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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:30 PM
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WP: Scandals Take Toll On Bush's 2nd Term
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/13/AR2005101301955.html

Scandals Take Toll On Bush's 2nd Term

By Jim VandeHei and Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A01


A string of scandals involving some of the most powerful Republicans in Washington have converged to disrupt President Bush's agenda, distract aides and allies, and exacerbate political problems for an already weakened administration, according to party strategists and White House advisers.

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"It looks like a perfect storm," said Joseph E. diGenova, a Republican and former independent counsel, who noted that so many investigations can weigh on an administration. "People have no idea what happens when an investigation gets underway. It's debilitating. It's not just distracting. It's debilitating. It's like getting punched in the stomach."

Beyond the short-term problems, Republicans are particularly anxious about the sprawling investigations into conservative lobbyist Jack Abramoff, whose business and political dealings regularly brought him into contact with dozens of lawmakers and top White House officials. Among insiders, he was one of the most familiar faces among the generation of operatives and lobbyists who came of age when Republicans took control of Congress 11 years ago.

"The one that people are most worried about is Abramoff because it seems to have such long tentacles," said former congressman Vin Weber (R-Minn.), a lobbyist with close ties to the White House. "This seems to be something that could spread almost anywhere . . . and that has a lot of people worried."

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:33 PM
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1. I wish that Bush's comeuppance was somehow isolated --
-- from the well-being of the country as a whole, but if the little puke had just read DU and other blogs early on, he wouldn't be in half the trouble he's in now.

I hope the historians are getting ready to lump the little asshole in the Harding - Nixon group of disgraceful American presidencies.

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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:34 PM
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3. Does it say above...
...that Abramoff has long testicles? That will serve him well I guess in jail.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:36 PM
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5. 'Can't speak for the man's testicles but I'd venture to say --
-- that his heart is teensy-weensy.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:34 PM
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2. No need to worry unless you're guilty.
That's what they're always telling us.

I like the use of the word "tentacles" in this article. There's more than one set of tentacles in this scenario of avalanching scandals.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:35 PM
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4. perhaps repugs should remember the old chestnut
Don't do the Crime if you can't do the Time.

or perhaps in keeping with their nonstop protestations of how christian they are (small "c" because most of them are not true Christians in their actions) - What Would Jesus Do?

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:08 PM
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11. Don't go to bed with no price on your head
(Don't do it!)

Yeah, I remember the theme song from Baretta. Too bad Robert Blake doesn't.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:38 PM
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6. Blast from the past
(snip)

The current atmosphere is not what Bush envisioned as a candidate in 2000. Coming off the Clinton years, which were dominated by seven independent counsel investigations and the impeachment of the president, Bush vowed to run a cleaner and more ethical Washington. "In my administration," Bush told voters in Pittsburgh in October 2000, "we will ask not only what is legal but what is right, not what the lawyers allow but what the public deserves."
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:50 PM
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9. I guess he has made it clear what he thinks we the public "deserve"
Oh, for the days of at least one side of the Legislative branch and an independent counsel...

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:42 PM
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Sure, Dems are just "manufacturing" scandals.
Yeah, that's right, WE'RE the liars.

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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:42 PM
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7. Thing about "perfect storms": it's not the storm, but the run-up
Thing about "perfect storms": it's not the storm, but the run-up that matters.

The brazenness of Bush's two narrow "electoral" "victories" has lead to an unwarranted swagger and arrogance of power. That has lead to a cycle of arrogance and ignorance that has raised the stakes for mistakes. Now that the facade of the Potemkin Bushista village is crumbling, the fall will be all the more greater.

Perhaps there will be a fifth episode in a revised edition of the excellent "The March of Folly : From Troy to Vietnam" by Barbara W. Tuchman.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:49 PM
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8. Too damn bad Joe didn't feel that way when BC was Pres!
"People have no idea what happens when an investigation gets underway. It's debilitating. It's not just distracting. It's debilitating. It's like getting punched in the stomach."


Joe was one of the attorneys/talking heads working day and night to take Bill down! Well, since he now seems to realize what it's like, I hope he's directly enjoying his stint in the broiler!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:07 AM
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17. Despite all that
at least Clinton was still able to get a lot done. Peace and prosperity for 8 years is not a bad record despite the odds. Just imagine what he could have accomplished if the Repugs hadn't insisted in harassing him in every way they could.

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:26 AM
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18. I thought about this all the time. Clinton was able to get up every day
and do his job, even with the hounds of hell at his feet.
I did wonder what kind of country it would have been if he had
not had to contend with the repugs waging war against him everyday.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:34 AM
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19. Joe and his wife Victoria Toensing
had a nice cottage industry of Clinton-bashing for themselves. Despicable people.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:17 AM
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21. maybe we can retire these two to the trash heap...n/t
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:38 AM
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25. He's got a great singing voice tho. He played in Brigadoon in a
local theater years ago---the starring guy who falls in love with Fiona. What a voice on that schmuck!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:05 PM
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10. Good! It's about time he started paying some tolls
He's been getting a free ride for long enough.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:15 PM
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12. From WPs lips to God's ears. I've been waiting for this headline. n/t
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 10:18 PM
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13. It is what hasn't happened
What has NOT happened is a terrorist attack or war to bail out the crime ridden WH before the bills come due. Katrina was not only a poor substitute as they clumsily, lazily, tried to take the easy capital reserved solely for a terrorist attack, it was a tremendous reverse.

What we are seeing is the disappointed expectation of a major terrorist distraction to ceded them the easy escape route from accountability.
They simply rot away now.
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bpyatt Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:45 AM
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14. Scandals Take Toll On Bush's 2nd Term
Most like that Rove and Libbey to be indicted within 2 weeks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/13/AR2005101301955_pf.html

Scandals Take Toll On Bush's 2nd Term

By Jim VandeHei and Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, October 14, 2005; A01



A series of scandals involving some of the most powerful Republicans in Washington have converged to disrupt President Bush's agenda, distract aides and allies, and exacerbate political problems for an already weakened administration, according to party strategists and White House advisers.

With Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove returning to a grand jury as early as today, associates said the architect of Bush's presidency has been preoccupied with his legal troubles, a diversion that some say contributed to the troubled handling of Harriet Miers's nomination to the Supreme Court. White House officials are privately bracing for the possibility that Rove or other officials could be indicted in the next two weeks.

Bush's main partners on Capitol Hill likewise are spending time defending themselves as the president's legislative initiatives founder. The indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) for alleged campaign funding illegalities has thrown Republicans into one of the most tumultuous periods of their 11-year reign and created the prospect of a leadership battle. And while Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) deals with a subpoena in an insider-trading investigation, a bipartisan majority rebuked Bush over torture policies.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 04:47 AM
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15. as my partner quipped
"Katrina interrupted the kook-aid supply lines..."
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:36 AM
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24. Very funny!
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:00 AM
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16.  Admin takes toll on America.
n/t
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 06:07 AM
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20. Should've taken toll in his 1st term
but the media ignored them.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:29 AM
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22. Well, "If they didn't do anything wrong they have nothing to worry about"
Those good old repuke words come to mind.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:35 AM
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23. "Old News, It's Already Been Vetted, Move Along"
Even if Rovie's not indicted, and a few others with him, I'm enjoying this right now.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:48 AM
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26. "It's debilitating. It's like getting punched in the stomach."
Got 'nother place I'd like to punch 'em an' it ain't above the belt.
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:48 PM
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27. Yea, it is more like a swift kick in these inbreds balls.
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