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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:03 AM
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Bush: 10 Al-Qaida Attacks Stopped (3 foiled attempts inside US)
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 11:00 AM by sabra

http://www.wjactv.com/news/5064741/detail.html

Bush: 10 Al-Qaida Attacks Stopped
3 Foiled Attacks Aimed Inside U.S.


WHITE HOUSE -- President George W. Bush says the United States and its partners have disrupted at least 10 al-Qaida plots since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, including three planned for inside the U.S.

Bush delivered what the White House called a "major" speech on the war on terror and how Iraq fits into the struggle.

Bush compared the war on terrorism to the struggle against communism. He also said there can be no negotiating with terrorists.

"No act of ours invited the rage of the killers and no concession or appeasement will change or limit their plans for murder," Bush said.




from the WH:


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051006-2.html

Fact Sheet: President Bush Remarks on the War on Terror

President Bush Remarks On The War On Terror

The Strategy To Win

The President Outlined The Strategy To Win The War On Terror. Defeating a broad and adaptive network requires patience, constant pressure, and strong partners. Working with these partners, the U.S. is disrupting militant conspiracies, destroying their ability to make war, and giving millions a hopeful alternative to resentment and violence.

First, We Are Preventing Terrorist Attacks Before They Occur. We are reorganizing government for a broad and coordinated homeland defense, reforming intelligence agencies for the difficult task of tracking enemy activity, and acting, along with governments from many countries, to destroy the terrorist networks and incapacitate their leaders. We have prevented terrorist plots and Al-Qaida efforts to case targets in the United States. Because of strikes against terrorist leaders and disruption of their plots, the enemy is wounded but still capable of deadly operations around the globe. Our commitment is clear: we will not relent until the organized international terror networks are exposed and broken and their leaders held to account for their acts of murder.

Second, We Are Denying Weapons Of Mass Destruction To Outlaw Regimes And Their Terrorist Allies. Working with Great Britain, Pakistan, and other nations, we shut down A.Q. Khan's black-market operation in nuclear technology. Libya abandoned its chemical and nuclear weapons programs, as well as its long-range ballistic missiles. In the last year, America and our partners in the Proliferation Security Initiative have stopped more than a dozen shipments of suspect weapons technology - including equipment for Iran's ballistic missile programs. This progress has reduced the danger, but not removed it. Evil men still work to gain these weapons, and we are working urgently to keep them out of their hands.

Third, We Are Determined To Deny Radical Groups The Support And Sanctuary Of Outlaw Regimes. State sponsors like Syria and Iran have a long history of collaboration with terrorists - and they deserve no patience from the victims of terror. The United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support and harbor terrorists, because they are equally guilty of murder.



from the transcript:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/administration/bushtext_100605.html

BUSH: Overall, the United States and our partners have disrupted at least 10 serious Al Qaida terrorist plots since September the 11th, including three Al Qaida plots to attack inside the United States. We've stopped at least five more Al Qaida efforts to case targets in the United States or infiltrate operatives into our country.

Because of the steady progress, the enemy is wounded. But the enemy is still capable of global operations.


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tompayne1 Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:04 AM
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1. if you mean by stopping three attacks within our borders
arresting lots of random musilims you would be right.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:06 AM
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5. I hope the news media looks into the details of these 3 stopped attachs.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:08 AM
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8. Yes, what were the names of those arrested? Where were they arrested?
Are they foreign nationals or US citizens? Are they now charged with any crimes? If so, what crimes? What evidence do we have that the suspects were guilty of any attempts at carrying out terroristic attacks in the United States?

Please, be specific, Mr. "President".
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:12 PM
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56. They stopped Abu Salam from FARTING in Hoboken a year ago.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:11 AM
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11. I think we can trust our Media to investigate this fully.....
:sarcasm:


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:13 AM
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14. 'investigating' to them means inserting the biggy into a headline.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:14 AM
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16. We should all flood MSM with emails/calls about why they failed
to 'report' this. The more they think they'll lose ratings and that it's ShrubCo's fault, the more they are likely to investigate to re-gain (cough, cough) their credibility.
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tompayne1 Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:41 AM
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30. MSM???
pardon my ignorance.
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M155Y_A1CH Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:52 PM
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52. MSM=Main stream media n/t
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:45 AM
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33. You know you'd get the usual lines..


We can't because of national security

OR

There is an ongoing investigation so we can't discuss it...

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:57 AM
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39. you mean they got caught don't you and not Al Q
did he include trying to blow up the Chicago subway?
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:27 AM
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24. These clowns make arrests
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:29 AM by Brundle_Fly
on large groups of supposed militants, and announce it like crazy, as if they would be able to stop themselves if they actually did stop some attacks

They would have it all over the damned news and be making all the pat on the back speeches ad-finitum.

this is plausible deniability at it's worst, and it is a standard of the shrub admin.

edit for anger typing errors
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:05 AM
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2. so this is the 'new' information?--designed to convince us all that the
terror war is going well.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:06 AM
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6. he just throws that number out there, with no backing what so ever...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:06 AM
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46. How about those 80 Iraqi Battalions?
WTF?

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strizi64 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:05 AM
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3. proof it, *'s a lier n/t
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:06 AM
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4. To Late to Use that Line *
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:07 AM
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7. I imagine we have already heard of these.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:08 AM
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9. I call BULLSHIT on w..if he says
it then it's a big fat ugly LIE. That's all the jerkoff knows how to do.

Jon Stewart gives a good impression of *..they play *'s clips and Jon comes on afterwards and says what * really means ..imitating that stupid way he talks.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:08 AM
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10. this news headline is exactly what the WH wants from this speech. crap!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:12 AM
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12. Unfortunately-the move to compare with communism will get him points.


....Bush compared the war on terrorism to the struggle against communism. He also said there can be no negotiating with terrorists.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:14 AM
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17. They've BEEN negotiating with terrorists all along
wrt the Iraq government.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:13 AM
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13. Let's see: the Millenium Plot; Jose Padilla, and what's the third?
The paintball killers in Virginia, or the treetrunk shooters in Oregon?

I'd hope that with all those billions of dollars and tens of thousands of employees and contractors, that they'd stop someone, somewhere.

Oh, ya, they caught the McMansion arsonists in Maryland. But, those terrorists were white guys with shaved heads who don't like expensive, minority-owned gated communities in their neck of the woods.

What exactly is DHS doing, anyway, Mr. Chertoff?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #13
18. was it something to do with the LA airport?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:18 AM
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20. That was the Millenium Plot. Caught the guy as he was coming across
the Canadian border, planning to blow up LAX - happened under Clinton's watch.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:31 AM
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29. Wait! Maybe he's talking about the anthrax murderers!!
Oh. They didn't?

Never mind.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:54 AM
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37. There haven't been any attacks thwarted, this is utter and complete bull
shit.

Padilla hasn't even been charged with anything, and to pretend to rely on the words of sheepherders that have been locked up in cuba for 4 years is mindless.

There have been no attempts made on the USA. 911 wasn't even al queda. No one has ever claimed credit for it. OBL denied all involvement and said he merely knew about it.

There have been no terror attempts on the USA in this century.
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Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:13 AM
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15. Dumb of him to say
It pretty much undermines his "We're fightin' them there so we don't hafta fight them here" line. If they're here, we don't need to be there!

Moran
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #15
19. good one. but recall they were 'foiled'
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:18 AM
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21. Perfect point.
That is the answer to this bullshit. Email media on this. If the reason they aren't attacking us here, is because we are fighting them there, then how are they planning attacks here, that we claim we are stopping??? And by the way, big investigative reporters, what terrorist activity/plans/acts did we specifically stop? Who was responsible? Where are they now? Get answers, don't just repeat messages.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:23 AM
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22. I wonder if the "dirty bomber" counts as a plot
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:25 AM
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23. AP story up now: Bush: Militants Seek to Intimidate World


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bush_iraq;_ylt=Aqn7kV6EXTNeoCxbVmnfA06s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--


Bush: Militants Seek to Intimidate World


By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer 28 minutes ago

WASHINGTON -
President Bush accused Islamic militants on Thursday of seeking to "enslave whole nations and intimidate the world" and charged they have made
Iraq their main front.

"The militants believe that controlling one country will rally the Muslim masses, enabling them to overthrow all moderate governments in the region and establish a radical Islamic empire that spans from Spain to Indonesia," Bush said. The president has been stepping up his defense of his Iraq policy in the face of declining public support for the war and a crucial test in Iraq with the Oct. 15 constitutional referendum.


....Countering claims that the U.S. military presence in Iraq is fueling radicalism, Bush noted that American troops were not there on Sept. 11, 2001. He said Russia did not support the military action in Iraq, yet a terrorist attack in Beslan, Russia, left more than 300 schoolchildren dead in 2004.

"The terrorists regard Iraq as the central front in the war against humanity. And we must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war on terror," he said.......



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #23
25. this story does not tell us what are 3 foiled attempts in the US either.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:30 AM
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28. added link to the WH fact sheet, obviously no details.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. Wouldn't details help public awareness....
you know how DHS tells us to keep our ears and eyes open for terrorist behavior?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:00 AM
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42. added transcript quote, still no details...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #22
34. Jose 'lifetime detention w/out trial" Padilla.
We can thank Judge Roberts for that decision. Padilla is a US Citizen, and they continue to hold him even though, seemingly, they lack sufficient evidence to take him to trial.

Or, maybe, because the * Administration sees him as test case for future indefinite detentions of anyone thay care to classify as a terrorist.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:30 AM
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26. "No act of ours invited the rage of the killers..."
WHA? :shrug:
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The Roux Comes First Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #26
40. Our hands are certainly well-scrubbed
Yeah right. Everyone is just ducky with de facto US occupation of large chunks of the Mid-East and shoring up of proxy regimes on the Saudi Arabian peninsula.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:30 AM
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27. well, from their history of 'creative license'
like say, calling some cleaning products in a janitors closet a 'chemical warfare lab' (see: 'truths from these podia') and other mountains out of mole hills, i see no reason to think this will be any different. remember those air france flights they turned away ? could be something like that. a PLOT ! !
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:44 AM
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32. The Busheviks lie like Soviets
Remember WMDs, Jessica Lynch, Pat Tillman, and all the other HUNDREDS of lies they've told.

They are lying now.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:47 AM
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35. Efforts to case targets?
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:56 AM by ET Awful
What, you arrested brown people for taking pictures of landmarks?

Maybe somebody like this student? http://69.93.170.43/
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:54 AM
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36. shades of McCarthy
he was good at throwing out random numbers and offering up no specifics.

Ya think Bush* saw an early screening of Good Night Good Luck?

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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:54 AM
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38. Here's a whopper.
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 10:58 AM by onager
He said Russia did not support the military action in Iraq, yet a terrorist attack in Beslan, Russia, left more than 300 schoolchildren dead in 2004.

WTF? That's even dumber than connecting Iraq to 9/11.

It was Chechnyan terrorists who attacked the Beslan school. As every news outlet in the world reported at the time, they demanded that Russia pull its troops out of Chechnya. IIRC, Iraq and the U.S. weren't even mentioned.

Did anyone in our complacent, lickspittle media bother to point this out?

Never mind, I'm pretty sure I know the answer.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:57 AM
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41. Another Bu#$%it PLOY to keep the masses in check..
frightened and ignorant to Everything ELSE that is going WRONG with OUR country /Government.IMO
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #41
43. the sheep soak it all up - just keep them in fear
Bush is an utter fool telling the public that his administration is doing well at catching terrorists (did he include getting his patsys caught for trying to blow up the Chicago subway?)
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:03 AM
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44. "No act of ours invited the rage of the killers "
Hmmm I wonder why they fought so hard to keep the torture pictures from the public....Do I smell contradiction?
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:04 AM
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45. Assuming (ahem) he's telling the truth...
Ooooh, they actually did their job....ooooh, no Arabian horse experts involved in that at least.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:22 AM
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47. No wonder he didn't give this speech in prime time.
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 11:26 AM by rocknation
It's as recycled as a Madonna tour. And it should send his ratings right into the stratosphere!

:headbang:
rocknation
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CGrantt57 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:29 AM
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48. But....
He* lies.

You KNOW he* lies.

:eyes:

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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:33 AM
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49. If he can claim there are 80 Iraqi battalions ready and there is really 1,
and the media not question it, then this is a piece of cake for the MOFO.
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:38 AM
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50. Ha! Did he mention how many Bill Clinton stopped?
I believe it was something like... 9.
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pcboss49 Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:42 AM
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51. it must be the 'morning has broken' singer Cat Stevens....
a very real threat.... when shrub gets desparate, he really gets desparate....
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:10 PM
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53. More BS in attempt to deflect impact from indictments etc n/t
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:48 PM
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54. Booga Booga Booga! Terra Terra Terra!
After his bungling on Katrina I seriously doubt he could stop an ice cream truck, much less a terra-ist attack.

Anyone with half a brain could see KATRINA, review Bunnypants' plan to use the MILITARY to QUARRANTINE and think to themselves, "yeah, sure, he could foil 3 terrorist attacks....NOT!"
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:11 PM
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55. Top Ten Terraist Attacks Foiled

10) Switching the "hot" and "cold" levers in the White House shower.

9) Attempting to dye Trent Lott's toupee a subtly different shade of "asshole"

8) Repeatedly calling the Department of Homeland Security with the cryptic question, "is your refrigerator running?"

7) Collecting the millions of manicure scissors seized by airport security and plotting to sell them for profit on Ebay

6) Writing "TF" next to "W" bumper stickers

5) Connecting regular Coke lines to the Diet Coke dispensers at area 7-11s

4) Federal officials uncovered a plot to blow up banks in Washington DC in 2002. They raised the terror-o-meter and warned the American public about the plot in 2004.

3) Stealing the sneeze guards from the Applebee's salad bar

2) Selling dog food to Taco Bell

1) Replacing Bill O'Reilly's Astroglide with Krazy Glue
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:16 PM
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57. BUSH IS REALLY TRYING TO LAUNCH ALL OUT FEAR OF MUSLIMS HERE
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 04:23 PM by superconnected
ANY MINUTE HE'LL be attacking a US city and blaming it on them.

Me thinks the prez is trying tooo hard.

Somethings fucking up.

It's not his ratings, so that might be the problem. But he obviously needs support to keep funding his war in iraq. It's pretty clear he'll do anything to get it.

What is this, national hate muslim day on Bushs calendar? He keeps sounding off about them today in every idiot way possible, and yesterday the FBI said car thiefs rings were in on it. They're warming us up for something.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:21 PM
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58. You'd think his cronies would be busy with iraq and new orleans
but I suspect he's going to do something and blame iran, and .. you know.. make us pay "more" for terrorism.

Just like he's saying in the news today.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:26 PM
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59. I thwarted 1,000,000,000 attacks just yesterday.
Prove me wrong.

I fart on this presidunce. May the lice of a thousand camels infest his crotch.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:35 PM
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60. he needs an attack right now more than ever
I hope he doesn't provide one.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:09 PM
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61. at least 10?
Tosh!
Why, they must've foiled a hundred, nay, a hundred times a hundred, nefarious plots!

Look out for the chickens!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:50 PM
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62. Prove it.
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 09:50 PM by daleo
He must be desperate.

Personally, I have prevented thousands of marauding lions from terrorizing New York City. To you skeptics, I say, "prove that I haven't".
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:55 PM
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63. Have you seen Dubya's new suit? It's the most BEAUTIFUL suit ever made.
It was spun from the threads found at the scene of 10 terrah attacks that never occurred.
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