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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:10 PM
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US forces bomb Iraq's Euphrates bridges (eight of them!)
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 06:18 PM by Barrett808
Baghdad - US-led forces have bombed eight bridges on the Euphrates River in western Iraq to stop insurgents using them, US military spokesperson Major General Rick Lynch said Thursday.

"We have been taking out portions of bridges with precision strikes," he told a news conference.

Of 12 bridges between the Syrian border and Ramadi, 110km west Baghdad, "four remain under control of the coalition forces and Iraqi forces after precision strikes on the others," he said.

"One of the vulnerabilities of this insurgency is freedom of movement," he added.

"We took out portions of these bridges to deny terrorists, foreign fighters and insurgents the capability to cross north to south or south to north across the Euphrates River."

(more)

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=123&art_id=qw1128610260414B262


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:12 PM
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1. We can't even control the bridges?
Give me a break. It's time to give up this illegal war and bring the troops home.

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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:02 PM
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33. Can't even control them long enough temporarily
to have ground troops cordon them off so no one is on them and then set charges. They had to send in fighters becayse it's behind enemy lines. sheesh...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:12 PM
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2. wow the insurgents seem like they are nearly defeated now, boy nt
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:51 PM
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36. The generals who ordered these strikes...
are paid by the same people who have been asked to cough up $30b to rebuild Iraq infrastructure.

Perhaps everyone involved would be better off by paying for neither.

They're going to need to improve their PR - It's no wonder that Iraq-a-thon has only raised $600.

http://www.iraqpartnership.org/
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:13 PM
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3. And anyway - we can pay Halliburton millions to rebuild them later. nt.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:20 PM
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9. Guess HAL's earnings are a little down
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:23 PM
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11. I bet David J. Lesar, CEO Halliburton
got a woody on that one.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:25 PM
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13. No-bid contracts to rebuild bridges given 2 Halliburton B4 planes took off
is my guess.
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:28 PM
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17. good for bidness or is it bidless?
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 06:30 PM by cornfedyank
" every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in a sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of it's laborers, the genius of it's scientists, and the hopes of it's children." D.D.E "the chance for peace."--april 16, 1953

what do they say now? never ending war on ...

don't worry that we went broke...BBFE et al will loan you the money.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:04 PM
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34. Bidless. Perfect. Takin' care of bidless... Big bidless........
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 08:04 PM by cyberpj
Bidless partners
Big bidless
Bidless ethics

Bidless as usual!



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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:48 PM
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74. Duke: "There's no bidness like no-bidness."
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:53 PM
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77. Thanks so much! I've been missing Donesbury lately. So glad
it's right on target, as usual.


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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:11 PM
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78. It's good to see Gary giving some coverage to these obscured issues
I'm sure Duke will profit handsomely in New Orleans.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:58 PM
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38. The last decent Republican President
:thumbsup:
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:35 PM
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48. exactly, thats the insanity of the entire adventure in a nutshell
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:13 PM
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4. Golly, I wonder who is going to get the contract to rebuild that bridge?
No, wait. Don't tell me...

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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:14 PM
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5. Well, congratulations are in order.
Blow up all the roadways and roadsides as well so these alleged terra dudes have no place to place their roadside bombs.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:15 PM
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6. Well, that should finally bring this thing to an end.
No insurgent is going to get along without a bridge to use.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:18 PM
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7. How many godzillion dollars with Halliburton-types get to rebuild
those bridges? It's so mind boggling, it boggles me mind.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:18 PM
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8. Good thing nobody else in Iraq needed them...
I'm not entirely sure, but I think if I were in their shoes and had to row to work as a result of this I might find it a bit alienating.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:07 AM
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49. Doubly true
Not only does it piss off the remaining innocent civilians (i.e., the
ones who didn't lose their lives, limbs or livelihood in the bombing)
but it shows exactly how any "insurgents" will cross the river now ...

Yet another war crime from the Bush Administration.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:49 PM
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75. UNDERSTATEMENT ALERT! - LOL
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:21 PM
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10. It's like the days of shock and awe all over again
Sadly.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:39 PM
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67. how much money did each missle cost?
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:24 PM
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12. We destroyed them in order to save them
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:26 PM
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14. How many were rebuilt with U.S. money after they were bombed in 2003?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:27 PM
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15. When they're finishes destroying the infrastructure
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 06:28 PM by malaise
do they plan to rebuild them. This is an international disgrace. When will the rest of the world shout out loud and clear that enough is enough. They are bombing a people and a country into the stone age so that they can control its resources. I can't take much more of this.
Edit -sp.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:28 PM
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16. Do you suppose bush will declare victory when every structure....
in Iraq is destroyed or leveled.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:34 PM
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18. Doesn't bombing the bridges stop Iraqi citizens from using them, too?
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 06:35 PM by rocknation
Or have you finally come to terms with the fact that you can't wipe out the insurgency unless you wipe out the citizenry?

:crazy:
rocknation
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:42 PM
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23. insurgents = citizens. nt.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:17 PM
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26. No, you got it bass ackward:
dead citizens = insurgents. Every time.
:eyes:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:29 PM
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39. good point.
Its deja vue all over again. What is the Iraqi equiavalent of the dead water buffalo that constituted about 30% of the official viet cong body count?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:42 PM
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69. Infuckingdeed.
I've even seen that loathsome sentiment expressed HERE, FFS!

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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:34 PM
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19. Rebuild those bridges! Do we have any takers? Halliburton, looking at you!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:37 PM
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20. How will people get to the polls to vote?
If the insurgents are stopped aren't ordinary citizens also denied use of the bridges?

Silly me.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:51 PM
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76. Don't worry - 100% turnout is guaranteed!
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:38 PM
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21. Shades of Vietnam, when another crooked Texan, Lyndon Johnson...
was blowing up bridges so that RMK Construction Company (of which his wife wa a major stockholder) could rebuild them. Once rebuilt, they were again blow up, and so on.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:39 PM
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22. I guess securing a brigde is too much to ask of our troops.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 06:51 PM
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24. Eeee Haaaaa! We Are Wining!!!!
:cry:
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wordout Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:13 PM
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25. misquote?
"One of the vulnerabilities of this insurgency is freedom of movement," he added.

anyone care to explain how a moving enemy is more vulnerable than a stationary one?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. They could run into a lamp-post!
And break their noses.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:46 PM
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28. guess the Iraqis will love us even more now....kill any children while we
were at it? That's another sure heart-winner we seem to be good at...am i in a time warp or did i die and go to Hell? are we still in Vietnam? surely my Country could not AGAIN kill people to save them???? Destroy a village to save it????

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:53 PM
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30. What kind of monsters are we? We must be in hell. nt
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:51 PM
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29. Which corrupt Bush crony gets to rebuild all the bridges in Iraq?
In no bid contracts. Whoever they are, they must be popping champaign corks as we speak. While we destroy a country, and blow it back to the stone ages. How can we do this to a country and a people. What kind of monsters are we?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:56 PM
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31. they can use boats, you know
then again, these are the commanders who put Saddam's head on Zsa Zsa Gabor and Billy Idol and thought it would "draw out" his "Islamist supporters."
Will they blow up fishers in boats and coracles like they do farmers and groups of random people through their super-dooper videogame sights as they cheer and play Nugent?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 07:57 PM
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32. Did they just find these bridges? Were they disguised as WMD's?
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:20 PM
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35. Oh Yea. Things Are Going Great
An area so lacking in security that you have to bomb a bridge with an airplane kind of calls into question Cheney's pronouncement that the insurgency is in it's last throes.

Also, isn't blowing up bridges what a retreating military force does?

Guess this is what I get for being part of the reality based community.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:47 PM
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40. We have decades of this shit ahead of us, said Cheney
There is no way the American people are going to put up with another Vietnam.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Thats Right. This Week It's Years Of Struggle
I'm just no good at this doublethink stuff.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:07 PM
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85. Tactics of retreat. We've lost this war!! It's all over but the scene
where the helicopters pull the last quislings out of Baghdad before the "insurgents" take over their country.

I went to a Hmong cultural fair last weekend. My kids will go to Iraqi cultural fairs. Count on it.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:56 PM
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37. Halliburton will just rebuild them!
And, to hell with America's crumbling bridges!

:mad:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:59 PM
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42. Halliburton will rebuild them again. This is part of our program. We'll
go after the schools next. Stay the course.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 10:08 PM
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43. Two and a half years after the invasion, and still blowing up bridges
What else is there to say.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:03 PM
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44. We are not doing such a good job of rebuilding the infrastructure.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:17 PM
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45. sounds just like the good old days
with control of Higway 1 and 3 leading to Saigon... we could keep it by day, but not by night.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:27 PM
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46. They had to precision bomb that bridge to save it! (nt)
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:30 PM
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47. Who gets the reconstruction contract?
And how will US troops get across them?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:10 AM
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50. Now wHo do you tHink?
> And how will US troops get across them?

Not a problem ... the US troops couldn't get near the bridges (alive)
anyway so there's no need to worry about "crossing" them!

Why do you think they used a plane to destroy the bridge rather than
a military checkpoint to control access to it? It's because they
CAN'T control anything over there, least of all a bridge outside the
Green Zone ...
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:56 AM
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55. So modern warfare is destroying the infrastructure
of a country you have come to "help" in order for Bachtel & Haliburton and their friends to rebuild them.

I must say, I think I'm disillusioned and aware, but BushCo are teaching me new depths of cynicism every day.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:42 AM
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51. Strategic geniuses the lot of them...
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 06:44 AM by Stockholm
Poison all Iraqi sources of food when you´re at it, evidence shows that insurgents use it to their benefit.
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:49 AM
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52. Oh yes, these are the people we are helping!
I know a builder, a general contractor, who is involved with a similar quagmire. The scope of the work keeps creeping larger and vaguer. He and his men can't finish the job because the homeowner objects to the way the basement was poured.

Initially he had planned to give them just the shell of the house rebuilt. Now he's throwing in framing interior walls and even wiring, just trying to get his guys out of the hole in the basement, and get the final payment from the homeowner.

I tell my friend that it's his own little Iraq!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:52 AM
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53. And they still don't want us there? Why, when will they learn that...
the US is the shining beacon of peace, democracy, and prosperity? :shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:53 AM
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54. Doublespeak
"One of the vulnerabilities of this insurgency is freedom of movement," he added.

Here's hoping they don't get any more "vulnerable". :eyes:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:24 AM
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56. Another day, another war crime
There is no reason why we can't control 8 bridges.

This is not war. The war is over. We are now the occupying force in charge of Iraq. It is our job to maintain law and order and for over $1 BILLION A WEEK, that should be a simple matter.

Instead we have maintained chaos and disorder purposely. Once again, BushCo refuses to provide the people and resources to return Iraq to normalacy. Bush's only response to every problem is to blow it up. There will never be peace in the world, until BushCo steps down. Only then can we start to rebuild from the ashes of their destruction.

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 09:56 AM
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57. Presumably, this is to block the exit of insurgents during Iron Hammer
Or whatever operation is currently targeting civili-- I mean, cities.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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72. Iron Fist, I think?
Iron Hammer was earlier, with its name DERIVED FROM A NAZI OPERATION.

I'll never forget that.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 07:02 AM
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90. it is operation river gate
It should have been operation blow-up bridges.....

Soldiers Killed During Operation River Gate; Iron Fist Ends

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2005/20051008_2980.html
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 10:41 AM
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58. Absurd
""We took out these bridges to deny terrorists, foreign fighters and insurgents the capability to cross the Euphrates River."

So this is a nation unfamilair with using boats as a means to traverse a body of water?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:00 PM
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59. Kos military professional: "For the first time I believe we have lost"
Why is this a big deal? Because we are actually destroying infrastructure in a country we occupy. We are saying that the military value of the bridges to the insurgancy is greater than the value to us in either a military or economic/social way. This can be compared to the use of chemicals to destroy the jungle in Vietnam. Not because it caused cancer but because it was the long term destruction of some portion of the country.

As a solider I have been involved in this war in one way or another since 1990. I was in Baghdad early on when we actually thought we could rebuild the country. It was a tough decision then to cut down the trees on the airport road then but when you are getting shot at, you have to do something. Now we are blowing up bridges. For the first time I believe we have lost. For the first time as a military professional I think we have no way of winning this. We are willing to destroy the basic structures of the country to deny the enemy their use. This means we have no other way to deny them the use of these assets. We can't stop them, the Iraqi Army can't stop them, the Iraqi police can't stop them and we can't collect enough intelligence to make the enemy pay for using what should be choke points.

There is no way to sugar coat this. This is a MAJOR development. That we have made it public is also a big deal because every other military professional in the world knows we are done. This war may go on for a long time but the conclusion is decided as far as I can see. I never imagined I would see this day.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/6/231049/886

(via Juan Cole: http://www.juancole.com/2005/10/21-killed-around-baghdad-jaafari.html)


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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:47 PM
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73. Welcome to reality, Mr. KMP - we knew this BEFORE THE FUCKING WAR BEGAN!
So get the fuck out of Iraq already.

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 12:03 PM
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80. At least people are coming around
Finally.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 03:31 PM
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81. Oh, that's great, no question.
I'm just thinking it would have been nice if they'd come around before the tens of thousands of deaths, ruined international relations, our country's bankruptcy, etc.

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:52 PM
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87. Truly. n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:34 PM
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60. kick
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:34 PM
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61. US forces bomb Euphrates bridges
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 02:25 PM by Ruby Romaine
ISN SECURITY WATCH (Friday, 7 October: 05.02 CET) - US forces bombed and destroyed eight bridges on the Euphrates River in western Iraq to keep insurgents from crossing them, news agencies quoted the US military as saying late on Thursday.

The remaining four of the 12 bridges that had connected the Iraqi town of Ramadi with the country's border with Syria are now controlled by US occupation forces, according to news agency reports.

"One of the vulnerabilities of this insurgency is freedom of movement,"the military statement said. "We took out portions of these bridges to deny terrorists, foreign fighters and insurgents the capability to cross north to south or south to north across the Euphrates River."

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=13074
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:34 PM
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62. That doesn't make any damn sense
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:34 PM
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63. halliburton needs our tax money so they can rebuild
I really hope this isn't true.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:34 PM
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64. I suppose I already knew that, but it still hurts to hear it.
The US Army: making work for Halliburton into the twenty-second century!
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:34 PM
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65. You blow bridges to deny lines of supply to the 'bad guys'
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 02:31 PM by davepc
Restrict his movement, funnel him in a direction of your choosing, or deny him access to territory.

8 Bridges is a lot, and this isn't maneuver warfare.

Its hard to stop small gangs of insurgents from slipping across the river by blowing a bridge.

Beats the hell out of me what they're trying to accomplish.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:44 PM
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70. that's what I was thinking
sounds like a horrible waste to me
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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71. Sounds to me more like punishing of the locals.
What was it Mao said? Something like "The guerilla is the fish that swims in the sea of the people." Punishment of the people as a whole will reinforce the insurgents as being on the side of the people.

This will sure win the hearts and minds.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:35 PM
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66. Haven't they heard of patrols?
I mean WTF.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:25 PM
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79. is it the pending indictments and other GOP woes
guiding these military maneuvers/tactics, or are they making up military strategy as they go along?

If this infrastructure destruction is essential to the noble cause, what took them so long to think of it?

What's next? - Will they rediscover the Greek phalanx warfare formation?

Taken with the belligerent tone of the privileged son who sends other people to die for his cause's recent speech, are they trying to be a catalyst to spark terra events ...

(while, of course, creating new bidness for Halliburton -- the MO is always win win for them)

... spicing things up with talk of quarantines, military martial law (as long as Chimp is dictator), terra in NYC subways and the Washington Monument, etc.?

Like HS czar Chertoff is the master at cover-up ...
they're the master of media creation.

Despite the amazing self-projection contained in Smirk's speech

... it contained many hot button words/terms which could incite a reaction:

great evil
Evil men
The radicals (repeated)
violence (repeated)
destructive power
hatred
killers
suicide bombers
shameless cruelty
heartless zealotry
imperial domination
fanaticism
murder (repeated)
tyrants

If something does happen whether it's real, MIHOP, LIHOP, whatever, the props on the stage are placed. Is it Act 3, Scene 3?
When does the final curtain drop?


I beseech everything good to guide Patrick Fitzgerald to do what others have either failed to do, have enabled-in-process, or stood by and done nothing -- drive a stake through the heart of this monster so we can reclaim our country.



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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:40 PM
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68. This is called "collective punishment".
Noncombative Iraqis use those bridges too, you murderous fucks.

How many will die because they can't escape fighting, or get to a hospital, or get food?

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 03:46 PM
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82. US Army in Iraq Occupies 7 Mosques in Ramadi and Turns Them into Barracks
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:57 PM
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83. *That's* a good idea.
Definitely winning hearts and minds prior to the referendum.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:06 PM
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84. Are these fuggers mad
occupying mosques now??? This madness must stop.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 09:16 PM
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88. wasn't that their excuse for knocking mosque towers down?
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:13 PM
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86. I thought we were trying to rebuild the infastructure?
Gee, isn't this an example of "cutting off your nose despite your face"?
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 06:42 AM
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89. the road map to democracy, turn a few corners and blow up the bridges
ooookaaaaaaay.... i think i'm going to double check my civics book and see if that was part of the definition of democracy....
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 08:49 AM
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91. Sounds like the fucking lying bastards know they are losing it badly
Oh yea, flowers and candy. You wimp ass fucking right wing pukes will pay for this in the end, just watch x(
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