Casey Says U.S. Still Considering Troop Withdrawals Next Year

Yeah, that Bush Administration of tough, resolute people who take a position and stick with it like a rock.

:eyes: :sarcasm:

There will be many a gop sponsored parade.

The pull out will be fake Rove photo op, of course, but the confetti will be real.

(assuming they aren't all indicted by then)

Just have people paint some drawings of insurgents watching over a bunch of Yellow Dogs with tails between legs, dressed in U.S. Army Uniforms, leaving Iraq.

Watch how fast that "patriotic-victory" feeling dissipates as those posters force people to realize the truth: that they got their asses waxed by the insurgency.

I'm for historical accuracy, and for the U.S. to really have to be forced to reflect. I will maintain, with everyone I speak to, and if I ever teach, in my classes, that the U.S. lost the war. One way to prevent a future Iraqi conflict is to give it the fair assessment that Iraq did. We generally claim Vietnam was lost because most people had the guts to speak about how it was a defeat. I will do the same with Iraq. A defeat from day one.

until it's politically expedient to discard it.

Simply math, folks.

"As the Iraqis stand up, we stand down" - George Bush.

Instead of 3 battalions ready, only 1 battalion is ready to fight without U.S. support (a battalion is about 500-600 troops).

So, that means that, in theory, there were, at most, 1,800 Iraqi troops ready to fight without our help, which is a joke, after 2 years of working. And even that number was a lie, and it's now down to 600.

Meanwhile, why we try to build up a Security Force in Iraq (already infested, like in Vietnam, with enemy spies and insurgents), the insurgency has been calmly continuing its campaign, with 5,000-20,000 estimated membership.

I think what this reflects is:

1) if we want to win this war, it's gonna be a purely American affair.
2) It's clear the insurgents have more support than the U.S, because we can't even setup more than 500-600 soldiers willing to fight without us (and capable of doing so), while insurgents bomb the shit out of our tanks (and have been doing so) for 2 years now.

Folks, it's an unwinnable war, and we're not progressing. Wake up America!

...and the weeping.

While it is morally and economically necessary for the US to quit Iraq soon, I predict no political benefit for the Democrats.

Too complicit.

Hillary (assuming that poor nomination is made) is up to her nose in war collaboration, so neither she nor Congressional candidates will have much hope of making hay. At best, they'll advance the same non-starter of a technocratic complaint that Kerry did: we coulda fought it better!

Heh. As if.

Bush said there would be 200,000 trained Iraqi troops by the end of 2005. We better get shit hot on those other 199,500.

Consider this, Casey: We're over there forever.

better review the tapes of Saigon in 1975... something similar is in the works, and he, and his pals will not be happy...

a couple of nights ago. Reminded me of watching the carnage every night of the war there. Every thing about it pointed out how similar it was to the Iraq war. No difference.

MAY


I may win a million dollars tomorrow.

I don't listen to these boobs anylonger. They change their story so offen they should just have a multiple choice offer at the bottom of the screen.

A) we stay
B) we go
C)we stay for a little while then go
D)we go but leave a little
E)if someones pissed off, refer to A

bullshit. I want a hard-copy legislation that says clearly that the U.S. will withdraw before I believe it.