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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 04:45 AM
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Dafka - FBI: Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist Jobs
Despite all of the problems that Sibel Edmonds has cited on the FBI not having sufficient competent linguists to staff the FBI translation, it would appear that many Sephardic Jews that apply to the FBI for jobs in translation are being passed by. Implications are that there are some underlying criteria by management that not only ignores incompetence, and doesn't look hard enough at questionable potential spies like Melek Can Dickerson, but perhaps this same management is using ethnic and religious prejudices to keep out otherwise qualified (and potentially more trustworthy applicants). Being Jewish of course doeesn't mean one is necessarily more trustworthy (witeness those in the AIPAC scandal for example), but the author does have a point with numbers here that perhaps they are being ignored when they might be very qualified.

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http://www.dafka.org/NewsGen.asp?S=4&PageID=507

FBI REJECTED SEPHARDIC JEWS AS TRANSLATORS

WAR ON TERROR
FBI: Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs
Despite shortage, loyalty issues, bureau snubbed 90 N.Y. applicants


By Paul Sperry

Despite a shortage of Arabic translators, the FBI turned down applications for linguist jobs from nearly 100 Arabic-speaking Jews in New York following the World Trade Center attacks, WorldNetDaily has learned.

The FBI's New York office in October 2001 asked a local charity that works with Arab Jews to submit applications for the linguist jobs, which are crucial to anti-terrorism investigations.

But not one of the more than 90 applicants was hired, even though some had helped translate Arabic for Israeli radio and TV news stations and the Israeli army before coming to America, the charity's director says.

''We sent them a lot of people, and nobody made it to the finish line. Not one person was found eligible for these jobs, which is outrageous,'' said Doug Balin, director of the Sephardic Bikur Holim, a Jewish social-services agency in Brooklyn, N.Y.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 04:54 AM
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1. Don't mean to be rude, but after reading this, I understand why:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:05 AM
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3. Really. Would you like to explain it?
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 05:07 AM by aquart
Because it seems from where I sit that you agree with the assumption the FBI seems to be making that Jews can't be trusted.

Care to clarify?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:06 AM
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4. Gee, I would like to hear your justification that my assumption was
that Jews are traitors.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:11 AM
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6. My mistake.
That WASN'T your assumption? Yet you agreed with the FBI not hiring Jews as Arabic translators?

Because..........?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:17 AM
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8. Answer these questions for me:
Is everyone who has a potential conflict of interest ALSO a traitor?

Is political correctness in our best interest when it comes to a National Security issue?

Do we have reason to be cautious about selecting people in positions that involve translation of sensitive information? i.e. Sibel Edmond's testimony?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:01 AM
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2. They also fired all their gay arabic speakers.
Why they think a Jew or gay translating Arabic would be less trustworthy than a straight Muslim translating Arabic is anybody's guess.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:09 AM
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5. I, personally, believe the gay Arabic speaker was the best choice
for the job. Someone who is very familiar with the culture, but one who understands that he is relegated to its outside circles.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:11 AM
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7. I completely agree. Those firings were insane.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:21 AM
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9. I'd hope that we evaluate these folks AS individuals!
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 05:25 AM by calipendence
That we shouldn't try to just lump people together because of their religious or ethnic background, or their sexual orientation. I would like to think that we don't totally reject or encourage people just because they have a certain set of characteristics. More important is their history of trustworthiness, whether they pass lie detector tests, the competence and value they bring to the organization in understanding the languages and culture they are studying, etc. If we see statistics indicating that NONE of these people of a certain group are hired, then I wonder if we aren't keeping people out for reasons other than their evaluations as individuals.

Sibel Edmonds herself, as an ethnically Turkish American, may have had assumptions about her loyalties/background that got her hired, and also how she didn't follow that "formula" that got her fired (which seems to be indicated by the way she was treated by her direct line management there).

The 9/11 forum has labeled antiwar.com as anti-Israeli and hasn't taken many articles being posted there (even some that I question why they are being censored). I've not studied all of their articles to make an assessment in this fashion, but I've read quite a bit that I do like. On the other hand, if they do slant things against Israelis too much, they fall into the crowd that creates a problem sort of like what Dafka indicates here.

Bottom line is that we need all individuals, regardless of their backgrounds, religions, and cultures, that are competent and trustworthy and willing to work in those areas to come on board. I hope that we can make room for them when they are sorely needed.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 05:28 AM
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10. I understand your pollyanna view, and I wish we lived in that kind
of world. But the kind of world we REALLY live in, is the kind of world where Israel has actually spied on us, their ally; and where we need to be careful not to put pro-Israeli agents (i.e. Neo-cons) in positions where they have access to information that can be used to advance Israel's goals at our expense. THAT's the lesson of the Iraq War.
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