Rice won't rule out U.S. troops in Iraq in 10 years (also Iran/Syria)

Momma, don't let you babies grow up to be soldiers....

This is really old news.Half of these bases are already build.

The Chicago Tribune last March (2004) said US engineers are constructing 14 "enduring bases,".

Those 14 enduring base have been planned for day 1.

I'm surprised here on DU most people don't know about this.

US bases in Iraq: sticky politics, hard math
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/040930-iraq-bases.htm

That was the point wasn't it?

They will be out in the desert, however, and not particularly involved with the population, somewhat akin to the military presence in Okinawa. (Idea being that Okinawa is/was relatively rural and not too much a part of Japanese life.)

It's a knife at the throat of a nuclear Iran, et al. Period.

Another DU'er posted an article by the Pittsburgh Post that says our forces crossed the border into Syria a week ago. What's the story here?

I'm talking about all US military personnel out of Iraq, except for the standard embassy guard.

I don't see it happening, even under a Democratic president. Even if we get to the point where our troops are no longer continually engaged with patrolling the cities and battling insurgents, we're still going to have bases and advisors and strike forces, unless ...

... what would it take for a COMPLETE withdrawal?

only knows what would end this round of greed.

don't want to leave behind and get the hell out of there. See the fall of Saigon in the 70's.

Why stay should be the question. We have no national defense reasons to stay other than to confiscate Iraq's national resources in order to enrich people who already have too much wealth and power.

That means there's NO PLAN at all--pretty fucking stupid--or that there is a plan and she's lying about it.

I CAN'T CALL HER A CHIMPANZEE--- for obvious reasons

by the BushMeister.

I'm going to curse. I hardly ever do it, but CondaLiar Rice deserves my Ratio of cussing for the day.

Fuck her. She's an idiot. Her day of reckoning may come sooner than we realize.

She's an intelligent articulate black woman promoted to the highest foreign policy office in the land. Her gender and color preempt many of the attacks that would otherwise be directed at such a high-profile frontman for the neocons. When she politely and calmly answers questions on the newstalk programs, she sounds so reasonable that anyone who wasn't well-informed on the issues can be persuaded to her point of view.

She's very good at her job -- when it's defined as public relations for the neocon imperialists. But as far as serving the American people in her former job as National Security Advisor and current job as Secretary of State, she's an intrinsic part of the disaster that is the Bush administration.

I wonder why the Freepers are not discussing this? Or Rice's "50 years" quote.

the boat is sinking.

By the way thanks for the advanced warning of wars yet to come "the United States could use military force against neighboring Syria and Iran". Rice is a pathetic excuse of the female human race.:spank:

To control the oil. Wasn't that the whole point of the invasion?

Do the people who are going to fight the wars in Iran and Syria-- and pay for them-- get to have any say in the matter? Doesn't look like it!


Lawmakers also pressed her on strategy for dealing with Iran and Syria. U.S. officials have accused Syria of allowing foreign fighters to flow across its borders into Iraq and Iran of supporting the insurgency.

Rice said the United States was using diplomatic means to urge a change in the behavior of both countries-- but she stopped short of ruling out military force. "I'm not going to get into what the president's options might be," Rice said. "I don't think the president ever takes any of his options off the table concerning anything to do with military force."

The United States on Wednesday refused to rule out possible military action against Syria but said it had not exhausted diplomatic moves to get Damascus to change its ways over Iraq and Lebanon.

Addressing the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said both Syria and Iran were allowing fighters and military assistance to reach insurgents in Iraq.

"Syria and Iran must decide whether they wish to side with the cause of war or with the cause of peace," Rice told a hearing called to discuss U.S. strategy in Iraq, where more than 150,000 U.S. troops are struggling to end an insurgency.

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Screamed the Chimpanzee and the officers who run HALLIBURTON

:eyes:

The next war oughta do the trick...

:eyes:

This is nothing desperation.

THE RATS ARE GETTING DESPERATE...
LORD KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE
OF NOW THAT THE TRAP IS CLOSING IN ON THEM!!!

BHN

"Fight or Flight." Snakes are most dangerous when cornered. It really does make one think what will they do in their desperation?

We're on our way out, unless the WH crazies start another one (or two) wars right next door. They're staying.

Oh wait, I forgot, we just bomb from 30,000 feet and let the diety sort it out on the ground.

...is to make this mis-administration think HARD before they try to take us willy nilly into war. No more rubber stamp adventures in places like Iraq to fund the BushCo private coffers.

Our Dem elected officials need to wake up and acknowledge that their failure to stand up to the Bush Cabal has emboldened them to believe they can engage in grand adventures with our military around the world with no opposition. The only thing going along does is put our nation at risk from spreading our military into areas that are not a direct threat to us, and preventing them from protecting us from threats that do exist because they are engaged elsewhere.

After Iraq, I would need a LOT of solid, verifiable data before I would support this criminal administration in another war. Having a Bush minion spout that Syria is threating us is not enough, especially when said minion has ALREADY been proven to be totally lacking in credibility.

It's ultimately their decision whether we go to war.

The Bush admin has appointed yes-men to the top positions in the Pentagon.

You mean WE are allowing it. Don't we supposedly control one side of each of those borders? We don't? Is that Iran's fault? Is that Syria's fault?

Who decided how many troops we would need for GWB's little adventure in Iraq, anyway? Do we not have enough to control the borders ourselves? Are you saying we sent that insufficient number of troops (vastly less than experienced generals said we would need) counting on help from the friggin' Syrians and Iranians?

Who are we to criticize two foreign countries' inability to control their borders when we can't control our own southern border? Who are we to demand that they step up security as a favor to our soldiers?

This is bullshit as a reason to go to war. They'd better come up with something better than this to justify it if they want to invade Iran and Syria.

UPS man, Mailman, Doorman, better be careful. You could be draft material for the next one.

be a peace presidunce, these whackos are sure reading from the wrong script.

The college repuke numbers must be stong enough to fill a few thousand troop openings.

I think this fighters allegedly crossing the border shit is a load of bull.

the Senate have to approve it? I do not believe the American public will stand for another Bush war. I sure do hope I'm right. At least Judy won't be out front (page.)

Michael Ledeen said that "'Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business."

Ever since the ascendance of Ronald Reagan, it's cool to be an asshole. We deserve to rule the world and only inferiors disagree with that. Losers need to get out of the way.

This is the secret of the modern American society: you may never admit weakness, and you must revel in your superiority. You won't lose your house as rates go up. Our economy isn't going to fail because of outsourcing. Rich people ARE being unfairly taxed. Poor people are lazy and don't deserve to live.

Bullying is the new soul of this country, and that's very sad. We used to be the land of hope, now we're the land of laughing superiority.

We tried to take Syria in the spring of '03, but we couldn't. Since we haven't got anywhere near the means to "do" Iran, we hope for the Israeli military to help us get rid of Syria. Since the PNAC is bent on world domination and has probably more loyalty to Israel than the United States, Syria's in a heap of trouble

Yes, PNAC is more loyal to Israel than the US? :eyes: Yes, Israel would just LOVE an unstable Syrian regime! :sarcasm: Yes, Israel is waiting for their master (that they actually control) to give them "go ahead!" :puke:

PNAC is loyal to OIL! PNAC is loyal to CORPORATIONS! PNAC is loyal to THEIR WALLETS!

Israel has been told to "let the US handle Syria." Israel doesn't need an unstable Syria! Israel is also KEENLY aware that an assault on Syria will draw in the other Arab nations (they all hated Saddam, so they didn't care about that little illegal venture).

You know, it gets REALLY OLD, how Israel is ALWAYS a willing accomplice and the reason we (the US) is always doing bad shit. Give it a rest!

"Ever since the ascendance of Ronald Reagan, it's cool to be an asshole. We deserve to rule the world and only inferiors disagree with that. Losers need to get out of the way.

This is the secret of the modern American society: you may never admit weakness, and you must revel in your superiority. You won't lose your house as rates go up. Our economy isn't going to fail because of outsourcing. Rich people ARE being unfairly taxed. Poor people are lazy and don't deserve to live.

Bullying is the new soul of this country, and that's very sad. We used to be the land of hope, now we're the land of laughing superiority."

and are a pariah state that will eventually be isolated. Other regions of the world are already forming alliances to oppose the U.S.

> The United States on Wednesday refused to rule out possible military
> action against Syria but said it had not exhausted diplomatic moves
> to get Damascus to change its ways over Iraq and Lebanon.

Blatantly stating that the United States are prepared to commit a
terrorist act (unsanctioned international military attacks).

Where's the outcry?

or is there another one?

to connect the dots before Al Quada hit us on 9/11; She repeats Bush' talking point that the Iraq invasion advances our war against Al Quada but does not give any reason for thesis. She's a f***ing moron. What is she doing in this job.

(with apologies to Joe Haldeman and his fine novel)

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue56/classic.html

let's see how many people are willing to go!!!! Let's see the prisons fill up with those who refuse to participate in this administration's greedy, thieving ways!!!! Let's see how many Americans will leave this country, so that their children do not become victim's of greed!!!!

as an administrator of the whole thing.