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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:48 AM Original message |
Bush will veto anti-torture law after Senate revolt |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. Another feather in his cap..the Dems should have a field day with this... |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Hopefully the MEDIA will have a field day |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
61. Don't hold your breath waiting for the media to wake up. n/t |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. The CHIMPANZEE get an erection from this PICTURE |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
122. Pornography equals War |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
158. If this were a just world.. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
197. He's not man enough |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
193. Talk about "putting our soldiers in danger." This will help put them |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
117. Well there's a problem with that 'field day' |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. He's so evil. |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yea and not to mention that this is..... |
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don954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. ya, 90 senators is definitely a super-majority.. |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
70. Considering they're going to override the veto, |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Yeah, but he'll say he's "principled" in his evil doing! |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. But will the House? I doubt it. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
138. Doesn't matter. |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #138 |
159. overriding vetoes |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #80 |
167. House GOP may try to weaken bill on torture |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #167 |
177. Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif. calls anti-torture bill "veto bait"? |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #70 |
92. He's an absolute embarrassment. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
52. despicable! |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
57. Here's one to hope |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. I wonder how Faux is going to spin this one... |
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physioex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Just curious, does Faux spin the news Pro-Republican..... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
74. It will be "pro-corporate"... |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
7. BUSH DOESN'T SUPPORT OUR TROOPS; BUSH SUPPORTS TORTURE! |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:32 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. The folks in Alabama should vote Jeff Sessions out of office |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
43. Surely someone is more disgusting -- isn't there someone???? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:37 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No, I think this is it. |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
89. I hate to tell you...but Tom DeLay holds that title..... |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
140. Only my birthplace, OK has both Senators voting yes to torture. Shameful |
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seejanerun (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. The OK duo is pretty bad, but TX has Cornyn |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #140 |
171. As a resident of Georgia it's sad but not uncommon to catch oneself |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. Bat shit crazy?... |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #172 |
195. Hey - YOU know it, and I know it.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. You said it. |
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Nickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
96. That's what I was thinking. Has he veto'd anything up to this point?? |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
202. He hasn't NEEDED to up to this point! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
67. Exactly! |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
160. Good one |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
8. Mr. Torture is placing loyalty to Gonzales and the Saudis over the troops. |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. This proving Bin Laden's point.......... |
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adaada (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #127 |
174. Too true...esp. the part about how this becomes a recruiting tool. |
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Dem2theMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
9. Now if we could only get those remaining pictures and videos released. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
10. How can I fight the war on terra if I don't torture those evil doers? |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
97. I love your bumpersticker!! |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #97 |
121. Yeah but Bushbots will assume the sticker is talking about Bush |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #121 |
136. Snark! |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
11. It's almost like they want to go down. n/t |
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WePurrsevere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
41. Hmm... maybe they're actually closet Anarchists? ;-) Sometimes it does |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. That's not tinfoil, IMHO. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
101. "deliberately and methodically setting out to destroy the established... |
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adaada (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #101 |
175. Interesting, isn't it, that on the extreme far left we have the anarchists |
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Gronk Groks (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #175 |
180. College professor of mine once said... |
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klyon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #175 |
192. BINGO that is true |
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FM Arouet666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. Veto away chimpy boy. |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 04:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
190. just throw some "gimmees" |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. alert the press--make the signs and bumper stickers-- |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
14. We have existing federal laws against torture |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:47 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. But surely you read all the Gonzales era |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
58. 1996 is Gonzales era? Odd, I thought Clinton was President then. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #58 |
102. "I thought Clinton was President then" |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. LOL! Well, the Clenis was in office when the the law was created |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. "but I'm not sure the clenis was thinking about the law"... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. LMAO! You have a point |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Please, do not LMAO the Clenis... |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
151. What? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. I'm well aware of how the Bush Regime justified their torture policy |
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chopper (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
40. there's a difference here... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
60. and the loopholes in Geneva? Will those close? |
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chopper (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. its easier |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. but the 1996 war crimes act is federal law |
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chopper (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #66 |
82. again |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
94. the 1996 law uses international law as it's basis (same as the new bill) |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #60 |
106. He will not be held accountable by either... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. That is my fear - that he will not be held accountable by either |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
196. "No geographic limitation" |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
47. Remember Gonzales and Chertoff and their infamous Torture Memo? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #47 |
62. I'm well versed in the Bush Regime's torture proclivity, yes |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. Now we know why Chavez called him "Mr. Dangerous"... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
170. "My God--they're not even hiding their evil anymore!!" |
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baby_bear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. There is still the House to contend with |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. The anti-torture amendment will not be in the Conference Report |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
18. Out in the open now. Bush / Rumsfeld / Republican house stand for torture. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
19. Such an achievement for posterity... |
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Dudley_DUright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
33. With his first and only veto to date no less |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:15 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. And his only veto will be overridden. |
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Boo_Radley (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
55. That's actually going to be kind of funny. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
20. Let's get junior to the Hague. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
68. There is no death penalty at The Hague |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
22. Just when I think we can sink no lower.... nt |
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SledDriver (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
23. Why does Bush hate the troops? |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
24. suuuuuure |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
176. Yeah, I wonder why this is being printed in a British paper, not in the US |
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Burried News (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
25. The Duck is officially lame and Qwacking up. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
28. Unbelievable - and insane. |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
29. Are they TRYING to make themselves look bad at this point? |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. As stupid as when his EPA weakened rules on Arsenic in drinking water |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
173. Wish I knew... |
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Gronk Groks (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:14 AM Response to Reply #173 |
181. His fundie base has to realize that "torture" is what the Romans... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:27 AM Response to Reply #181 |
182. Who would Jesus torture?... |
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Gronk Groks (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:46 AM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Lemmings you say... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:17 AM Response to Reply #183 |
184. It does seem like a... |
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Gronk Groks (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #184 |
185. Natural followers?? Genetically programmed to follow... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 01:41 AM Response to Reply #185 |
186. I'll say it's late... |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
30. Now the idiot wants to be known as "The Torture President." |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
49. Works for me. "Il Douche, The TORTURE Leader" |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
31. Good lord, this is so fucking ridiculous! |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
32. So this idiot is going to veto a bill 90 senators voted for? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
34. Amazing. nt |
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remfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
36. Oh brother...ever heard of a conference committee? |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
37. at 90 to 9, they should be able to override the veto easily... |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
64. ding ding ding.....! Bush beyond dumb... |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
38. To anyone who still believes Bush isn't truly evil....... |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
39. Ah, the compassionate conservative pro-torture pResident |
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mallard (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Re: "The administration said Congress was attempting to... |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
48. God told him to. n/t |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
198. Yep. Just like the real AntiChrist would claim, isn't it? |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
50. Can they muster enough votes to over-ride a Veto? |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:06 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. This will be Bush's first veto....and it is for torture |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
69. I dunno...is 90 votes enough...? lol nt |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:09 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. If they can hold fast and not crumble under the "whip" |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Who's the Senate equivalent of the "Hammer"? Dr. Fristian? |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
53. His new moniker: "The Torture President" |
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No Exit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
56. Wow, finally something moved him enough to inspire a veto... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
59. If this is to appease his base |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
63. I cannot believe this. I hope it gets major Corp Media coverage. |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
72. Whoa Whoa WHOA! It is an amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Yes....I think we need to know more about this before we get all worked |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
75. Did I miss his first veto somehow? |
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AbbyR (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
76. Do you folks think he will HAVE to veto? |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Yes, but, he could have twice the support in the house |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
81. Who would Jesus Torture? |
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The_Counsel (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
83. Wait a Minute... 90-9??? |
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AllegroRondo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. True, but Congress would have to vote on it again |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
84. "the measure forbidding torture passed by 90 to nine"?...WOW! |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
85. Who were the 9 that voted against it? |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #85 |
103. Roll Call |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #103 |
114. Doesn't not voting mean he wasn't there? |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #114 |
134. Yeah, I guess so. |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #134 |
148. He could have had a half-assed reason, but |
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fearnobush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #134 |
155. Corzine is running for Gov in NJ. His lead has shrunk from 12 pts to 7 pts |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:46 PM Response to Reply #85 |
179. The Bush Era Ends: Only Nine Senators Vote to Torture More Prisoners |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
86. is he going to "line veto" it? because it's attached to the Pentagon bill |
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AllegroRondo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. I believe the line veto no longer exists |
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Caoimhe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
87. Let him do it |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
93. Bush threatens veto - Pillsbury Dough Boy vows "edgier" image |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
95. Last nail in Fearless Leader's coffin? |
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Old Vet (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Cant fix Stupid, Period. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. another sad day in America. |
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Imalittleteapot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
100. Way to go Bush. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
105. Bush supports torture. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
111. I heard it claimed by some talking head that the bill would prevent |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
112. Is this anywhere in the American press? n/t |
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stevietheman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
113. What more proof do we need? Bush is PRO-TORTURE. n/t |
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elmerdem (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. bill with amendment was passed 97-0 by the senate |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #116 |
141. I like your last point, that's how insane this country and this Prez are |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
115. This requires many letter to the Editor of newspapers and our Congress |
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ryanmuegge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
118. This, like the Miers appointment, is just a big "fuck you" |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
119. "Club Gitmo" snicker, snicker. "Culture of Life" "Morals" etc. n/t |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
120. They approved it...97-0! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
123. Bush is at 37% by CBS poll, will drop to 35 % if he vetoes. |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
124. So...does anyone know what the deal is with the House? |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. The way I understand it is that the House approved a bill |
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volitionx (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
125. Bushbaby Gotta Have His Torture! |
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nickgutierrez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
126. Is this his first veto? |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. Yes. nt |
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Qanisqineq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
128. WTF? |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
129. this will die in committee |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. It's out of committee. Both sides have voted. Now goes to BoyKing |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. self-delete |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #132 |
163. not the Senate committee |
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TheModernTerrorist (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
133. anyone willing |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
135. Who I have contacted regarding this matter. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
139. but in June 04 he said "we do not condone torture. I have never ordered |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. If Congress was really serious about upholding the .. |
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norml (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #139 |
188. "German soldiers in particular, do not take revenge on defenseless" |
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skrambledchaos (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
144. hmm.... |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #144 |
146. Why IS he saying he would veto it? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
145. May well be a "show vote". Bill goes back to a joint House/Senate conf. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
147. But God talked to him into Vetoing the Bill...... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
149. I want them to pay for this in blood! |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
150. That's a smart political move...NOT! |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
152. Unlike Bush, most Congresscritters will be seeking re-election someday |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
154. OMG!!! |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
156. Do you think Bush reads these things? |
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H2O (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Ummm |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
161. But he's Emperor Chimpus Idiotus |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
162. I thought we were better than this, once upon a time |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. That was a good speech by McCain |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
164. i'm not sure how bush thinks this is going to help his image. every part |
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aresef (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
165. If anybody's revolting |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
168. What an absolute disgrace |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
169. Bush will veto anti-torture law????? WTF |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-07-05 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
178. Smirk is just begging for more asterisks *** n/m |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
187. Democrats Should Talk About This |
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progressivepolitics (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
189. The first veto? |
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klyon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
191. 90 to 9 .....most Republicans support....? |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #191 |
200. Yes - more evidence chimpy ordered torture at Abu Ghraib/Gitmo |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-08-05 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
194. An appropriate legacy for *? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #194 |
201. Bush's veto opportunities: |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
199. Torture issue is key to bring down the Neocons. They can rationalize war |
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