MSNBC.com Breaking News: New York subway security threat

New York increasing security on subways due to security threat, official says

It's on the breaking news banner on MSNBC.com

UPDATE:

New York to be alerted to possible attack
Credibility of the source is in question, but police will advise vigilance

NEW YORK - Police were preparing Thursday to warn subway riders of an unspecified threat to the subway system, NBC reported. Sources told NBC that the information came from a single informant of varying credibility.

The informant said operatives would try to smuggle explosives onto the New York train system in an imitation of the London and Madrid attacks, several sources told NBC. According to these sources, attackers were expected to conceal explosives in baby carriages.

The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

Some officials told NBC News that they doubt the credibility of the threat. The source has apparently given some accurate information in the past, and some inaccurate, and there are reasons, they say, to doubt this new information.

Nonetheless, because the source gave a specific time for the planned attacks — the second week in October — New York police had decided to make some of this information public and ask riders to be vigilant.

There are no plans to raise the terror threat level.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9614242/

Must have got word back about the focus groups not buying the speech already!
:rofl:

Nothing to see here, people. You can go back to sleep now.

I hope they don't end up like poor brazilian guy shot to death in London, because he might have been a terrorist.

If the "source" is sometimes credible, sometimes not...What's to say there's not actually someone planning to attack, but were successful in putting law enforcement OFF of the scent...so they could pull some crazy attack elsewhere while everyone's focusing on the subway?

I'm still having trouble accepting the idea that the threat is real at all, but wouldn't it be perfect for attackers to see everyone moving AWAY from the real target(s) in order to protect the subway?

he was pressured to issue unsubstantiated warnings/claims during the election and conventions?

:spank:

Er, uhm red alert! red alert!

they operate, for sure.

half the WH is about to be indicted.........there had to be an alert. Nice job, Karl.

just when I was about to watch tweety spin the rove story, msnbc goes out altogether and CNN is nothing but credible threat on NY Subways!!!

Threat my ass! it's called change the fucking subject. I believe these evil bastatrds in power would harm their own people if they had to to protect themselves.

unfuckingreal.

That's been wiped completely off the radar. Phucking no good criminal bastards and their dirty tricks.This is GOPerverts dirty tricks if I've ever seen any. :argh:

i should just smack myself in the head, i only predicted it a hundred times here and elsewhere that the moment Rove gets close to indicted to bonafide indicted the terra alerts would be flyin. . along with "major" speeches about terra.

I hate them. I hate them all.

A precious quote just heard on CBS News: "Many intelligence analysts listening to the internet chatter described it as 'imagination run amok' and nowhere near a full scale operational plot." Yep that about sums it up. Very reminiscent of the phony terror alert launched after John Kerry gave his acceptance speech at the convention, based on stale information,it served their diversionary purposes quite nicely then and they are beating the same tired fear drum now. Without a doubt the most mendacious, manipulative maladministration ever.

1945 (+) :cry: :cry: :cry:
http://icasualties.org/oif/ :cry:
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

The spy story fell flat on its face so we had to find something else to frighten the masses so they ignore the upcoming Plame indictments

and i could swear it was the NY Post, if not the Daily News.
I was pretty shocked.
And you know what? Very few people in New York are going to be talking about this alert- except it's the same old same old. If anything a lot more people are going to be thinking like us- that it's a diversionary scam. joe barcalounger in the metro area woke the fuck up just recently. this administration is officially and openly hated at this point by the most apolitical people you have ever met. .

...and plastic sheeting - I thought I'd never be able to use that stuff now that the elections are over...

You can use the plastic sheeting on the roof of your house!!

Waste not, want not.

but be sure and watch the telly so we can all know what it is we are supposed to think.

Jeez, these guys are so predictable. Get the Rove thing bumped off the top story.

Looks like it's going to be a bumpy ride ;-).

In the meantime, I make no claim to psychic ability, but Patrick Fitzgerald will be the most eligible bachelor in the country by the end of the week. :woohoo: If I wasn't already married, I'd be sending flowers and homemade chocolate chip cookies to his offices! :woohoo:

Julie

so many potential panic attacks, so little time.

Or maybe both! ;-)

Later on if they start hyping that more, you can always switch over to the subways.

:banghead:

How shocking. I predicted a shark attack or another missing white girl but I guess they needed something a little bit bigger ti hide the news coming out of Washington today.

I'm shocked......... :boring:

in todays new- unfortunately found dead

here in Cherokee County, Georgia. She has been missing for a month. Wonder why her disappearance has not made national headlines yet. Well, I guess the main stream media has not picked up on it yet.

they think we're all rrrrreeeeaaalllly stupid, don't they.

Bush is totally sounding off about islam being out to get us today. He won't quit. he wants more money and even more business for his cronies.

He may be letting something happen.

He's given the radical muslims plenty of reason to attack us now. All he has to do is let something happen again.

Right now is the least support he's ever had for his war, AND he wants to go after Iran. Pay attention.

Since the FBI said car thief rings are shipping cars to iraq and blowing them up (I know idiocy), it may involve a car bomb.

They've already made the public announcement to make people think car thieves are linked to alquaida.

I'm going to guess what ever muslim group they're letting attack us, has just turned out to be going to attack us very soon - sooner than they thought, or bush and the FBI wouldn't be sounding off like this.

Just a guess to their motives. I've seen too many bush announcements that they're out to get us today. Far far more than usual. Way too many for one day.

I hope it's not a real threat, but if something serious were to happen, it's Chimpy's fault people don't take his "terra" warnings seriously anymore.

MIHOP or LIHOP then I agree, there could quite possibly be something coming down the pipe. They're getting REALLY desperate now and they'll pull out all the stops to keep control of the government. Martial Law may be closer than we think. :popcorn:

generally.

Which makes it a perfect target for MIHOP.

particularly the suburban commuters (think Greenwich, CT).
Personally, I think the Mayor and the Police Commissioner may believe it's real but I have my doubts and the DHS, incompetent as they are, doubt it too.
If Bloomberg thinks it's a fake, he might be willing to go along because it makes him look tough in comparison with Ferrer.

in his pants. Calm down, Leslie! It's all bullshit. There is no threat in the subway or anywhere else. What a fucking tool this guy is, he's whirling like a dervish. Unfuckingbelievable.

as I am literally just about to go home on the subway...

Tee hee :(

What's that Toady bloomberg have to say about this?

but I'm not listening to the radio right now either. I don't even know exactly what people are talking about. Who's giving this info out and what are they saying?

THIS Peter King ... "The election's over! We won! It's all over - but the counting, and we will take care of the counting!"

ass in high gear and see if these threats are real or NOT.l

bushwa is playing deadly politics at the expense of New Yorkers..They are disrupting New Yorkers' lives with their FEAR FUCKING MONGERING.

then they're definitely up to something.

Bush that is.

Or in other words, some nice islamic people who do hate the US got free tickets to do what they want so Bush can finish milking america.

are pouring onto the subway just like they do every day this time.

They don't look the least perturbed.

"New York increasing security on subways due to security threat, official says"

No story yet.

are causing terra! Those damn Yankees!!

We all saw this coming!

what does lol mean?

:hi:

edit to add a: Welcome to DU!

For weeks I've tried to figure it out thinking I'd eventually catch on. I don't know why I didn't ask sooner.

board I thought it meant "Lots of luck!" So, I still say that to myself. :)

But people simply use "lol" to denote something funny in general.

all saying that they can't find anyone in FBI who knows about it - hmmm....how convieeeeenent...

Why can't someone report what this is....BS!!!!!

as quickly as the Neocon anxiety levels. How convienent !

Bastards

How transparent is this?? WHY have a Repub congressman report on this...isn't this a FBI thing????? Come one we're NOT THAT STUPID!!!!

Wouldn't you know it, I'm scrolling during work, my boss walks by and...

...my bull$hit detector just went off like mad!!!!

BASTARD HACK..peter king puke.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NYC_SUBWAY?SITE=NCBER&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&SECTION=HOME


WASHINGTON (AP) -- New York officials are increasing security on city subways after word of a "credible security threat" to the city's transit system, Rep. Peter King said Thursday.

King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, said, "Obviously, this is a significant threat."

He said he got his information from New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly.

"The election's over! We won! It's all over - but the counting, and we will take care of the counting!" fame. Why do I have doubts?

And I only say that becuse I'm being polite. My brother just called me from the Q train- he had no idea anything was "going on"

NEWS ALERT | 5:33 PM ET
Mayor's Announcement on N.Y. Subway Threat Is Expected Soon


They really aren't saying much are they? They like to really let that panic really settle in before giving any facts.

...because this is obviously a ploy by the Junior Senator from NY to throw MSM off the book by Lou-eye, Lou-eye Freeh...

I think I'm going to jam a q-tip in my eye and see what happens. It's certainly a lot better than reading that junk. But just like a car accident...

Since WHEN is Hillary Clinton in charge of DHS? Do they even know who's responsible for issuing terra alerts?

That's right - REPUBLICANS, idiots!!!

For this country to have a republican house, senate and White House, Hillary Clinton sure has a lot of power! Good Lord already!!!

From NYT again

sure. I wonder if the voice sounded like Rove.

Aug 6, 2001..that chimpy ignored. Now I think they're fabricating terrorist alerts. Because that's all they've ever done.

this is CLASSIFIED!

No facts, no FBI info....hmmmm....pardon me if I'm a little suspicious!!

and they kept saying he was saying things in news conferencecs they never heard of.

So the fbi not knowing while it's being reported, and while bush is having a run on stirring terrorism fears today, sound more like it's coming from bushco than the msm.

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Homeland security says we're at yellow alert.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/homeland/

Doesn't Al Queda go in for morning attacks - 9/11, Madrid, London - to get a full day's worth of coverage?

You'd think the Repubs would stop this stuff after seeing Bush's sorry performance during Katrina!

And called my sister on the way to tell her not to take the train.

Then, as I was getting close to my apt., I remembered that that motherf#@(%*& @#%(*& @#(%*& douchebag was giving a speech today about TERRA.

THIS COUNTRY HAS BECOME A GODDAMNED FARCE.

Sorry for the rant all.

I thought all the terrorist were stuck in Iraq now....

And there's an Islamo-fascist gorilla on top of the Empire State Building!

Run! Hide! Don't think about Karl Rove!

Every frigging time one of their dirty, corrupt, disgusting toadies is about to make news because he's testifying or being indicted or hopefully being lined up and shot, OOOH, LOOK, SHINY! Terror alert! Really! Over here! Don't indict Republicans, or the terra-ists will do something unspecified (but REALLY BAD) in an undisclosed location, according to an uncredited source!

This is HUGH!!1111!!!

gag me.

Gosh, step away from DU for a couple hours and a TERRA alert happens!

That was with the quickness, I must say....see what you New Yorkers get for giving Bunnypants the lowest approval rating ever....?

Seriously, people can see through this, it's so freaking transparent.

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spoke about.

...to be imposed by Congress. Rumsfeld's PR man at the Pentagon just announced today that it was absurd to think that law makers could design laws to guide interrogators on how to treat terrorists threatening our country's security.

Huh? Huh?

Bullhorn moments win votes !

Thoughts with my DU-NYCers and my daughter !

anti- terror squad and training going on for years now. they realized right away after 9/11 that the Feds had their heads up their asses and they had to do it on their own.

I feel better. Damn, I love that city, and how they keep electing republican mayors I'll never know!!??!!

too many apolitical people. at any rate, we ain't san francisco, but things are changing here, as always.
ny loves you too, caw, check your PM.
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them here?? :sarcasm:

Now we have more reasons to be in Iraq(war on terra). Such obvious propaganda.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1828416
Poll: Bush approval rating hits all-time low in New York (29% approval)

SURE! :think: Low poll numbers in New York + Latest War on Terra speech falling flat = Make people in New York City (site of 9/11...AHA!) be put under SECURITY THREAT

Danger! Danger, Will Robinson!

Naturally they can't give us any hard facts or details.

No shit. When it comes from the White House, it's always in question.

should be out of Iraq ASAP, so now he needs to say this is coming from Iraq
geeez

:sarcasm:

Service is the worst anyway. People hitch rides with Santa.

Last years I made a study of terror alerts and their correlation to Bush getting in trouble. Since 9/11, every time Chimpy screwed up or dropped in his ratings, Tom Ridge and DHS would quickly issue a terror alert. This no "tinfoil hat" speculation. Even Tom Ridge has admitted to issuing terror alerts at the wanton request of the White House, even when they knew they had no credible evidence.

Here's a link to my study:

Timeline of Terror Alerts


And here's a link to the chart that explained the study in visual terms:

Chart: Bush Ratings vs. Terror Alerts

How convenient that in the same week Ton Delay is charged with money laundering, Bush ratings plummet even further down, Frist is investigated for insider trading, and Rove is about to be indicted... we get this terror alert.

Furthermore, they claim they found the info on potential terror attacks today in Iraq. This, on the same day Bush delivers a speech to convince the nation to keep fighting Iraq. Come on!!!

It's always by "incredible coincidences" that Bush gets to save his butt. Give me a break.

PS: This is not to say there are not credible terror threats. Of course. Particularly after the devastating attacks in Madrid and London, it's important we stay alert. But the sudden alert released on such a crucial and convenient date just rings phony to me. They've done it before. Tom Ridge has admitted it so.

Police Investigate New York Subway Terror Threat

Security Increased Following Possible Plot Information

Oct. 6, 2005 —  The New York Police Department and FBI are investigating a "credible" tip that 19 operatives have been deployed to the city to place bombs in the subway, and security in the subways has been increased. Department of Homeland Security sources told ABC News they were very doubtful the threat information is credible, however

"I wanted to assure New Yorkers that we have done and we will continue to do everything we can to protect the city," Bloomberg said. "We will spare no resource. We will spare no expense."

According to sources in intelligence, emergency services and police headquarters, the intelligence community developed information that the threat may have involved pharmacists from Iraq coming to New York for some kind of chemical attack targeting the subways.

Three insurgents, one or more of whom are pharmacists, were arrested during a raid by a U.S. military and intelligence community team, sources said, and one of those caught disclosed the threat. Because it slipped out during the arrest, the plot was deemed credible.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1190231

If the war in Iraq has spilled over into NY, that would totally eviscerate my family's argument that we have "taken the war to them" and, at the same time, reinforce my assertion that the war in Iraq, having nothing to do with 9/11, has actually only created new terrorists, and they will come here as soon as they can.

We should view this as very possibly fueled by Rovian influence on the media. If we ever learn the true source of the threat, we may see a new tactic.

If it's true that the threat is from Iraqi Insurgents, then Rove has sacrificed a significant point - Iraq was a mistake. Even if the source is credible, the fact that Rove has fueled this threat demonstrates that he concedes to Americas perception that Iraq was bad.

This is a huge concession, and not typical of Rove at all.

So, we must also give rise to other possibilities. Maybe Rove is already toast to Bush and a new advisor is playing damage control. Maybe nobody is calling the shots and the media is simply employing knee-jerk journalism to capitalize on the moment.

But, IF the threat came from Iraqi Insurgents, then the whole episode will be bad for Bush the Lesser and his cabal.

I'm anxious to see how this plays out.

Terra?

Terra.

Yawn.

Completely transparent now

From the BBC:


However, in Washington, Homeland Security Department spokesman Russ Knocke appeared to contradict the New York officials when he told the Associated Press news agency that "the intelligence community has concluded this information to be of doubtful credibility".


More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4317758.stm

So what's going on? Bloomberg says there's a threat, but the feds say no? Weird.

From the BBC:


However, in Washington, Homeland Security Department spokesman Russ Knocke appeared to contradict the New York officials when he told the Associated Press news agency that "the intelligence community has concluded this information to be of doubtful credibility".


More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4317758.stm

So what's going on? Bloomberg says there's a threat, but the feds say no? Weird.