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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:41 AM
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Rice: Iraq Constitution Probably Approved
Rice: Iraq Constitution Probably Approved

Sunday October 16, 2005 11:01 AM

AP Photo MOSB111

By ANNE GEARAN

AP Diplomatic Writer

LONDON (AP) - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Sunday that
Iraqi voters have probably approved a constitution.

"There's a belief that it has probably passed," the top U.S. diplomat
told reporters Sunday.

"We'll see, but that's the general assessment that it has probably passed."

Rice said her information came from "people on the ground who are trying
to do the numbers, trying to look at where the votes are coming from
and so forth." She stressed, however, that she does not know the outcome
for certain.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5347436,00.html

Jumping the gun, aren't we, Dr. Rice?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:45 AM
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1. That would be the carnal sense of "do" the numbers...
What a bunch of amateurs. Those really skilled at putting the fix in would be quiet at this moment.
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PerceptionManagement Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 03:34 PM
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16. Constitution = Speed bump to civil war in Iraq.
Congrats Chimpy! You've weakened a nation and hastened our demise.

How on earth can we made the repugs accountable for their catastrophic mistakes? Is it possible?

To paraphrase what was said about Frank Sinatra, "It's a Repug world. We just breath dirty air they created."
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:55 PM
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17. Hi PerceptionManagement!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:46 AM
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2. when you rig elections, you know the outcome ahead of time.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:47 AM
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3. Oh good! We do so want Iraqi women to be stoned to death for adultery.
Edited on Sun Oct-16-05 05:48 AM by LynnTheDem
It's the American Way of Life. Well, if you're a Talebornagain.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 05:54 AM
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4. Good to see you back and on top of your game Lynn.... taleborn....
oh my.... how you do manage to reveal the hypocrisy of it all.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 09:14 AM
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12. I'll just bet Falwell and the rest
of the radical American clerics will be so jealous when the first stone has been thrown. Of course, the fact that their own Jesus had something to say about being without sin, and throwing stones, will be lost on them.

I am so very sorry, Iraqi sisters. I know life under Saddam was bad, but at least you had a chance to get educations, enter professions, and walk around like adults, needing no man's permission to leave your home. Your new status as property is being brought to you by the most corrupt, worst president in the world, George Bush.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:15 AM
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5. "She stressed, however, that she does not know the outcome." Whoops!
I suppose a reporter asked her: "And how would you know the outcome before the votes have been counted?"
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 06:35 AM
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6. From what I am reading
Even if there is no fix, they look likely to reject it in 2 provinces and come very close to rejecting it in a 3rd. With results like that and a constitution that really sticks it to the Sunnis, it looks like the table is being all set for a long term insurgency in about 25% of the country. That includes a huge border area where the insurgents will be able to be supplied by Sunnis living in other countries for years and years.

Its amazing how much this sounds like Vietnam and Cambodia, the whole thing.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:23 AM
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7. NPR noted this morning that a majority of voters had not read the
proposed constitution and some did not even for what they were voting.

Voting "Yes" does not make it approved if it is unknown.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:41 AM
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8. Did she also say that
they deliberately withheld news that five more US soldiers were killed in one attack yesterday. Like the rest of thwm, she's 'fried rice'.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 07:52 AM
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9. So, they have an elected gov't and a constitution
that's democracy, right? Can the soldiers come home now?

:(
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:16 AM
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10. Cindy needs to pounce on this!
It's nice to see Rice Lying again:

"She stressed, however, that she does not know the outcome
for certain."

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 02:51 PM
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14. Yikes! She's scary looking in that picture. n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 08:31 AM
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11. Great news ! Now the troops can come home !
If they don't bring the troops home now, does that mean we're just propping up a puppet government?

This shit won't last five minutes after the US military departs.

Of course, Bu$h and the neocons want us in Iraq forever to keep raking in the bucks for robber barons.



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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 12:27 PM
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13. Wonder why they never mentioned that the UN had to step in...
Democracy my ass!

Peace.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-05 02:56 PM
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15. Iraq voters seen approving constitution
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051016/wl_nm/iraq_dc_64;_ylt=Av2PvOhLkqUqFwUsCp6351BX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Iraq voters seen approving constitution

By Andrew Quinn and Mariam Karouny
30 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi voters have probably approved a new U.S.-backed constitution, overcoming fierce Sunni Arab opposition in a vote Washington hopes will boost its beleaguered strategy in Iraq, results showed on Sunday.

Early counts from Saturday's referendum indicated the vote split as expected along largely communal lines, reflecting the bitter ethnic and religious tensions that have cost thousands of Iraqi lives since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

"This is a very positive day for the Iraqi people and as well for world peace," U.S. President George W. Bush told reporters in Washington. "Democracies are peaceful countries."

Tight security kept the polls mostly trouble-free although five U.S. soldiers and a Marine were killed in the Sunni west, the military said, raising the U.S. death toll in Iraq to 1,971.
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