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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:49 PM
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Hotel Chain Asks Katrina Evacuees to Leave
At least one hotel chain has asked some Hurricane Katrina evacuees to check out so it can honor the reservations of incoming guests.

Hilton Hotels, the parent company of Hampton Inn and other brands, is trying to find other rooms for the evacuees but said they were warned when they checked in that their stays would be limited by room availability, said Hilton spokeswoman Kathy Shepard.
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Had Perry found shelter in Louisiana, she would have been protected by a Sept. 1 executive order issued by Gov. Kathleen Blanco that bars hotels from displacing a refugee who guarantees payment.

In Mississippi, no such protection exists. Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood has asked hotel managers to let evacuees stay longer, but they are not required to do so. Gov. Haley Barbour "has decided to let the private sector handle those issues without government intervention," said his spokesman, Pete Smith.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/10/06/national/a100436D02.DTL
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:54 PM
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1. Protected by an order issued by Dem Gov Blanco....
...or tossed out on your keister by "compassionate conservative" repug Haley Barbour....

These people (neocons) just disgust me. :puke:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:00 PM
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2. Another example
of which party really cares about the people and which cares more about corporations.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:04 PM
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5. Not just a corporation, but the Hilton corporation
Gotta keep Paris happy until her estate inheritance is guaranteed tax free.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:06 PM
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14. That's hot (n/t)
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:14 PM
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15. LMAO!
:rofl:
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Centered Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:15 PM
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21. Dear God...
We found her damn dog... what else does she want from us!!!


:)
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:01 PM
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3. Who's paying for the rooms? the evacuees themselves or
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 02:01 PM by expatriot
are they getting comped by FEMA or other agency?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:31 PM
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10. some evacuees pay, some are getting red cross/fema
it's a patchwork

the problem w. brookhaven & even on up to jackson is that it is VERY difficult if not impossible now to get an apartment or a motel room

i'm not sure where the lady in the story could possibly go, my friend in folsom area STILL lacked power as of a few days ago, & if trees came down & destroyed the lady's house she might not have any house to return to

i'm sure she'd rather be home than in a crummy motel but what do you do
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:03 PM
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4. This clip sums the whole thing up rather neatly
They "could be occupying a room that could otherwise be occupied by a higher-paying guest who's spending lots of money on telephone, food and beverage," said Bjorn Hanson, a hotel industry analyst with PriceWaterhouseCoopers in New York.

Remember, "sacrifice" is just for us poor suckers, not for big-time Bush**-donating corps. :grr:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:04 PM
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6. "a refugee who guarantees payment" @ what rate?
The hotels could charge the door price for the room vs the street price that normal visitors pay.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:05 PM
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7. My sister works for Hilton...
In their defense, they do have a business to run, and they are trying to find places for people to go.

When the flood waters started rising, they took in EVERYONE who came through their doors. They had people sleeping in the halls and lobbies. My sister works at corporate, but she said they'd been having cnstant meetings by conference calls with the New Orleans hotels trying to facilitate all the help they could manage, including sending semi-trailers full of food and water to restock the hotels to feed all the people staying there. In addition, I know that at least one Hilton in the Houston area let their staff and families stay there for free when Rita hit, if they were not going to evacuate further.
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wrathofkahn Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:12 PM
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20. I'll second that...
It's anecdotal, but here's my experience:

I know four people who had planned to be in Baton Rouge on business for the second weekend in September. They had planned this trip in June, so it's not like any of them had any idea this was going to happen. Their business was on the LSU campus, so they were booked in the Marriott and the Homewood Suites (a Hilton property) close to campus.

Soon after the hurricane hit, they were informed that their reservations would be cancelled due to refugees being on property. Their trip also got re-scheduled by a couple of days.

I called and pleaded with several hotels in the area to let them in, but all were full. I asked at both the Marriott and the Homewood if these guys could get on a waiting list. The response in both places: "sure, but the rule here is 'refugees first.'"

I felt a bit selfish after that.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:21 PM
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8. I wonder how many of the critics here have opened their own doors
I don't know enough about Hilton's efforts to condemn them or praise them. It seems to me that they've done more than some other companies or organizations. As usual, it's easy to judge when you read one source known to have political bias. I know in my own life that it often seems no good turn goes unpunished.

If we had better information, we could make better judgments. I notice one poster on this thread has a relative with actual information about the situation. I find that the most credible information so far.

Peace.

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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:25 PM
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9. I emailed my sister and asked for more info...
but she travels for work a lot, so I don't know how soon she might get back to me. If I get any more info, I'll add it.

BTW, the big N.O. Hilton has been declared too unstable to repair and will have to be rebuilt.

It's a big business with big overhead. I think they have been pretty generous so far, and sincerely concerned about their staff in the affected areas as well. This is a sticky situation, and I hope they will handle it well.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:45 PM
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11. One source known to have political bias?
Are you referring to the Associated Press? The article on SFGate is an AP article, and includes this pretty credible information:

Most hotel chains are still giving evacuees priority over guests with reservations, Hanson said. At a Comfort Inn across the street from the Hampton Inn in Brookhaven, assistant manager Amanda Smith said no one was being asked to leave.

"What would you do? They're homeless. You can't turn them away. It's morally wrong. I'd rather inconvenience our people with reservations," Smith said.

Holiday Inn and Choice Hotels International, which markets brands such as Clarion, Comfort Suites, Quality and Sleep Inns, are also encouraging their franchises to give priority to evacuees and emergency workers.


I'm not going to jump in and condemn anyone since I don't have a relative in the business, but I think the article is pretty clear.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:15 PM
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16. No, I'm talking about this site
Bias isn't a bad thing, it's a good thing, because it provides us a way of making sense of things, but it comes with responsibility: we must resist the urge to only see the world through a single political lens.

As with most here, I am offering my opinion, not a set of known facts. My point was to urge further investigation before issuing the reflexive "outrage" reaction. Outrage is easy; understanding takes more effort. Sometimes outrage turns out to be justified. Other times, not at all.

Alphonse Daudet observed more than a century ago that "hatred is the anger of the weak." I couldn't say it better myself.

I found the amount of unsubtantiated rumor, incomplete information, and outright distortion from all sides during Katrina to be appalling. It directly led to an increase in misery and loss for the people affected.

Peace.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:28 PM
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17. The criticism belongs with the government
Corporations' only purpose is to make money, so naturally they will kick out lower paying guests as soon as it is feasible (i.e. a decent time interval has passed from the p.r. point of view). It is the government's responsibility to either regulate the corporation's behavior in this regard, or do something else for the evacuees. Thus, the difference in the two state government's response was really the key point of the thread, although it may have wandered.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:48 PM
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12. Set up "Camp Hilton" in each of their parking lots!
:rofl:
rocknation
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:51 PM
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13. Hilton is a business. I think they've done a ton already. It's gov's job
After one month I'd think the Govt and help agencies would have found more permanent housing for the evacuees. To expect a hotel chain to house evacuees indefinitely, as though it was an apartment building, is really asking too much. Seriously. Why hasn't the govt or other agency helped to find other homes for them? I'm sure living in a hotel isn't the greatest thing in the world, either.

This is a govt/FEMA failure, not the fault of the hotel chain. Some people here are pointing their fingers at the wrong people. THe biggest failure is the lack of help in settling these evacuees into SUITABLE housing.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:38 PM
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18. lanco did what she had to because these evacuees have been screwed majorly
by Fema and the Feds- there's been a pattern of too little too late. her citizens are scattered all over the nation being refused residence in shelters in many communtiies because of their skin color.
hilton can survive while waitng for reimbursement, many of these people could not.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:43 PM
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19. Its a wonder they even let them stay this long.
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