God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers-BBC exclusive

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President George W. Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.



In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.



Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"



Abu Mazen was at the same meeting and recounts how President Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."



The series charts the attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, from Bill Clinton's peace talks in 1999/2000 to Israel's withdrawal from Gaza last August.



Norma Percy, series producer of The 50 Years War (1998) returns, with producers Mark Anderson and Dan Edge, to tell the inside story of another seven years of crisis.



Presidents and Prime Ministers, their generals and ministers tell what happened behind closed doors as peace talks failed and the intifada exploded.



Israel and the Arabs: Elusive Peace - Mondays 10, 17 and 24 October, from 9.00 to 10.00pm on BBC TWO.

It is a face of valor, honesty, integrity and the face of a true countryman.

I agree its the best yet

not to arrogant.

The President needs a shrink.

told them to do it. At least they were before Reagan forced them out on the streets and allowed them to hold public office.

had a WORSE president? I mean, really WTF? Please GOD, Grease this turd!

"At the end of the session, Bush reportedly told the group, 'I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.'"

http://www.mennoweekly.org/AUGUST/08-02-04/BUSH08-02.html

Do you see a pattern here?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

of all the foolish, insane - yet there it is. we have an insane president who hears voices.

and cocaine, all put together. Delusions of divine inspiration. Very dangerous cocktail of beliefs, this.

"God told me to do it" - famous last words of mass murderers.O8) :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :evilfrown:

I recognize her. Wasn't she the lady who was mean to all those dalmations?
Then God said "Who the hell is that evil looking lady and what's with all the makeup?"

:eyes:

God tells people to drop bombs on civilians everday! :sarcasm:
Absolute FREAK!

... The chimp honestly believes he was chosen by God and that all of his (crazed, irresponsible, harebrained) are divinely inspired.

It is frightening, disgusting, (insert any) ... but, sadly true.

I have a recollection of him saying to someone that he only made the decision to go to war after deliberation and prayer.

I suppose I could be remembering one of my nightmares

he spoke to a higher father - or something like that. It was in an interview.

edit to add - "Did Mr. Bush ask his father for any advice? "I asked the president about this. And President Bush said, 'Well, no,' and then he got defensive about it," says Woodward. "Then he said something that really struck me. He said of his father, 'He is the wrong father to appeal to for advice. The wrong father to go to, to appeal to in terms of strength.' And then he said, 'There's a higher Father that I appeal to.'"

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/60minutes/main612067.shtml

It is the 60 Minutes interview with Woodward - where Powell says Cheney had a fever to go to war, Powell was despondent, etc.

Interesting to read through again.

Freaking looney tunes, if he thinks anyone buy his bushit anymore. The freak has an ego the size of Dallas, is all this amounts too. I don't buy his "religious" crap for one minute. It's as fake as he is and meant for a targeted audience and those zombies continue to fall for this crap time and again, just like sheep to slaughter.

It would fit in with the Foolish Fundie Fantasy of the End Times where Israel must control Jerusalem.

God.

:-(

He needs to check into St. Elizabeth's or the mental hygiene ward at Bethesda naval. Or maybe he already has and that's why we're seeing bizarre therapeutic drug reactions.

One of my relatives also hears from god through bizarre dreams. Such a person should not in any way be in charge of much of anything.

If God told me or you to kill the guy next door, and we did it and we stuck to the "God" story, we'd end up in the local psychiatric facility with our asses packed tight with thorazine suppositories.

So...why isn't Dear Leader in one?

to create chaos and suffering so that the "elite" can reap war profits obscenely via the entrenched Republican Culture of Corruption?

Based on careful examination of Bush's actual track record Vs. his propaganda, that's how I read this "moral" declaration.

no words...

I'm stunned.

What a freak!

What kind of God is this that kills and maimes (sp?) hundreds of thousands of people? A VERY, VERY sick God!

But then YAHWEH has always been a bit touchy, hasn't he? The Goddess said to just don't take him seriously and she'll calm him down later. He's even still trying to take credit for the inundation of the Black Sea. Calls it the Great Flood.

:scared:

Book of Revelation and Rapture fantasies lie in this direction.

Hopefully the guy with the football knows better than to give it to the divinely delusional one...

that god told them to kill their own kids, they end up on death row? Bush* should be impeached for insanity.

George W. Bush needs to be locked up in a rubber room. He's nuts.

And don't pardon anyone on your way out.

God told me to kick this up.

It was in Der Spiegel, and explicitly detailed as to Bush's putative Divine contact.

We are SOOOOOOOOO fucked.

ago I believe).

Damn shame this is happening in the age of Falwell, Dobson and Robertson: any other time they'd have a net over this guy in a New York minute.

he talking to! Certainly not mine. I thought HE (the real one) was compassionate, forgiving, peaceful. This is proof positive that Bu$h is certifiably nuts. OMG, I don't want him to be the leader of our country! I'm truly frightened.

Actually this is very disturbing stuff. Very megalomaniac.

Now they use it to fuck with him, and make him think God is talking to him.
They just have to make sure they don't use it again while he's eating pretzels, or riding his bike.

Suddenly everything is clearer now.
(visions of the movie 'real genius')
:freak: :freak: :freak: :freak: :freak:

"It IS God."

mikey_the_rat

that told him.

pull back the curtain? Well that explains Katrina. God told him to go read reports from NOAA, and he went back and read the story of Noah. Oh, hell, even if he had read Noah, it might have made some crack-brained sense.

And the God said, "Verily, I want you to give out no bid contracts to Halliburton."

http://www.mennoweekly.org/AUGUST/08-02-04/BUSH08-02.html


The man may not be fit to serve, but I thought that in 1999.

according to that article. I do agree that the following sounds really strange:
<snip>
At the end of the session, Bush reportedly told the group, “I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.”

It may partly be a matter of interpretation, even still, because there are many religious people who see God as motivating them, and that is not crazy. In his case, it may be a sort of megalomania, seeing himself as some sort of "chosen" person. Scary.

STILL, the article didn't get into Bush M.E. policies, which is what I was responding to. Don't get me wrong. I think that Bush has been a horrible disaster for our country. It was just in that one case, I guess I saw a potential silver lining...

that the god who speaks to him is Mars.

Jesus has been trying to reach the Shrub for years, but cannot get his calls past the White House switchboard.

"I am your GOD!"

week on BBC station. This is 3 days story they will be airing next week. Randi Rhodes is encuraging everyone to watch it!

I was on a tangent there, regarding a possible positive outcome of his overly-religous way of speaking in talks with the Palestinians, which, as I listen again to his terrorism speech, was probably a sad case of wishful thinking.

And maybe it's the reason for President Potty Stop's moving his "major" speech from this evening to this morning.

:headbang:
rocknation

I think it qualifies as news.

See the links from the search in post #18 - Israeli papers reported this in 2003, quoting Abu Mazen. This may be the first time a second Palestinian politician has confirmed this (I don't know), but the basic story was around before.

;)

god needs to make things appear written in stone again. That would help.

wow.

:puke:

will see nothing bizarre in this!

:evilgrin:

Knuckle-head!!!!

God, please tell him to ride his bike off an escarpment.

Folks, this man is going to get us all killed. He is crazy and the democrats in office are just letting him get away with everything he wants. Time to clean house, they all have to.

First he tells this to a group of Quakers and now to the Pakistanis? or which came first?

Un-freaking-real.........

who wants his creations to exact vengeance and wreak havoc on their "enemies" . . .

to others, God is a loving, peaceful, compassionate being who wants nothing but good things for ALL his children . . . and can't understand why some of them NEED enemies to function . . .

the God I know would NEVER command anyone to start a war . . .

I don't have a problem with God talking to Bush . . . the fact that Bush actually HEARS him, and believes that he wants him to attack another country, disturbs me greatly . . .

of the people. From the "lord", thru *, to the sinner. ARGH!!!!!!!

Maybe this will make a few people wake the fuck up. Separation of church and state and all that. And the fact that he's hallucinating.

Double fuck. I can't put how much this depresses me into words.

:wtf:

God "told" him to make WAR?! Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. :sarcasm:

God. mucho :sarcasm:

Iraqis who were later set free because they were innocent? This is a very dangerous, very psychotic man. He needs to be impeached ASAP, because he is clearly unfit to serve as president.

And with Junior, it's superduperstition.

...and widely discussed on these boards.

Granted the MSM let it lie there like a dead cat, but in progressive circles it was widely known. I think the story originally was in the Israeli paper Ha'aretz.

The climate for its circulation may be more favorable now than then...

Did He somehow not know what was going to happen? Is the current mess God's desired outcome? What kind of god is God, anyway?

How could anyone possibly fall for such hooey?

To say you are hearing voices from God telling you to do things sounds absolutely insane to most Western ears. If it were a poor, homeless person saying this, he/she would probably be promptly locked up for evaluation. However, there may be more going on.

I'm thinking about one of al Qaida's major objections to Western culture: that it is totally corrupt and godless. Bush may be trying to convince the Arab participants in this meeting of his sincerity and get them to see him as a fellow man of God. Remember that these men are Muslims and take God quite seriously. What do these statements sound like to a Muslim ear? Do they give Bush greater credibility?

<snip>
And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

Whatever one believes about his religious beliefs, it's certainly possible to see the above statement as positive. It is a BIG step for a President to even be talking about a Palestinian state. And now with his dismal showing in the polls, it is also possible that his position will become increasingly like that of Nixon vis a vis China: he will be doubly motivated to achieve peace as a last shred of a Presidential legacy to leave for history.

Whether his efforts will have any effect is a completely different question, as it appears that he has little understanding of the history of the ME. And as far as God telling him to invade ANY country, I agree fully with the rest of the posters in this thread.

The man is absolutely bat-shit crazy.

:crazy:

eom

now, when the man claims 'god' told him to go to war 'for' god's benefit, we all need to really question the sanity of the man that sits in the drivers seat of this nation-

Even 'conservitives' would have to think this is just plain nuts-

As a spiritual person, I have had ...'promptings'?... nudges?.. gut instincts that have motivated me to do things that might not make sense to others, and that I can't justify or explain, but I would NEVER presume to act on those, when it would involve the welfare, and lives of others- nevermind millions of people, and the world at large.

Son of sam ? Andrea Yates? all sorts of minds that did great harm claiming 'god told me to do this' jump out at me- this should horrify his 'base'.

If they would bother to listen- and then even more unlikely ACT-

:crazy:

:scared:

why does this POS get away with this stuff.

"Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?"

"We are facing a radical ideology with immeasurable objectives to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world," Bush said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051006/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_iraq_8;_ylt=AngrErdj5ISyILhH1f9CtW1qP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

How true...how absolutely true...religious "Christian" extremists are trying to take over our great country and the world.

:crazy:

run our country.

Secret and Ties
GOP Leaders' Pledge Loyalty to the Religious Right's Agenda at Secret Meetings with the Family Research Council and the Council for National Policy
http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=59

Articles On the Rise of Dominionism in America
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/DirectoryRiseOfDominionismInAmerica.html

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

The Crusaders
A powerful faction of religious and political conservatives is waging a latter-day counterreformation, battling widespread efforts to liberalize the American Catholic Church. And it has the clout and the connections to succeed.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2003/11/02/the_crusaders/

GOD AND COUNTRY
A college that trains young Christians to be politicians.
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050627fa_fact

and the safety of others... and get some much needed therapy?

Perhaps I'm a wet blanket, but some of the best work of progressive liberals in the last 65 years has gone into de-stymatizing mental illness. I know we all love to villefy Bush, and what he's describing does sound delusional. Nevertheless, there are lots of functioning people in your state and mine who hear voices and have other pscyhotic features who still function.

Don't throw out the baby with the bath water, ( in this case that would be respct for people with mental health disorders) .

and you are being a wet blanket, but you are doing so for a good reason - mental illness is no laughing matter. Certainly those who claim a God (or Satan, for that matter) speaks to them and tells them to "do it" are mentally ill.

However, I don't love to vilify Shrub - he vilifies himself by his words and his deeds. Commenting on his words and deeds is not vilification. Since to "vilify" means to slander...and slander means to speak falsely

Thanks for your response. It's nice to feel like such communication is possible!

And my hat is off to you for your point about Bush villifying himself. ( I always think of it as making someone a villian) He does, he certainly does do that. A creepy guy with thugs for friends and way too much power for all of them!

WTF has happened to this country?

Too bad the article doesn't contain the part where the Palestiniam ministers broke out into loud, uncontrollable laughter - then began shedding torrents of tears as they realized the absurdity we the American people have imposed on the entire planet.

George Bush, are a fucking idiot.

:crazy:

Now watch this drive!

He really is criminally insane.

</jello_biafra>

bat shit crazy!:hide:

We have another 'son of sam' on our hands.

He doesn't have a history of truthfulness.

This IS a load.

I think that Shrub simply used the evangelical wack jobs to do what his drunk ass couldn't.

He had an awakening alright. A light bulb went off in his head and he saw what most people with a soul would NEVER think off ... the revelation of how to use religion to meet a political end.

If you don't believe in God, and if you have no regard for people that do, then you're free to use religion as a tool to get what you couldn't get otherwise.

When Shrub had "quit" drinking, became born again, and was buddying up to the other evangelicals -- singing hymns and reciting passages from the bible; Shrub was essentially attending a self-help class, but he was learning a lot less about God and a lot more about how the belief in God can manipulate the masses. He saw blind faith first hand ... filled with hate and anger after lOSING his bid for Congress, it hit him like a freight train ... "I could use these poor bastards."

He went against his father's beliefs. He discontinued trying to find the center and went to the far Christian Right, which without true belief in God and following the words of Jesus Christ, has resulted in the creation of the Christian Reich.

This guy is now surrounded by other neocons that recognized his capabilities and unlimited, boundless, and unabridged use of religion to meet a political end. This, combined with his family tree of power and wealth, created endless possibilities for control.

Meet the George W. Bush monster. A souless creation of genetics and religious manipulation set fourth on the democratic experiment known as America.

Don't pray to God, wake up. Tell a friend. Be a REAL patriot and give the gift of the truth to anyone that wants to see reality.

And this guy's got his finger on the nuke button? :scared:

Hey, imo any God you cant hear from aint worth worshipping!

What do you mean,
"I don't believe in God"?
I talk to him everyday.
What do you mean,
"I don't support your system"?
I go to court when I have to.
What do you mean,
"I can't get to work on time"?
I got nothing better to do.
And, what do you mean,
"I don't pay my bills"?
Why do you think I'm broke? Huh?

If there is the new way,
I'll be the first in line.
But, it better work this time.

What do you mean,
"I hurt your feelings"?
I didn't know you had any feelings.
What do you mean,
"I ain't kind"?
I'm just not your kind.
What do you mean,
"I couldn't be president of the U.S.A."?
Tell me something, it's still

"We the people,"right?

Can you put a prise on peace?

That God spured the destruction of Sodom and Gemorah and instructed the Jews to kill every living thing in that city, including women, children and babies. In Egypt that God killed the 1st born of every Egyptian. The OT is filled with stories of this God being a viscious killer. I guess it must be that God that the Silverspoon Sociopath gets messages from.

Google "God of War in Old Testament" . There are plenty of articles about that.

In the Old Testament there is so much war and violence sanctioned by Yahweh. Is this the same loving God portrayed in the New Testament?
In the Old Testament there is so much war and violence sanctioned by Yahweh. Is this the same loving God portrayed in the New Testament? Let's take this seriously by quoting a few verses that seem repugnant to us. For example, Deuteronomy 20 contains Yahweh's instructions about war. If a city does not accept Israel's offer of peace and open its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it"(verse13). With regard to other cities, the command is (verse 16), "Do not leave anything that breathes."

You probably also recall that the walls of Jericho came tumbling down, and then the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it - men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"(Joshua 6:21). This certainly seems brutal and vindictive, doesn't it? Or consider Joshua 11:20, "For it was the Lord himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the Lord had commanded Moses." From our twenty-first century point of view, we ask, "What good was accomplished by all this annihilation?"

http://www.ibs.org/bibles/about/9.php

As usual.

I attributed them to a mythological figure known as Gawd. Killin' is fun ya know :D

bush is full of crap.

She told me that bush is talking to a minor demon that is just a part of bush's own twisted ego.

That's a new one to me.

God told me to nuke the entire planet. Especially those dogless heathen A-rabs. And then I smote them to smithereens. GWB.

:-)

maybe i can sell it to the government.

clear out all the SIN in the world."

:crazy:

told me to pronounce it nukuler.

and Al-Qaeda already believe were a nation of Infidels and it seems they are willing to kill every Iraqi citizen to get us out of their country. Then Dubya throws his "Christian" god in their face. Smart move.

Its either Cheney or Rove on the other end and the idiot thinks it is God speaking.

they're ready for one of these:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051006/ts_alt_afp/mideastbritainusiraq_051006214432

2 hours, 45 minutes ago

LONDON (AFP) - US
President George W. Bush allegedly said God told him to invade
Iraq and
Afghanistan, a new BBC documentary will reveal, according to details.

Bush made the claim when he met Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas and then foreign minister Nabil Shaath in June 2003, the ministers told the documentary series to be broadcast in Britain later this month.

The US leader also told them he had been ordered by God to create a Palestinian state, the ministers said.

Shaath, now the Palestinian information minister, said: "
President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God.

'God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'.'

"And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq...' And I did.

"'And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God I'm gonna do it'," said Shaath.

... now!

:nopity:

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OMG, he is more batshit crazy than we thought. What a loon.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051006/ts_alt_afp/mideastbritainusiraq_051006214432

GDoyle

THIS is why we need separation of church and state.

;)

Bush: God told me to invade Iraq
President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians.

The President made the assertion during his first meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003, according to a BBC series which will be broadcast this month.

The revelation comes after Mr Bush launched an impassioned attack yesterday in Washington on Islamic militants, likening their ideology to that of Communism, and accusing them of seeking to "enslave whole nations" and set up a radical Islamic empire "that spans from Spain to Indonesia". In the programmeElusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, which starts on Monday, the former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."

And "now again", Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me: 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article317805.ece
:crazy:

"This is glue, strong stuff"

have return to me as TWO THIEVES (W and Dick)

appropriate image to insert in this thread?

I can understand this from Jake and Elwood... but the President of the United States?:crazy:

who have been warning us for ages? Bush has severe personality disorder, polysubstance abuse, and is delusional. And that is just for starters.

when he's sleeping?

"Hi w, God here. Go to Afghanistan, go to Iraq. This is God, w. Now you listen to me."

"In a talk honoring the William F. Buckley and the National Review today, George W. Bush said that "sometimes it's hard to be a leader because you hear all kinds of voices."

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html?blog=/politics/war_room/2005/10/06/bush2/index.html?x

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Seriously folks, any religious person, any flavor that can prove they are in communication with the Almighty wins a kewpie doll. And if you can't, then shut the fuck up. I don't believe it and don't want to hear it.

:spank:

Then again, poor * when he meets-up w/GOD!

POCTUS can't think straight without :beer: & his brains in deep $hit.

Hey George!

YOU'RE FUCKING CRAZY!

God didn't elect you, and neither did America.

AL GORE GOT MORE VOTES.

The fact that you're in OUR White House has to do with your CRIMINAL FRIENDS, not any "God"!

Protest sign seen at recent anti-war demonstration in San Francisco.

Although, to be honest, this isn't the first time. Captain Crotchsock made the same "God told me to invade Afghanistan and Iraq" pronouncement to Arab leaders before. I guess he thinks it should be comforting to them to think he is trying to follow God's directives ("even if he's not a Muslim, he's a God-fearing man"). What he fails to realize is that the conventional wisdom in Arab lands is that western Christian leaders are always claiming to be "following God's will"...when that will usually involves conquering and colonizing Muslim lands. In other words, what sounds to Chimpy like a conciliatory statement will generally sound to Arabs like the start of another Crusade.

The one new wrinkle here is God telling Bush to create a Palestinian state. I'll bet that isn't going to sit too well with his fundie supporters, who are convinced every inch of the "holy land" must remain under Israeli control so that Armageddon can take place and Jesus can return in glory in the near future. :eyes:

George Bush: "God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq"

This article is making the rounds today and even if it is a re-run of an old Haaretz article this is having an impact as we speak.

The news that Bush (leader of the free world) is talking to god is absolutely revolting to the secular Europeans who believes in strict separation of church and state.

The WH denial will only fuel the media hype.

This guy is nuttier than squirrel shit.

Doesn't mean it can stand up in a court of law...

I don't know her website by heart. An EDITED attempt:
http://www.wamu.org/programs/dr/

During her Friday 10 AM show, somewhere, she said that the WH had had no comment, then changed nc to and outright denial of this story via Scotty Mc.

The Florida Baker Act
In a nutshell, if a person is believed to be mentally ill and a hazard to themselves and others, they can be taken to a mental health facility and screened.

He is sure to visit Jeb sometime.


"A person believed to have a mental illness and meeting the criteria for involuntary examination who has refused voluntary examination or who is unable to determine that an examination is needed after a full explanation of the purpose of the examination is provided, may be transported to a receiving facility designed for psychiatric involuntary evaluation and short-term treatment.

There must be reason to believe that without such treatment, the person is likely to suffer from self-neglect posing a real and present threat of substantial harm to the person’s well-being that can’t be avoided through the help of willing family members or friends or the provision of other services.


In the alternative, there must be a substantial likelihood that without care or treatment the person will cause serious bodily harm to himself or herself or others in the near future as evidenced by recent behavior."


Surely, having control over the military and our nuclear arsenal, and showing signs of either delusions of grandeur or schizophrenia, this would make him an ideal candidate for the Baker Act.

And to bomb abortion clinics and to burn witches? That should be disallowed as any kind of defense or rationale.

Palestinians in 2003 -- I think it ran in an Israeli paper.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11243 see middle to end of article


and

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/industry/top100.htm

Carlyle got 1.4 billion from the US for defense last year.


my point, since Bush is playing with these kind of people, maybe he actually does believe in blowing us to kingdom come -hence God wants to end us and he's helping.

GOD?????????????????????

How about facts and reality??????????????????????????????????????

Bush is a sick ...very sick President!