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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:47 AM
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Senate Republicans agree on health cuts (for the old and poor), aide says
http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2005-10-20T164309Z_01_WAT004247_RTRIDST_0_CONGRESS-HEALTH-URGENT.XML

WASHINGTON, Oct 20 (Reuters) - U.S. Senate Finance Republicans, aiming to find $10 billion in savings, have reached a deal on health care budget cuts and will release details on Thursday afternoon, an aide to committee chairman Sen. Charles Grassley said.

Senate conservatives had hoped to trim Medicaid, the joint federal-state health program for the poor, by about $10 billion over five years but moderates on the panel pushed for some of the savings to come from Medicare, the federal health program for the elderly. The House is divided over its budget plans, with conservatives pushing for deeper spending cuts.

...short blurb...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:51 AM
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1. Cut their Viagra coverage and maybe their pimple creams, but
anything else is just abominably irresponsible.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:52 AM
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2. I wish the Republicans could be honest about it.
Why don't they for once say they'd like to line all the poor and elderly alongside a pit, take them out and bulldoze them over? That's what it amounts to.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:57 AM
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3. Why not health cuts on themselves?
How much would we save then, I wonder? We should e-mail all of them and ask these questions.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:59 AM
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4. They must be tired of being in power
Short of actually overturning Roe v Wade, this is about as dumb as it gets.
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senaca Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:26 PM
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6. This will come back to bite them big time.
There is the sandwich generation who are barely making it supporting their children with deep concerns about their parents. This is particularly if their parents need long term care for things like alzheimers. Medicaid plays a big role in long term care. There's the upcoming winter heating crisis which will force people, particularly those on fixed incomes, to turn to food stamps to survive. This particular mean spirited Republican majority, once again proves ineptitude in governing our nation on issues that matter, but short sidedness.



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 05:11 PM
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20. only if it gets repeated day after day!!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:22 PM
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5. Medicare also applys to some disabled persons
and many disabled persons are not OLD!

:grr:

:kick:

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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:39 PM
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7. As Krugman was saying years ago, this is inevitable
Once you get past Social Security, the defense budget, and interest on the national debt, what's left to cut? Most of the other federal programs don't add up to jack shit compared to the defecit created by tax cuts. There's only one place you can make any significant budget headway, and that's health programs for the elderly and disabled.

I wonder how this will go over with the American electorate...
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:06 PM
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13. yep..."starve the beast"
With republicans in charge, it was just a matter of time before this happened.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 04:08 PM
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19. Silly Americans
Apparently, we trust the very people who promise every two years to utterly destroy our government to preserve it. What a maroon!
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:43 PM
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8. Wow.....
I mean...just....wow.... :wow:

Looking at them now with all their scandals and bad policies, I'd say they were shooting themselves in the foot, but they keep aiming the gun higher. This is nothing short of political suicide. (As Lisa Simpson said, "I warned you guys that Senior Citizens always vote in record numbers.")

Do they really think that any senior citizens (and the disabled, as CountAllVotes pointed out) that voted republican before are going to have their benefits slashed while Bush's tax cuts get made permanent and just say, "oh, no big deal"? Or that the AARP isn't going to go feather-pluckin' INSANE over this? Or that people won't remember that, RIGHT after a time when the plight of the poor was ignored in New Orleans, that it was the republicans who put the additional screws to them?

They're not even trying to keep up the illusion that they make tough spending cuts because they're fiscally conservative...they're just wantonly cutting every social support system they can while they still have a shred of power in Washington.

The end cometh nigh....
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:46 PM
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9. I will start packing up my office
Medicaid pays my paycheck


CB
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:00 PM
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12. my condolences
:(
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:47 PM
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10. how many old people voted republican... oh yeah, that was what most
old people voted.
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:54 PM
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11. This will fly like a lead balloon.
They might pass it, but i am quite sure many will pay with their jobs. I am on disability, and i hope they do it. The outrage will be overwhelming. So yeah go ahead and shoot yourself in the foot.

I got a very good 10+ billion cut. Discontinue the war on drugs, the war in Iraq, and save hundereds of billions. But we can't do that, gotta kill brown folks and keep the prison full as they are American institutions.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:21 PM
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14. why can Defense NEVER be cut???
Last I checked, our enemies hid in caves ....
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:51 PM
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16. oh because those contractors are their friends
It doesn't matter how many 150M, 1,2B contracts have been awarded
in homeland security alone that have produced NOTHING and I mean
NOTHING useful...
or the obvious raping of the US taxpayer with a war that costs
8B a day!

It's just outright theft what is going on.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:49 PM
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15. disgusting
Of course they would never cut their healthcare 100% for life plan or
their pensions now would they?

No problem doing it to the middle class and the poor though?

Can't even contemplate stopping the no bid contracts to their friends
either, or their pork invested bills they have passed.

Today the house was really busy protecting corporations from
being sued by those nasty consumers over their guns and their concentrated fat and sugar laden food.

It's so brazen I cannot believe the entire nation isn't in revolt.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:07 PM
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17. "Compassionate Conservative Christians" & the least among us
Their immoral and irresponsible budget will not make my God happy and it infuriates me.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:59 PM
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18. Conserving their Compassion for Corporate Welfare Constituents
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 05:21 PM
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21. Do these RW gouhls have any shame?
No. The are all Silverspoon Sociopaths as is the POS Prez.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 05:28 PM
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22. If they could find the 9 billion they lost in Iraq, things would be
alright.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 05:34 PM
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23. How do these guys live
with themselves?I watch and listen to them as their true priorities become more and more obvious and can't understand how they stay credible even to their so called"base".
Republicans blew the deficit levels sky high for this very purpose,to cut out any semblance of a safety net for everybody but their own wealthy corporate friends.Anything set aside to help normal people live comfortable lives is "commie nanny statism".We live in a world turned upside down.Truly.
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