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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:57 PM
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Times reporter tried to cut earlier CIA leak deal
By Adam Entous 1 hour, 41 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - New York Times reporter Judith Miller tried a year ago to make a deal with the prosecutor investigating the leak of a
CIA operative's identity but the prosecutor would not agree then to limit her testimony to Vice President
Dick Cheney's top aide, her lawyer said on Sunday.

Some lawyers involved in the case said prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's decision to reject the deal a year ago -- only to agree last week to limit the scope of Miller's testimony to the subject of Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- suggested Libby may have become increasingly important to wrapping up Fitzgerald's case.

After spending 85 days in jail for refusing to name Libby as her source, Miller testified before the grand jury on Friday about two conversations she had with him in July 2003.

Lawyers said her testimony should clear the way for Fitzgerald later this month to conclude his 2-year-old inquiry into who leaked CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity and whether anyone broke the law in doing so, lawyers say.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051002/ts_nm/bush_leak_dc
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tainowarrior Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:07 PM
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1. so much for the principle of protecting sources
if she was willing to deal, she wasn't principled.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:12 PM
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2. "limit the scope of Miller's testimony" ??? !!!
what bullshit is that ? no really, what bullshit is that ? since when does anyone on the stand get to CHOOSE what they will testify about ?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:16 PM
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3. I thought Grand Juries were empowered to ask any question
they wanted to ask on any topic. I didn't realize that the GJ could be limited in this way. I must have been wrong...
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:25 PM
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6. recall that the lawyers massaging this "event" can say what they want.
it ain't necessarily true.

the so-called limitation might be for two audiences - libby-cheney AND her whore-bosses at the NYT.

i am more and more pissed at the NYT. They no longer break stories; they stomp on them and keep them out of print. What the hell has happened to a formerly great paper?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:26 AM
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23. Other reporters testified on the basis that their testimony would be
limited to certain areas. Cooper, Russert for example. Pincus testified without revealing his source (but he knew that Fitz already knew who the source was and had taken his testimony regarding their conversation).

So it's not at all implausible that the scope of inquiry/testimony for Miller was limited by agreement with Fitzgerald.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:25 PM
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7. If the prosecutor agreed to limit what he asked her about would that
also limit the questions the grand jurors could ask?

Matt Cooper said the jurors also questioned him - I believe they handed their questions to the prosecutor though.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:28 PM
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10. Fitz may have gotten all he needed elsewhere.
And just had to tie up loose ends on Scooter.

I don't think the Queen Of All Iraq got away with as much as she might think she did.

Call it a hunch.

-as
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:47 PM
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12. Oh, yeah!!!!
:woohoo:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:10 PM
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16. This is crap
Newsweek says Miller caved because Fitz threatened to impanel a new grand jury which would've kept her in jail a lot longer. There's a post on http://www.dailykos.com on this.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:42 PM
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39. You are generally correct. However, if the prosecutor had an agreement
with a witness as to which questions could be asked, I believe he would inform the grand jury that the witness did not have to answer certain questions.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:10 AM
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21. Other reporters made a similar deal with Fitzgerald to limit their
testimony to specific areas. They only get the deal if Fitz agrees to it.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:22 PM
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4. So who was it she didn't want to be questioned about? hmmm
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:28 PM
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9. Her boyfriend at the UN
I suppose.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:02 PM
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15. I think it's her boyfriend Dick
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 07:33 AM
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34. What questions could they have about her boyfriend's dick?
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GayCanuck Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:04 PM
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37. Why didn't the NY Times fire her?
I mean there is no journalistic integrity there at all.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:15 PM
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17. David Kelly probably
and her WMD bullshit.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:59 PM
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41. a question the rest of the Corporate Media should be asking but isn't
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:24 PM
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5. As if anyone could believe the skanky Ms. Miller would take a
stand on principle. :rofl:
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:27 PM
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8. Well, that doesn't sound right either.
The article says that Tate (Libby's lawyer) told Abrams (Miller's lawyer) a year ago that it was okay for Miller to testify although Libby's waiver had been "coerced" and that, as a result, Miller wouldn't (or couldn't) testify under canons of journalistic ethics.

Now, Miller is claiming that Fitz wouldn't agree to limit his interrogation of Miller to her contacts with Libby but, instead, Fitz intended to ask her about contacts with other sources who, presumably, had not given her waivers. This too strikes me as hokum. Reconcile this with Judge Hogan's opinion -- which states that Fitz knew who Miller's source was (i.e., Libby) and that that source had given Miller a waiver. Hogan said that under the circumstances Miller's refusal to testify was irrational. If Fitz was trying to get Miller to talk about her contacts with other sources, surely Hogan would have mentioned this in his opinion. I think this is bunk. All Fitz ever cared about were Miller's contacts with Libby. Miller just didn't want to talk. Period.

The only reason she's talking now is that she's sick of jail and was threatened with even more time.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:31 PM
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11. I read that it was limited to the Plame incident, not to just
Libby. She supposedly wanted to avoid testifying about her involvement leading up to the Iraq war.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:00 PM
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13. ,...as a co-conspirator?
:shrug:

While she didn't participate in the Plame game, she was a bullhorn for the WMD bullshit.

Hmmm.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:01 PM
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14. she is acting like someone protecting a mafia don
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:20 PM
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18. She acts like someone who is AFRAID.
I wish I had bookmarked the article some months
back that pointed that out.
Given what happens to people who get in the way
of these monsters, I would bet that she is in fear for her
life and that of her family and loved ones.
HOW did we get to this point in history people?
BHN
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:37 PM
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20. I'm thinking David Kelly and what the Plame outing was REALLY about--
covering up the Bush Cartel plot to plant WMDs in Iraq for Judith Miller to "find." (--a good guess at what it was that David Kelly knew--that Tony Blair was warned of, on July 7,2003 (Hutton report)--and that got Kelly killed three days after Plame was outed, and four days before Brewster Jennings was also outed, subsequent to the search of Kelly's office and computers).

That's what Miller doesn't want to testify about--their scheme to turn the Iraq nuke allegation into a "reality," and the foiling of that plan.

Why involve Bush, Cheney, Libby, Rove, Powell, Rice, Bolton and god knows who else--the whole gang, the entire regime--just to punish Joseph Wilson? Why contact at least SIX reporters in the space of a week, and circulate the Plame memo on AF-1, putting all the top Bushites at risk of treason charges, in a seeming panic to get her outed? Something more an stake here than a dissenting article.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:32 PM
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38. she made her bed.
she was dancing partners with Bushco and their killing spree in Iraq. Why wouldn't she understand what they are capable of?

Puh-lease.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:13 AM
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22. Unfortunately for her Fitz is experienced prosecuting the mob successfully
eom
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:21 PM
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19. I'm beginning to think she's an official distraction
In the military don't they call this "chaff"?

Either that or she's freaking nuts.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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24. Miller Attorney Says He Tried to Cut a Deal a Year Ago
Miller Attorney Says He Tried to Cut a Deal a Year Ago

By Adam Entous, Reuters

Published: October 02, 2005 10:00 PM ET

WASHINGTON New York Times reporter Judith Miller tried a year ago to make a deal with the prosecutor investigating the leak of a CIA operative's identity but the prosecutor would not agree then to limit her testimony to Vice President Dick Cheney's top aide, her lawyer said on Sunday.

Some lawyers involved in the case said prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's decision to reject the deal a year ago -- only to agree last week to limit the scope of Miller's testimony to the subject of Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- suggested Libby may have become increasingly important to wrapping up Fitzgerald's case.

snip

Floyd Abrams, one of Miller's lawyers, told CNN: "I tried to get a deal a year ago."

But Abrams said that when he spoke to Fitzgerald about it at the time, he would not agree to limit his questions "to assure that the only source he would effectively be asking about was Mr. Libby."

Fitzgerald's spokesman was not immediately available to comment on Abrams' account of the offer.

more
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001220211




More spin and intrigue.

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Robertwf Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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25. Hmm...interesting
Of course, the prosecutor can offer the best deal up front on a hard-nosed take-it-or-leave-it, in this case go-to-jail manner. Or he can wait patiently to see what else he can tease out of the witness. I think here he just wanted closure. Get her out of jail to testify and end the GJ's term.
There is still a lot more to this story--but we'll have to wait and see how long it takes to get it.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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26. It sounds to me that she wasn't waiting for permission from Scooter,
She was really waiting for a deal from Fitz. She only told people that she was going to jail to avoid devulging her source when really she went to jail to try to get a deal from Fitzgerald. Looks like she got it, too.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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27. Yeah, she waited him out. n/t
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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29. Maybe Fitz got most of what he needed from other sources....
...and didn't need as much from Miller as he thought he might a year ago. (OK, call me Pollyanna, but I insist on hoping for the best until the story comes out. )
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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28. Yeah, it seems Libby is only a tangential link
to why Miller wouldn't testify.

What IS she hiding? Cannot help it, I think Miller is a really dark, shady character. Something along the lines of a double-agent. So who does she Really work for? And why does the NYT support her while apologizing for her WMD stories?

This whole episode is very, very strange. We might find out that our "Liberal Media" is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Shadow Government.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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33. It's her attorney speaking.
Translation: "Judy Miller is the bestest person in the world."
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 07:58 PM
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43. Bob Bennett is the brother of Bill Bennett.
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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30. Its nice to know that they are just as confused as we are.
With her two lawyers contradicting each other no wonder!
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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31. I'm totally confused.
She first claims that she went to jail because Libby didn't give her an explicit waiver.
- his lawyer says he did
Then she testifies. Sources close to the Fitzgerald investigation (Fitzgerald himself?) say that her testimony was not isolated to Libby.
- now her lawyer is saying that it was isolated, and that this testimony was for all practical purposes the same testimony that she offered to give a year ago.

Her lawyer is throwing out all kinds of crap that is easy to verify as false. Is it possible that he's being kept in the dark?
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:33 AM
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32. It's the American People who are being kept in the dark.
This whole episode seems very weird to me. But I know that just because it seems weird to me, that DOESN'T mean that the 'players' don't know what they are doing.

Once again, the corporate-military-industrial-complex-media is leaving US and the U.S. out of the loop.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 08:18 AM
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35. So, what does she know that she still doesn't want to reveal?
Let's assume that Judy is part of a bigger espionage and disinformation operation run on behalf of a foreign government. Her job as a NYT reporter gave her great cover and some legal protection from having to testify.

If the above assumption is correct, U.S. intelligence and the FBI have likely known about it for a long time, but to prosecute her would require that they reveal what they know about other bigger fish in Judy's network. They're not ready to go after her handlers and the agency insiders yet.

The deal here in the Plame case, limiting her testimony, protects both sides.

This explanation makes sense to me. What do you think?
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:00 PM
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36. I saw David Brooks and I believe it was David Gregory and some
others in a round table the Sunday talk shows and a lady (can't remember her name) made the statement that the average Joe doesn't know who some of these people are in the government so one story might not make them stop and think, but if you add together the Delay indictment, the trouble that Frist is having and then the Plame all of these together can grab some attention. Also, David Brooks started out with the thing with Delay was no biggie, but the others in the group disagreed and then Brooks ended up saying something like Delay is a thug. I was speechless when I heard that!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:38 PM
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40. Here's where a little inside the beltway dirt is informative
Seriously. This is all you need to know about Plamegate.

1) Bob Novak took a call from someone inside the White House who tipped him off as to Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA agent.

2) Bob Novak's personal assistant is Kathleen Connolly. Kathleen takes all of Bob's calls.

3) Kathleen Connolly is Patrick Buchanan's sister.

4) Patrick Buchanan KNOWS that the culprit is Scooter Libby.

(See July 18, 2005 post on this page for a transcript of Buchanan's "question": http://www.struat.com/election/2005_07.html )
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 07:54 PM
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42. Maybe she didn't want to talk about Bolton? /nt
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