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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:56 PM
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(Karen) Hughes spells out ways to win hearts (in Middle East)

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Hughes spells out ways to win hearts

WASHINGTON, Oct. 14 (UPI) -- The United States was working on changing its policy to win over public opinion in the Muslim world, a top official said Friday.

"For 60 years, America basically ignored the freedom deficit in the Middle East, hoping that stability would achieve security. And as a result ... we got neither," Karen Hughes, the Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy, said at a speech at the George Washington University in Washington. "Instead we got conditions so cancerous that people were willing to fly airplanes into buildings full of innocent people."

She said Washington now stood for freedom and would work to marginalize religious extremists; and work on common interests and values with other nations.

Hughes, a top aide to President Bush who last week was reported to have engineered a meeting between the president and Palestinian officials, said the United States would work to "engage, exchange, educate and empower" Americans and people from other countries in order to reach its stated goals.


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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:57 PM
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1. 'Freedom deficit"???
So we have a "freedom surplus" here, and need to export it to keep balance in the world???

That must be the real reason behind the PATRIOT Act, we had too much freedom!
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:58 PM
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29. Now there's one for ya...
"They hate us for our surplus freedom."
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 10:16 PM
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30. That dubious-sounding phrase seems to date back to a 2002 UN report
Arab Human Development Report 2002. So for once it may not be the Bush regime responsible for the weird use of English.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:58 PM
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2.  work to marginalize religious extremists
obvious irony
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:58 PM
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3. What, by firing Bush? nt
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:58 PM
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4. Hughes is less likely to win hearts in the Middle East
than she is in the US, though Bush's approval numbers are already in the 30s stateside. Karen's numbers will be even lower.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:35 PM
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17. Shhh, I'll tell you a little secret...
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:38 PM by BrotherBuzz
Karen Hughes' only job is to shore up sagging Bush* approval numbers with the 'base'. It's hard work.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:44 PM
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26. Exactly right. eom
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:46 PM
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27. Hughes Saw but Couldn’t Conquer (Arab News)
Ibtissam Al-Bassam, Arab News

<snip> Ms. Hughes must have been taken aback when in Turkey, a secular state with a large Muslim population, women expressed their anger at the invasion of Iraq and their sharp criticism of US policy in the Middle East. One Turkish woman said, “This war is really, really bringing your positive efforts to the level of zero”. Another added,” war makes the rights of women completely erased and poverty comes after war — and women pay the price.” <snip>

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=71702&d=14&m=10&y=2005



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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:25 PM
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28. Everything Karen Hughes said on that ill-fated trip was...
tailored for domestic 'base' consumption. Fundy codespeak - Karen speaks it and delivered.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 01:59 PM
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5. Words escape me at this moment
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:03 PM by Gman
I'm friggin' speechless.

She acts like everything's ok now.

And on a sidenote, Hughes didn't talk like that 5 years ago. She's been in DC way too long.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:04 PM
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6. Washington now stands for freedom?
:rofl:
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:05 PM
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7. Karen Hughes didn't know what she's talking about
She sounds like advocating the Iraq-style solution: export of democracy by violence.

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LatinoSocialist Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:09 PM
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8. "she said Washington now stood for freedom"
YEAAAAHHH RIIIGGGGGHHHTTT.

First thing first...stop financing Israel's warmachine
Second, take your forces out of Iraq.
Third, stop sending arms and financing to Arab autocrats
Fourth, all U.S. military bases in the Mid East...OUT!

Then we can start talking on how to build better relations.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:10 PM
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9. Read: Americans should scare people into backing

conservative monarchies, e.g. the Saud family, in the region.

Good thinking, Gilligan.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:10 PM
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10. What the fuck is she talking about?
9/11 did not happen because the terrorists were protesting their lack of freedom.

Jesus Christ, we cannot possibly have a successful counterterrorism policy when all our premises are totally wrong.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:10 PM
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11. But...but.....but...
"...Reagan proved deficits don't matter"

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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:12 PM
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12. It's always about US and OUR pain, huh, Karen?
So America is the only country that has experienced terrible things lately? Guess what, you're partially correct: conditions became cancerous, all right... they became so cancerous that a country was willing to bomb and occupy and steal from a country full of people who'd never done a damned thing to them. Hundreds of thousands of their dead just somehow doesn't equal our 3000 dead, does it? Because American lives are more sacred. (genuflect)

Karen, you were a marble-mouthed two-bit shit reporter when I lived in D/FW 20 years ago, and that's all you'll ever be. At our house, we used to call each other over to the TV whenever you were on because we thought the way you talked was absofuckinglutely hilarious. You must know where the bodies are buried to have gotten where you are, because it sure isn't talent or brains, cupcake.

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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:18 PM
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13. "Freedom deficit" in other countries
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 02:28 PM by SOS
are of absolutely no interest to these creepy hypocrites.

In Burma, a military junta uses rape and mass murder against ethnic minorities.
The legally elected President spends years under arrest.
And now the junta army is forcing villagers to work as slaves on the new Unocal pipeline route.
Those who resist are tied up and set on fire, including women and children.
But since it's American oil company stooges doing the auto-da-fe's it's A-OK with the idiot Texas Mom.
Call it a Bonfire of Karen Hughes' Vanity.

When will the miserable, cretinous, hypocrite Hughes go on a "freedom mission" to Burma?

Next stop Equatorial "Exxon" Guinea! Just put up a Potemkin village in front of the torture centers before she arrives.





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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:22 PM
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14. She said Washington now stood for freedom and would work to marginalize re
Including Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, etc ad nauseum?

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feminazi Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:24 PM
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15. god, they just don't get it at all, do they?
i don't know why i'm surprised at her ignorance.

:shrug:
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 02:29 PM
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16. Hughes needs to put on a veil and burka and shut up
If she really wants to reach out to these fundie nuts in the Middle East, that's just what she's gonna have to do. I really don't think they're interested in a woman who looks and acts like former Chicago Bears great Dick Butkus (without the mustache).
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:42 PM
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18. Yes, the way out is spelled "Democratic President & Congress"
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:58 PM
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19. In a veiled way she is referring I think to past US tacit support of
autocratic arab regimes and the negative effects flowing therefrom. And I think that has a lot of validity which is surprising coming from an idiot like her. That said, the Bush Aministration are assclowns when it comes to execution and determining the smartest way to deal with an issue even if they can manage to spot it. And this Woman's vacuous, repetitive pablum filled speech writing still echoes in my head from so many stupid GWB speeches, constantly assasinating my IQ.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 05:59 PM
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20. Sounds like Karen is trying to baffle us all with bullsh*
standard procedure with this bunch.

What is she trying to say here? I can't decode this PR-laced message.
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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:03 PM
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21. Hughes excels at bullsh**
Hughes excels at bullsh**

Sadly, it makes sense that Hughes would utter this absurd bullshit. She wasn't given the job she has due to her abilities, she was selected because she's loyal to shrub and won't deviate from the delusional party line. Her "mission" was doomed from the start.


As for those who claims she's very intelligent? Here's a few things she's said:

Our Constitution cites "one nation under God"

I've worked for the President for ten years now, and I've never been in a meeting where he didn't ask tough, probing questions.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:08 PM
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22. "Tough, probing questions"
Like, "Will you tell me WTF you're talking about?"
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:15 PM
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23. Oh, I agree with you that she isn't qualified for this position.
I can only imagine what those in ME thought while being forced to listen to her blabber on and on during her recent tour.

Her approach reminds me of a bull in a china shop for some reason.


Welcome to DU, Mokawanis. Glad to have you here! :hi:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:37 PM
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24. Engage, exchange, educate, and empower- the four "E"s
of Karen means: EEEK!!!!!!!!!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:41 PM
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25. State's Hughes To Visit Malaysia, Indonesia on "Listening Tour"
Trips to Latin America, Europe in coming months also planned, she says

By Stephen Kaufman
Washington File White House Correspondent

Washington -- Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy Karen Hughes will embark on a “listening tour” of Indonesia and Malaysia the week of October 17, and is planning trips to Latin America and Europe in the months ahead.

Hughes, citing the positive experiences of her visits to Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Egypt in late September, announced the new round of visits October 14 at George Washington University in Washington at its Forum for Public Diplomacy.

She said the recent listening tour in Turkey and Arab countries was both “fascinating” and a “learning experience,” and she welcomed the level of debate and discourse she heard on issues ranging from Iraq, women’s empowerment and the Bush administration’s efforts to promote democracy in the region. <snip>

“I styled my recent tour as a listening tour. I wanted to go and meet with people that Americans don't always meet with and hear from people that Americans don't always hear from,” she said. <snip>

http://usinfo.state.gov/usinfo/Archive/2005/Oct/14-778522.html

:crazy:
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 11:12 PM
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31. Try this idea out, Karen Hughes: STOP LYING, dumbass n/t
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