NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist

Anyone surprised by this should realize that the real surprise would have been Rummy letting them testify.


Peace.

BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.



MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481


Able Danger: Short Time-line
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4441903

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005


Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166800,00.html


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804




Condi in Middle of Able Danger ‘Cover Up’"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger “will shake the country to its roots."

...

If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Span’s Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


more...

http://www.theinternationalpost.com/z30082005.html

Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4500623


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1744982

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."

:hi:

i like this paragraph:
The Pentagon has said that it has interviewed three other people who were involved with Able Danger and who said that they, too, recalled the identification of Mr. Atta as a terrorist suspect. But Defense Department investigators said they could find no documentary evidence to back up the assertion; they acknowledged that much of the information might have been routinely destroyed.

maybe this will wake up the roosters in the fbi to cockadoodledoo

RIGHT to block Congressional Inquiry! Is the Pentagon a BRANCH of Government!

n/t

n/t

and ask them why they are cowtowing to the MILITARY!
Frigging COWARDS and Self-interested Fucktards!

BTW, the site still has the info posted as if it has not been cancelled:

Able Danger and Intelligence Information Sharing "
Senate Judiciary Committee
Full Committee


------------------------------------------------------------------------
DATE: September 21, 2005
TIME: 09:30 AM
ROOM: 226 Dirksen
OFFICIAL HEARING NOTICE / WITNESS LIST:



September 8, 2005

NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING
RESCHEDULED -- Wed., September 21, 2005 at 9:30 a.m.

The hearing on “Able Danger and Intelligence Information Sharing” scheduled by the Senate Committee on the Judiciary for Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at 9:30 a.m. in Room 226 of the Senate Dirksen Office Building has been rescheduled to take place on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at 9:30 a.m.

By order of the Chairman

-----------------------------------------------

Witness List

Hearing before the
Senate Judiciary Committee

on

“Able Danger and Intelligence Information Sharing”

Wednesday, September 21, 2005
9:30 a.m. Senate Dirksen Building, Room 226

PANEL I

The Honorable Curt Weldon
United States Representative

PANEL II

Mark Zaid, Esq.
Attorney at Law
Washington, DC

Erik Kleinsmith
former Army Major and
Chief of Intelligence of the Land Information Warfare Analysis LIWA
Project Manager for Intelligence Analytical Training
Lockheed Martin
Newington, VA

PANEL III

Gary Bald
Executive Assistant Director
National Security Branch
Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
Washington, DC

William Dugan
Acting Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Oversight
United States Department of Defense
Washington, DC

.... as a tool of Rummy, Rove, Neoconster, Inc.

We certainly, ALL, want to be asking him tomorrow. Just can't wait to hear how his staff folk respond to my call.


Peace.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM! Would this administration cover up Clinton's failure? HELL NO!

For those who don't trust Weldon, sure, but the fact that the Pentagon is basically telling us that this story is real by saying that the people involved are not allowed to talk about it before congress is evidence enough. Just forget Weldon.

... and the neoconsters all know that their embeds in the Pentagon managed to keep the info from Richard Clarke.

Had Clarke known of even the existence of "Able Danger", let alone that they had info on Atta, Clinton would have known within moments, and stuff would have happened -- including those neoconster embeds getting their butts kicked.


Peace.

Forget Weldon. He's just the guy the first whistleblowers went to. And yes, I doubt Rumsfeld would bother to cover Clinton's ass..

I read this last week and it barely registered on the radar, even here! An employee was to testify this week, per Weldon, that they were ordered to destroy a tetrabyte (?) of documents relating to Able Danger. A tetrabyte (or whatever it's called) is roughly the size of 1/4 of all documents in the Library of Congress.

Sooo.. all of the tin foilers out there, are you starting to think you're right about something shady with the 9/11 attacks? If the White House and Pentagon, et al, does not start answering questions, everyone is going to start wondering who knew what and when.

I've said from 9/12 on to today that it was an inside job. They did NOT just let it happen. They MADE it happen. It could not have happened without their active participation.

:kick:

Why do they care about "secrets" now?:eyes:

"To: taxesareforever
You are correct.

That was why Clinton was able to get away with all that he did. The Republicans are just as corrupt as the Democrats."

(From FR, not me!)

To: vadkins
No surprise here. The Bush administration doesn't want to say or do anything that would embarass Bill Clinton and company. How despicable.



7 posted on 09/20/2005 8:17:46 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)

Freepers will come up with nay assinine rationale (no matter how implausible) to avoid saying Bush is corrupt and incompetent. And when there's no rationale to excuse away his crimes they simply shrug and say, "I don't understand why Rumsfeld told them not to testify, or why Dubya disbanded Able-Danger, but they're Republicans, so I'm sure there's a reasonable explantion for all this. Bush wouldn't lie." Nice too see Geneal Honore (who has no honor by the way) isn't the only dipstick jackass moron "stuck on stupid."

What are they frantic to cover up?

Four words: The Saudi Royal Family.



26 posted on 09/20/2005 8:43:55 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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Count me out as a tinfoiler.

I think they're really concerned about security; they want to keep sensitive technology secret.

I really don't think they trying to cover up embarrassing information.


6 posted on 09/20/2005 8:16:53 PM PDT by JCEccles
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

the documents were destroyed in LATE Summer 2001.

And I have read that they were destroyed in Summer of 2000.

Why in the world would someone destroy them in the summer of 2000?

It doesn't make sense.

I heard this on fox last friday morning.

I have tried to find a transcript of the report, but have been unable to do so. If someone can find it, it was on fox (cable) between 9am and 12pm.

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DETERMINED TO ATTACK WITHIN AMERICA?

Those are the only options to anyone who has analyzed even the little information that exists in the public record.

...if that's even possible.

WTF is going on?

This Abel Danger tiger is out of the cage and will tear the criminal neocon conspiracy creature into pieces.

Impeachment next.

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=b900440df3aebb11

Defense Department lawyers have blocked members of a data-mining intelligence team from testifying Wednesday before a congressional committee probing their claims that they identified the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 hijackers more than a year before the attacks.

The Senate Committee on the Judiciary sought testimony from several members of the team -- code-named Able Danger -- as part of their investigation into claims that the project identified Mohamed Atta and three of the other 18 hijackers as linked to al-Qaida in early 2000, according to Senate staffers.

Mark Zaid, an attorney representing a liaison to the team, Army reserve Col. Tony Shaffer, told United Press International that a letter to his client gave no reasons for blocking the testimony.

The letter was signed by the principle deputy general counsel for the Defense Intelligence Agency, Robert Berry.
more...

Very Interesting!!!

There is nothing to stop any Senator on the committee from doing this. Its called sovereign immunity and there is nothing the executive branch can do about it.

Here are 3 emails of some reporters who have been asking tough question:

countdown@msnbc.com

360@cnn.com

aaron.brown@turner.com

"Trust us" just doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence in me. We'll see who is still buffaloed by these criminals.

these hearings about 3 days ahead of time.

They've been doing the exact same thing all along with the ACLU and new abuse photos hearings. 1 or 2 days before something is supposed to happen, they file a statement or refuse to comply or some such action.

Learn this lesson - schedule it, then MOVE IT UP before they can play their stall card.

I thought that was what I heard

....anticipate that a DoD lawyer would make that statement today and that Specter has even more reason to haul Rummy in and ask him, under oath, how he explains DoD legal opinion of Atta's status.


Peace.

never would have given way.

I think I want to vomit. I'm so sick of all the coverups and spin.

government could possibly be doing, then realize that in reality the government is doing things that are much worse than that. I believe that to be the truth. If people actually knew the things that our government is capable of doing and the things they are doing, widespread panic would prevail.

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When they say "no one could have predicted" it really means they didn't think the attacks would be so successful or damaging.

These fuckers should be in jail.

Bush protecting his Al Qaida henchmen.

One can only imagine the chat Rummy had with Dugan this afternoon ....

Gotcha, Rummy.


Peace.

Savage was really going on about this Wed eve.......

he was attacking Rumsfeld

of course, he had nasty things to say about dems....'tell Boxer and Feinsteitn to stop going on about abortion', etc

a few weeks ago he was talking as if this was all Clinton's fault......from the bit I heard last night, he was going after the present adm people; no negatives about W tho

Savage was furious cspan had it on 3 instead of 1; a caller said the hearing would replay on cspan 1 Wed night

Savage dislikes Specter and Biden......he said if they were both furious maybe the investigation would go somewhere