.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:51 PM
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59. Bush's disapproval rating now at record 58%
USA Today headline:
President hits new lows in polls
Bush's disapproval rating now at record 58%

http://www.usatoday.com/

Story:
President sinking in ratings

WASHINGTON — Americans' views of President Bush and his leadership have soured in the wake of dismay over the government's response to Hurricane Katrina, the course of the Iraq war and the future of the economy.
Bush's rating for handling each of those issues dropped to his lowest yet in a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday. Assessments of his personal qualities also fell: For the first time, a majority says he isn't a strong and decisive leader.
Bush's overall approval rating is 40%, equaling a previous low. His disapproval is 58%, a new high.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-19-bush-poll_x.htm

Poll results:
USA TODAY/CNN GALLUP POLL

http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/2005-09-19-poll.htm

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:51 PM
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60. And 40% approve while 2% are too stupid to render an opinion
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vajraroshana Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:52 AM
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64. Who are these 40% and how can they be reached?
What does it take? Really, what does it take? What horror is going to have to occur before they wake up?
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 01:35 PM
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76. That 40%
some are in their castles with a mote,others are in their ivory towers,with guarded.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:04 AM
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65. Amazing that 60% would disapprove of
"Our duly elected President of the United States of America, our Commander-in-Chief , sworn to protect the liberties and freedoms that each and every one of us enjoys in this great God given land". Which is probably something like how they phrased the question.

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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:49 PM
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75. "...except when it's Bill Clinton, who is Satan personified."
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:10 AM
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66. Inquiring minds want to know...
how could this turd have squandered his 'political capital' and Clinton's surplus budget in such a short time? LOL!!

This clown has frigged up everything he has touched his entire life.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 08:04 AM
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68. That''s 40% to much
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:34 PM
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71. Applying the Jack Rabbit Gallup Poll handicap . . .
Bush's approval ratings are about 34%.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:40 PM
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73. I don't see what it really matters....
... He can't run again, he won't resign and the GOP won't impeach him... UNLESS his policies start to hurt GOP Congressmen and Senators.

Those are the only polls that matter right?

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Blue Hen Buckeye Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 02:40 PM
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78. His numbers don't mean much, correct.
You have hit the nail on the head. Unless the unpopularity of
Bush costs the GOP big time in the 2006 or 2008 elections his poll numbers don't mean much. Only positive I can see is it will scrap a large portion of his warped legislative agenda.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:09 PM
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80. Good thing for them that the Imperial Subjects o Amerika don't have a vote
or say in selecting the next Emperor.

We will all traipse off, push a bunch of meaningless buttons and lo and behold, whoever THE PARTY selected to placehold the throne between Bush Emperors, will "win".
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:06 PM
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81. President sinking in ratings

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=44464

President sinking in ratings

WASHINGTON - Americans' views of President Bush and his leadership have soured in the wake of dismay over the government's response to Hurricane Katrina, the course of the Iraq war and the future of the economy.

...

"Bush stands at a precipice," says Carroll Doherty of the non-- - - partisan Pew Research Center. "He's lost ground among independents. He seems to be starting to lose ground among his own party. And he lost the Democrats a long time ago."

...

White House press secretary Scott McClellan says the president "knows a leader must govern based on what he believes is right, not based on polls." Bush is "working to address the priorities that Americans are most concerned about," he says.

...

By more than 4-to-1, Americans want an independent panel - not Congress - to investigate the government's response to Katrina.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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82. Hopefully it's an indictment for crony capitalism too.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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83. Do you hear the flushing sound?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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84. Bush is falling apart a lot sooner than expected...
or that I hoped for.

Now this must keep up till next fall and the Democrats need to take advantage of this. If things get really bad for Bush and the Dems do well we could see 240+ House Seats, 51+ Senate seats, 27+ Governorships, 55%+ of State Legislatures come to the Blue Side.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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86. Take the Senate and lock the gop out of Supreme Court appts.
That is the moment I am living for.

I suppose Governor candidates can beat the crap out of Bush on the war issue since congress members cannot seem to figure out how to do it.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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85. I love these headlines
:)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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87. Bush is in Free Fall and his Crew knows it....his masters know it too....
They are desperately trying to clean his act...but this time, the price of previous BS comes to bear...hardly anyone believes his spin anymore....

4 days of waiting for the Leader to even find out(so they say) the horrid conditions in NO is hardly believable...either he is not watching the news(I canardly believe that)...or, he let those poor peeps suffer on purps....

Throwing money at the prob has always been their way out...but this time, money is not the answer...it was Leadership...and in this case, sorely absent....
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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88. And Phamegate and DSM will not go away
if Bush looks like he is covering up for Rove and friend on treason, nobody will trust or believe him.
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adaada Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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89. They only listen to the polls when they're positive! Thanks for posting it
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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90. Limbo Time!
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 03:28 PM by Demeter
Remember the limbo dance and song? "Limbo lower now...how low can you go?"

When he gets down to 30%, that's only self-identitified Republicans; any less and his base evaporates!!!!

It's time the rest of the world got out of limbo, if you catch my drift.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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91. does bush believe in letting US cities be destroyed?
that seems to be the way bush governs.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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92. If bush believes in governing based on what he believes is right,
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 03:50 PM by Straight Shooter
and if what he believes is right is what the majority of Americans thinks is wrong, the logical conclusion is that bush thinks he is smarter than the rest of us.

And we know that ain't right!
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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93. Only 2% undecided? Wow.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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94. Too bad it's not September, 2004...isn't it?
Say what you will, the man has "lucky" timing.No matter if his ratings dip to 10%, he's still president until 2009 and can, by executive orderand recess appointments, create a lot more mayhem..
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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95. That standard line by McClellan is going to drive it down more
I think we have finally eclipsed the point where stubborness is a virtue with this asshole.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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96. Can someone tell me
what you do to get the text inside the box like the first post on this thread is in. Would appreciate. Thanks.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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98. sure

<div class="excerpt">your text</div>

replace the greater than less than symbols with brackets and replace "your text" with the item you are posting of course.

You can look this up at the time of posting by clicking on HTML lookup table.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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99. Here you go.
Edited on Tue Sep-20-05 04:54 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
Just use this with the word "text" being replaced
with your text. 

[div class="excerpt"]Text[/div]
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thecodewarrior Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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97. Who are the stupid people who think Bush is doing a good job?
I mean besides the Jesus freaks, militant thugs, war mongers, self latobomized hacks, early releases from the nut houses thinks he is doing OK?

How many cities need to be lost until he is doing a bad job?

3-5-10? The entire south?
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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104. welcome to the fun codewarrior
were glad youre here

btw - im a Jesus freak and have never - not once - supported this man
consistently felt he is as blasphemous as there ever was
nothing but religious propaganda meant only to control (straight out of the mind control handbook)
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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108. Scottie just put the tape (ans.loop) on and leave the podium
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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100. I have two repuke friends who still "support" Bush
but they have absolutely no idea why. I ask them to name one accomplishment for Bush in the last five years and they have nothing. I list all the failures, and they say nothing. I say "Worst president ever" and they try to mock me and say " yea right, worst president ever" but they got nothing...
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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103. but he's such a powerful and charismatic leader!
lmao.... :rofl:
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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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105. ... and so sexy and powerful with his sleeves rolled up...
I wonder if they have to call in makeup to get the sleeves rolled up just right... :banghead:
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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106. And has plenty of moral fiber too.
Or did he just decide to flush that down the toilet instead?
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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107. I know people like that, and you're right, they really don't have an....
...answer. Sometimes, they just shut down, and say, "I don't have to tell you why, because I just like him!" They are mentally lazy, and I guess it's easier than having to think.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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101. When you don't live in democracy and the elections are rigged...
What difference do the polls make.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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102. such a shame, such a shame....
teehee
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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109. A *majority* said he isn't a strong and decisive leader!?
That's huge. As much as we may disagree, that's where Bush ALWAYS had high marks with the general public.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:07 PM
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110. Reminds me of an old saying
"There is a turd in the punchbowl"
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 06:16 PM
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112. Up come Bill from de bottom flo'
Said de water wuz runnin' in de boiler do'.
Go back, Bill, an' shut yo' mouth,
Got forty-eight pumps to keep de water out!

DE TITANIC by Bessie Zaban, C.H. Currie, and Carl Sandburg
http://www.angelfire.com/yt/anneblair/lyrics12.htm

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