White House Prepares for Possible Indictments

The White House is bracing itself for the possible indictment of senior officials as Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, prepares to wrap up his two-year inquiry into the leaking of a covert CIA agent's name.


Further details about the role of White House officials were underlined in a report in the New York Times on Sunday.

Judith Miller, the reporter released from jail after 85 days after she agreed to testify before a grand jury, gave an account of her conversations with Scooter Libby, chief of staff to Dick Cheney, vice-president. She also admitted that Mr Fitzgerald had asked whether Mr Cheney had personally authorised Mr Libby to speak.

In a more ominous sign, Ms Miller said Mr Fitzgerald's questions went beyond the leaking of the CIA name to probe the administration's selective leaking of intelligence information ahead of the Iraq war. During the hearing, she said he repeatedly asked how Mr Libby handled classified information and showed her some documents.

More at link:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/2285dbae-3e7c-11da-a2cb-00000e2511c8.html

:applause: :bounce:

:rofl:

...but prepare for disappointment as well.

Now - How does the WH prepare?
- deeper bunkers?
Stockpiles of Jim Beam? Tamiflu?
Terra update?
Laura Bush pregnant?

My gut tells me we're in for an interesting week,indeed.

:popcorn:

Do you like yours buttered, or plain?

Today's Full Moon in Aries is also a partial eclipse of the Moon. This annual opposition of the Sun in Libra and the Moon in Aries heightens the contrast between partnership and independence.

The eclipse is a more powerful lunation, one where the reappearance of old habits makes it obvious that something has to change.!!!!!

http://www.stariq.com/

the merde to hit the ventelateur. Dear ghod, this could be the most fun we have ever had with our clothes on. ;-)

Holy Crap !

Bring it on.

insides of the White House?

This will indeed be fun to watch! I just hope they get Novak.

:blush:

.

:rofl:

There were times when I thought this crowd would never get caught and that people would just continue blindly waving flags for the Iraq war.

way back in Feb. 03, before the invasion, before all the lies were exposed, before the full horror and cost of it was known. 58%! They didn't trust Bush THEN. That number dipped only once, during the few weeks of the invasion with U.S. troops at max risk, then went right back to nearly 60%, where it stayed throughout the election. It is over 70% today.

The American people never supported this war. Never!

----

i.e., "people would just continue blindly waving flags for the Iraq war." (Yes, some people do, but they are, and always have been, a distinct minority.)

and I'm gonna cry like a baby if this brings these bastards down.

Tears of joy, of course.

approaching at slow motion?

:toast:

but damm sure keep that popcorn coming. :toast:

it might be very hard on our country. People will have to deal with it.

Maybe the media and the sheeples will be more alert to total bullshit coming from the repukes in the future. Maybe the repukes will be done in for a long time after the curtain is pulled back to show the truth of their "philosophy" of "screw the public."

But it's going to be bumpy for awhile.

How can honor, truth, dignity and trust be restored in this climate where the republicans and this administration in particular have set their collective and quite deliberative sights on destroying faith in democracy?
It bears serious thinking.

I brought popcorn reinforcements. Somebody else please get the drinks.

...before the eggs are hatched.

It's just very difficult to not feel some level of joy after feeling so outraged for so long.

lie just wiped from the news and public conscience like teflon - I don't think a darn thing is going to happen - - not to the WH, Delay, Frist, Lay, etc.

I am just speechless and so angry at what has happened in our country these last few years, and I don't think it's done yet ... so I am not feeling too hopeful. Sorry.

after two years of painstaking testimony and research. Somebody has to do some answering for all the inexplicable discrepancies and blatant contradictions in this whole story. At the very least, Libby is toast. Hopefully Rove too. Let's hope Fitzgerald can't be bought.

shouldn't he be indicted too?

I would love to see Evil Dick go down in flames.

and the lies that were hatched by the WHIG and told to the world to launch this disastrous war. Such traitors. Such traitors.

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

But I don't think it will really do the job of distracting from the indictments which I believe are coming. They would need something spectacular for that. I think maybe elements of the status quo are deeply disappointed in Bush and the neo-cons. A power struggle will go on behind the scenes, and it might even become obvious to the rest of us. We are headed for interesting times.

Way past time to take long-dead Osama out of the freezer.

to concoct a coherent terror threat distraction.

I'm prepared.

:)

I never watch those things, but I wish I had seen that one.

You can't blame Snotty for being surprised that it doesn't. The press corps has lapped it up for years.

in Washington I'm sure as well as in some news organizations.:popcorn:

but have you noticed that the talking heads don't look particularly happy?

That's what happens when you back a liar. You look bad. They might have thought of that before they became media whores.

<snif>

"Criminilizing politics".

So to them, outing a CIA agent in order to undermine the credibility of somebody who doesn't get with the program is

"Politics", and shouldn't be "criminalized".

Okay.

isn't criminal either, apparently.

To: jimbo123
Valerie Wilson was Valerie Plame and known in Washington by that name. She only married Joe a few years ago. Novak probably knew them when they were dating or something like that.
When Wilson called Novak, before the article, Wilson told Novak to leave my wife out of it. Why? Wifie got Joe the Niger job and THAT is what Novak knew and wanted to reveal. Joe took the bait and outed his wife in response.


17 posted on 10/16/2005 4:23:04 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)

I don't have a tv so I haven't seen.
Regarding your earlier point in post 14, I agree that this is going to be hard on the country.
Actually I think that this is why it's unfolding this way through the judicial branch instead of the legislative branch. In addition to the fact that the legislative branch is controlled by the Republicans, I've thought for some time that a lot of congressfolk on both sides of the aisle remember how unsettling Watergate was & are well aware that this is more far-reaching. I don't think their foot-dragging has been purely partisan fear, but also a larger fear of the consequences.

(also, hi Janx - this is 56kid writing)

:hi:

Of course Congress doesn't want to deal with it. Nobody does. And the freepers, poor fools, are still trying to figure it out. They've been so busy infighting about Miers and sitting back on their laurels that they've paid very little attention.

It's pretty sad.

the night that Nixon resigned. We drove over to Ohio State's campus and partied....we were sitting on the curb drinking beer at 2:00 am...2 cops walk up and we tell them how happy we are...and so were they! They said to drink up...can't be sitting out here drinking all night.

What are 'they' afraid of....that W's base of 38% is going to riot? Go to church and refuse to come out? Sell all their stocks? Now that might be what they are afraid of....!

Do you think the pugs are sitting around fighting over who will take over when W resigns? I wonder if anyone will commit suicide....nah, those neocons have no shame.

I just hope they don't let a dirty bomb loose somewhere...an animal is most dangerous when cornered.

I think they are afraid because Nixon's criminal behavior in Watergate was less damning to the whole system than Bush's.
It didn't result in an actual war for one thing pr impact foreign policy.
It did not effect the credibility of the United States as a whole the same way.

of our country for so long now that I assume EVERYONE has.

I told my mother the other day that I wish I could say to the world, especially Iraq, how sorry I am for what the US has done...but it was just a small number of US citizens with lots and lots of money that committed these atrocities...I am so sorry for what they did...and I don't know what I can do to make up for it. Please forgive them for they are cruel, unthinking, selfish, ignorant fools that deserve to live the rest of their lives in cages.

Let's stop these wars....let the warriors think of other ways to live their lives.

We all stopped, watched in total silence, after it was all over, you heard a few wows, damns, sonofabitches, President Fords??? and when does he leaves (no one seemed sad about it, mind you), and then we went back to work.

To: RWR8189
And the Clintons walked. Now that's justice for you.
2 posted on 10/16/2005 4:04:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne

To: DoughtyOne
And the Clintons walked. Now that's justice for you.
NO S#$T!!

41 posted on 10/16/2005 5:41:17 PM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503595/posts

I guess the wingnuts are more concerned about sex lies then about the traitoress act of revealing the secret identity of an American agent. Wow, the hypocrisy stuns me.

Most of them have no idea what's going on.

type a sentence could make that comparison

To: Dog Gone
"Excellent example of crappy agenda journalism."

I never thought there was much to this until I just herad Brit Hume say the WH was worried.
6 posted on 10/16/2005 4:09:19 PM PDT by blam



Well if Brit Hume says it, it MUST be true!

in Washington" ("no big deal").

Guess, what, Mr. Kristol: people get blowjobs all the time in Washington, too. So why was THAT a big deal?

you know that butterfly feeling? I've read so many, many articles, but for some reason I'm thinking that this just may happen.

Oh please make it happen. May GW and his band of criminals get what they deserve.

As I understand it, the investigation was prompted by the CIA. So yes, it might happen.

I have had the definite sense that there is a lot more to this than we are able to see, even with the additional information that is coming out (the NYT articles and other msm stuff). I'd be interested in any additional info you have regarding CIA involvement, because I sure hadn't heard about that.

so I read it somewhere. In the meantime, take a look at this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1854400

investigation itself was prompted by the CIA itself. And that I hadn't heard. I was just wondering if that is an assumption, given that the whole thing was triggered by the outing of Plame, or if there are some other bits of info floating around regarding involvement of the CIA in getting the investigation started, that I've just managed to miss.

Given the bad blood between the CIA and the WH over the war, it might not be so surprising.

at the end of October 2003.

Somehow I have missed a lot of the details of this, especially the earlier parts. I had somehow assumed it was the democrats asking for the investigation.

Of course, each bit of info only raises more questions...like, doesn't all this seem a bit odd in light of the fact that Daddy Bush was head of the CIA?

All three "guests" (ie hacks) acted as if none of this was a big deal and nothing would come of it.

Sad to say...with all the other scandals this administration walks away from... I have little hope.

indictments? The Franklin case was about a Pentagon analyst who was leaking classifed national security information to AIPAC lobbyists & the media. This case is about an official who leaked classified national security info to the media. Both prosecutions are taking place in the same courthouse - the U.S. federal court in Alexandria. It stands to reason that prosecutors would communicate & talk about the cases between themselves. Fitzgerald really seems to be widening the case from the "Plame leak" to the whole campaign to go to war in Iraq. Both Franklin & Libby were part of the "Office of Special Plans" formed by Cheney to make (up) a case for war w/selective intelligence. And Franklin pled guilty & agreed to cooperate with prosecutors the day before Miller agreed to testify. If Franklin's cooperating w/prosecutors, he'd reveal any dealings he had w/Miller or administration officials. What if Fitzgerald is planning to charge Libby & Franklin as part of the same criminal conspiracy to leak intelligence? This would expose not only the Plame leak, but also the entire "Office of Special Plans" operation, the false intelligence, and the propaganda campaign for the Iraq War. Fitzgerald seems bold & smart enough to try it - he must know that there's more here than one leak - and his questions show he is attempting to prove a larger agenda.

case--thanks for the information. I *do* think that Fitzgerald is looking at the "big picture"--how the administration abused the CIA and distorted intelligence, along with its relationship with media.

and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors, nor that it just happened, coincident with Miller's agreement to testify, nor that it's the same courthouse. Very interesting. I've been wondering about the OSP and this special "embed" contract Miller got, signed by Rumsfeld--and now it turns out she got a security clearance from him as well. There has been a lot of discusion about the WHIG--and Cheney, Libby, Rove et al--but not a word about Rumsfeld.

I think the big secret (what Treasongate was covering up) was a plot to plant WMDs in Iraq, for Judith Miller to "find." (Plot was foiled, probably by the "white hat" CIA, the good guys, who believe in honest information.) I figured that's what Cheney and Libby were up to--and now I think--h-m-m--Rumsfeld...lurking behind it all. Miller tied in real close there--re: Chalabi, Feith, the whole gang--got her creds there (at the Pentagon), used them to throw her weight around in Iraq (with the U.S. troops hunting for WMDs), probably got debriefed there when no WMDs were found.

Well, well...

can't these people direct their energy and talent toward doing GOOD, and making the world a BETTER place, with LESS killing, LESS war, LESS lies, LESS hatred?????

Enquiring minds REALLY want to know.........

Doing evil MAKES money.

That should tell you something about the nature of both people and money.

I've long believed what you suggest about the plan to "plant" WMD's in Iraq, but I've also believed that the outing of Valerie Plame wasn't because they were upset about her husband Joe Wilson's editorial in the NYT re. the Non-existent Yellowcake from Niger, but rather because Brewster Jennings (the front company that Plame worked for) was actually uncovering not only the plot to plant the WMD's, but also the actual trafficking of the WMD's that would have been used in Iraq and WMD's to "other" places throughout the world.

I think that this truly is much, much bigger than any of us can imagine....

<snip>

The White House is bracing itself for the possible indictment of senior officials as Patrick fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, prepares to wrap up his two-year inquiry into the leaking of a covert CIA agent's identity.

Judith Miller...gave an account of her conversation with Scooter Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff. She also admitted that Mr. Fiztgerald had asked whether Mr. cheney had personally authorized Mr. Libby to Speak.

In a more ominous sign, Ms. Miller said Mr. Fitzgerald's questions went beyond the leaking of the CIA name to probe the administration's selective leaking of intelligence information ahead of the Iraq war. <snip>

Can you believe it, this may turn out to be more explosive than we ever dreamed possible!!!

Link:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/2285dbae-3e7c-11da-a2cb-00000e2511c8.html

hearing the good news twice.

neither do I.

I always enjoy seeing lying, cheating, thieving sons-of-bitches get exactly what's coming to them.

What's the penalty for treason again?

Oh ya, I remember, something about lethal injection or gas.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

And that's only the anticipatory joy!

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

To: RWR8189
And the Clintons walked. Now that's justice for you.
2 posted on 10/16/2005 4:04:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503595/posts

I guess the wingnuts are more concerned about sex lies then about the traitoress act of revealing the identity of an American agent. Wow, the hypocrisy stuns me.

America cowers in shame. :rofl:

Than revealing the clenis.

So say the freepers. Cause the clenis is Hugh!!111 11

whereas Clinton only destroyed our trust...

Freepers are morans. Best to ignore them.

I really don't think what he did was any of my business. Or anybody else's except for his family. Sorry, I just won't be part of this "Democrats eating their own" anymore.

I was put in a position, through my job at that time, where I was continually defending Clinton as 'telling the truth'. It was very difficult for me in that job when he did 'fess up.

Did I think his lie and actions deserved the national attention it got... no. Did I think it meant he was unfit for the job and should be shunned for life... no. For me, it was shocking because I had defended him and then was on the receiving end of some very embarrassing and nasty ribbing for the remaining time I was employed there. BTW, one of the moran's I was defending him to was a high-level (highly annoying)pundit for the RW and one of the most obnoxious asses I ever hope to meet. And having to admit to that idiot that I was wrong and he was right was a very low day for me.

So, no, its not all about me but now you may understand why I say he betrayed my trust. There is more but that is the gist.

Peace.

What a bad position to be in!

I must say I did not have that situation. But, you know, the ultimate question was a matter of privacy. I have this feeling that most Americans really believe that they have a right to privacy, no matter what any right wing group says. So I would defend the turf of the right of each individual in our country to have that zone of privacy that the government could not invade. That's really what it's about, isn't it?

affairs were taken for granted and not discussed in polite society. The Europeans think we are nuts for our two-faced mores on sex. SEX can be all over the TV and in print and our kids can dress promiscuously but heavens, lets be surprised and shocked if prominent people in the news are actually engaging in it or having complicated lives, like the rest of us mortals, because of it.

Sorry for the rant. You have to know that I have this active fantasy where I am telling the 'evil pundit' off on national TV - maybe the Daily Show - and it feels so good! Never will happen but it still galls me to think that the moran was right.

losers? freepers! That's the brainless wingnut's answer to everything... "Clinton did it!" They need to get a new song, no one's dancin' to that tune anymore. These shitbags need to go back underground; at least they can openly flagellate themselves to pictures of hitler in the nude, wrapped only in a nazi flag. I hope this is more of the beginning of the end for neo-con neo-fascism... still... I've said it before, battin' at bush is like slappin' at a cork in a bucket of runny shit. The question remains, "How many lives does chimpula have?" Hopefully, we will soon have our answer.

:dem:
powwowdancer out

All I see is a collective of people that represent the population of the planet here in the USA where the true intentions of our collective hearts come together for the welfare of us all, being trampled on by those who would take advantage of our openness for there own isolated greed, To bring our world, this speck of dust in the universe to Oneness. Folks if we don't make it here, its over!

...something big.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

...I ache for my country. It's unimaginable how we could have fallen so far so fast.

Without information, it's impossible to know what the power elites are up to. The news media have given crooks and liars a free ride in favor of disappearing pretty white girls.

n/t

.....Of most concern is the role of Karl Rove, Mr Bush's chief political strategist. On Friday, he testified for a fourth time before the grand jury. Ahead of his testimony he was warned that there was no guarantee that he would not be indicted.

Mr Rove has not received a letter saying he is a target of the investigation but he has been adopting a lower profile recently. He was due to speak at a fund raising event on Saturday but cancelled. He did not return to the White House on Friday after his testimony, according to the New York Times.

Last week, there were signs that the White House's usual clinical competence at staging events was coming unstuck. In one omission, broadcasters were able to watch live footage of military officials prepping soldiers in Iraq for a satellite question and answer session with Mr Bush.

In an awkward moment on Friday, Scott McClellan, White House spokesman, was asked whether the administration was distracted by the CIA investigation. He attempted a joke, pretending to ignore the question. No one laughed. He tried again, his eyes swivelling away from the podium. “I'm sorry, I'm a little distracted up here,” he said. Again, no one laughed.


http://news.ft.com/cms/s/2285dbae-3e7c-11da-a2cb-00000e...

Time to polish the good silver, get the champagne on ice, wash the crystal flutes. Someone call and order Beluga...what the heck, it's a celebration!! And music. Music would be good. An orchestra during dinner, and perhaps a dance band after. Ladies, line up appointments for hair, facials and manicures. Gents, only tie and tails accepted for this grand event. Any suggestions on the flowers???

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how about just a tasteful arrangement of dead shrubs?

I hold no harm to anyone, but to remove a thorn from my brother there will be pain no doubt, it is an action of love, no less.

I like it. It'll keep me warm thru the winter. An eternal flame.

Black for evil, and orange for the color of an ill-fitting jumpsuit!

The least we can do is to throw a shindig twice as grand to watch the crown get knocked off!

and some :popcorn:

the more indictments and the higher up they go the better for all in the long run.

:toast:

those in the public who were fooled into following these criminals but they and us must meet on the common ground of love of country to make sure we deal with the lies as we should and leave them where we should in the past not to be relived again. We must refuse to sleep and stay active in the policies of our nation and our leaders.

But let us celebrate at the right time, when Ms. Justice is awaken.

:kick:

:rofl:

:nuke: the Bush Regime!! :smoke: 'em if ya got 'em!! LOL!

Playing the smallest violin in the world for Rove!
"My Heart Bleeds for You...NOT!!" :nopity:

:evilgrin:

Wasn't there another wave of unbridled expectation last weekend for this past week? Every new false alarm every week makes me think "whitewash!" all the more. I'd be ecstatic to be proven wrong.

once the indictments come down the man needs to get hisself a bulletproof vest. And make sure he's never alone, should overwhelming remorse cause him to become suicidal.

this is turning out even better than John Kerry winning the election. First the criminals had to be exposed to begin to open enough eyes.

By Caroline Daniel in Washington

The White House is bracing itself for the possible indictment of senior officials as Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, prepares to wrap up his two-year inquiry into the leaking of a covert CIA agent's name.

Further details about the role of White House officials were underlined in a report in the New York Times on Sunday.

Judith Miller, the reporter released from jail after 85 days after she agreed to testify before a grand jury, gave an account of her conversations with Scooter Libby, chief of staff to Dick Cheney, vice-president. She also admitted that Mr Fitzgerald had asked whether Mr Cheney had personally authorised Mr Libby to speak.

In a more ominous sign, Ms Miller said Mr Fitzgerald's questions went beyond the leaking of the CIA name to probe the administration's selective leaking of intelligence information ahead of the Iraq war. During the hearing, she said he repeatedly asked how Mr Libby handled classified information and showed her some documents.

more http://news.ft.com/cms/s/2285dbae-3e7c-11da-a2cb-00000e2511c8.html

Strange, seems like focus is more on Cheney than Rove?

They may have decided to let Scooter take the hit for the team....

It's up to Fitzgerald.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

Lord, it must suck to be them right now!

:)

I do believe they were trying like hell to shove it all one way or another...and it could well be that the Cheney team and the Rover team were at odds with one another, each wanting the other to take the hit...and as a result, they beat the pulp out of each other, unknowingly!

It must suck when you cannot depend on a witness to lie for you on the stand!!! Heh, heh!!!

....it can happen to you....

I was hoping it wasn't just me reading into it because I want to see that pig squeal so bad!

LOL!!!

Government Printing Office!!! Grab yer sharpie, write in your name and the date, and get the Monkey's autopen out!