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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:42 AM
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Report alleges rebels trained in Venezuela (US dirty tricks?)
An *exclusive* from the Oligarchs Daily--a clue that this is just more bullshit planted in the Ecuadoran paper, which the Ecuadoran government has downplayed. The OD is claiming that Ecuadoran intelligence is *relatively reliable* because they had Israeli and U.S. training (read:death squads ala School of the Americas) during the 1980s to break up *leftists movements*.

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QUITO - An Ecuadorean military intelligence report alleges that leftists from Ecuador and seven other Latin American nations received guerrilla training in Venezuela this year from backers of President Hugo Chávez.

The report does not link Chávez personally to the training in explosives, weapons and urban guerrilla tactics. But it notes that part of the training took place in two Caracas military bases, one used by the army reserves and another that houses the Defense Ministry.

And in a concluding section, it says that backers of the Venezuelan president, ``with covert support from the government of Hugo Chávez . . . have strengthened incipient subversive movements.''

The Herald repeatedly sought the reaction of Venezuelan Vice President José Vicente Rangel, who most often speaks for the government, and Gen. Julio Quintero Viloria, commander of the reserves. Neither responded.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/12972069.htm


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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:46 AM
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1. Complete and total
PROPAGANDA!!!

What a crock of bushit!

:mad: :puke: :eyes: :grr: :nuke: :cry: :banghead:
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:50 AM
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2. The bush administration never gives up with the propaganda....
against Chavez. Many of the propaganda stories come out of old Jebbie territory in Miami. It is all so transparent.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:12 AM
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5. What a nightmare it's becoming for Chavez,
Chavez is honorable and decent, no wonder these asshats hate him so much.

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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:42 AM
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6. I agree that Chavez is honorable and decent and trying to make...
a better life for the many poor people in Venezuela. He is trying to spread the wealth equitably.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:51 AM
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3. This is what one could expect to hear coming out of Miami
and from a newspaper that fellates the Miami cubans.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:05 PM
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11. There's an anti-Chavez ex-patriot group of Venezuelans in South Florida
who have bonded with the reactionary right-wing Cubans. It's also the area where some of the coup-plotters have fled after their US-backed plot fell through.

It hasn't been that long since the Venezuelan government discovered these Colombian paramilitaries holed up in a ranch, owned by a Cuban "exile," near Caracas, next door to property owned by billionaire Bush family friend, Gustavo Cisneros:
Venezuela Captures Paramilitary Group Seeking to Overthrow Chavez

Venezuelanalysis.com
May 09, 2004

Sunday, May 9, 2004 (Venezuelanalysis.com).- Venezuelan authorities captured this morning a group of 55 Colombian paramilitaries who were receiving training at a farm nearby Caracas in preparation for attacks on Venezuelan military bases and for a coup d'etat against the government of Hugo Chavez.
The raid was conducted by the civilian intelligence service DISIP, military intelligence officers and the Scientific, Penal and Criminal Investigation Department (CICPC). The property where the paramilitaries were captured is located in the municipality of Baruta, in southeastern Caracas. Footage by state TV showed what appeared to be living quarters, with beds and kitchens. Barracs at the property of opposition activist Robert Alonso where Colmbian paramilitaries lived for 46 days Credit: Venezolana de Televisión

The paramilitaries 55 initially captured are part of a larger group of up to 130 men, some of which managed to escape. By Sunday afternoon, authorities managed to capture several others for a total of 71 individuals detained, including two minors. Authorities continue to pursue the irregulars through the mountains around southeastern part of the valley of Caracas.

According to Venezuela's Defense Minister Jorge Garcia Carneiro, the group's final goal was to overthrow the government. Garcia said that there are Venezuelan retired military officers involved in the plot. The Venezuelan military officers allegedly involved are part of the group of rebels who regularly met at Francia Square in the affluent eastern Caracas neighborhood of Altamira, to give anti-government speeches and make calls to overthrow it.

Linked to larger group

One of the detainees confessed to a TV reporter that the owner of the farm offered them 500 thousand Colombian pesos to come and work there. When they arrived 46 days ago, they were greeted by men in camouflage uniforms, who told them they would receive training for attacks to National Guard bases. One of the paramilitaries gave details of the opposition's plans, but asked that his face not be seen fearing retaliations against his family in Colombia.
(snip/...)
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/americas/venezuela/1845.html

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How anyone could believe Venezuela is busy arming other countries while it is being invaded itself is beyond me. Propaganda meisters count on some people remaining almost brain dead to provide a fertile field for their little twisted stories.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:52 PM
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13. Thank you for the article
"The Minister of Communication and Information Jesee Chacon condenmed the media's attitude towards an event "without precedent in recent history in Venezuela".

Lawmaker Saab also criticized the local commercial media for not covering the event and just giving TV space to opposition leaders who dismissed the raid as "a show created by the government".

Bloodshed predicted by opposition

Venezuelan former President Carlos Andres Perez, who opposes the Chavez government, announced last week through Colombian radio network Caracol that the political opposition to Chavez "is willing to oust him, not through peaceful means but by force". Perez, who lives in exile in the United States, said that he did not believe that Chavez's ouster would spill into a civil war, but that "there will be blood spilled" to oust him. The Colombian radio network Caracol is also owned by media magnate and Chavez opponent Gustavo Cisneros."

more from the same article above.

http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/americas/venezuela/1845.html
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:00 AM
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4. Operation Latin American Freedom (Hundreds of US troops in Paraguay)
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Preparations for renewed US militarization and intervention in Latin America are underway. To protect its own hegemony and economic interests, the US government is using the threat of terrorism as an excuse for military operations aimed at destabilizing leftist movements and governments and securing natural resources such as oil and gas.

By focusing on social programs in education, land reform, and healthcare, many of the region’s new leaders have put the needs of the people ahead of the demands of multinational companies. This leftist resurgence makes corporate investors and other harbingers of the free market nervous. Recently, the Bush administration has gone to extreme measures to ensure that this leftist trend is put in check.

Hundreds of US troops arrived in Paraguay on July 1st for secretive operations and are believed to be populating a military base 200 kilometers from the Bolivian border. Political analysts in the region believe this questionable activity is part of a strategy to quell popular uprisings in Bolivia – where upcoming presidential elections are expected to favor a leftist candidate – and take over the country’s vast gas reserves.

Bush administration officials blame of left-leaning “instability” in Latin America, particularly in Bolivia, on funding and support from President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and Fidel Castro in Cuba. Lately, Bolivia has gone through politically tumultuous times; protests against plans to privatize the country’s gas reserves have ousted two presidents in two years.

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1582
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:40 AM
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8. Confirms my theory that, whatever the Bushites or their shills are...
...accusing anybody of, THEY are doing (and the accused most often are NOT doing). Very reliable rule of thumb. Rice has now got her panties in a twist about a top Syrian official who was recently assassinated and says we must hold Syria "accountable." Translation: We did it--or we are planning something similar somewhere. Bush thinks the insurgents in Iraq are "terrorists." Who is terrorizing Iraq with continued bombings of villages, torture, indefinite detenction, US military contractor death squads, cordoning off targeted neighborhoods, knocking down doors in the middle of the night, killing innocent Iraqis at "checkpoints," and targeting journalists? Bush thinks Saddam is an "evil dictator" who is slaughtering his own people and has ties to AlQ. Well, guess who is slaughtering Iraqis now, and has long term ties to Al Q, and has turned out to be an evil dictator? WMDs? We got 'em; they don't. Axis of Evil? How about Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld? Chavez is "increasingly authoritarian"? Ahem. Guess who thinks being president means that nobody can question what you say? Stirring up shit in Latin America? Who toppled the elected president of Haiti, and funded efforts to topple Chavez?

Just reverse what they say--and you will almost always be close to the truth.
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PeaceProgProsp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:30 PM
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12. Speaking of assassination...
remember those Predator Drones the US flies around, blowing up Syrian (or was it Yemeni) vehicles with suspected terrorists in them?

What's the difference between that and what Rice is complaining about?
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:38 AM
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7. He's scaring them. Good.
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 08:39 AM by Darranar
May the threat he poses to the unjust global order be expanded.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:51 AM
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9. Gee, Hugo has his own SOA now.
BTW, "Exclusive" just means nobody else would print this bullshit.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:05 PM
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17. Chavez and *Mr. Danger* to meet at the Summit of Americas
in a couple of weeks. Should be interesting.



US President George W Bush walks past Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez following Bush's speech at the start of the Summit of the Americas (photo: AP)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:07 PM
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10. You can always count on planted articles in the Miami Herald.
This one is possibly the slimiest, most deceitful one I've ever seen.

All from the newspaper which was beaten into begging the right-wing Miami mafia for mercy long ago:
TRYING TO SET
THE AGENDA IN MIAMI

Bashing the Herald is only part of Jose Mas Canosa's strategy

by Anne-Marie O'Connor
O'Connor, who is based in Miami, is Latin America and Caribbean correspondent for Cox Newspapers.
The Miami Herald usually takes and assumes the same positions as the Cuban government. But we must confess that they were once more discreet about it. Lately the distance between The Miami Herald and Fidel Castro has narrowed considerably. . . . Why must we consent to The Miami Herald and ElNuevo Herald continuing a destructive campaign full of hatred for the Cuban xile, when ultimately they live and eat, economically speaking, on our support?

Jorge Mas Canosa, chairman of the Miami-based Cuban American National Foundation, in a local radio broadcast, aired on January 21 and printed in full in El Diario las Americas.

The revelation that The Miami Herald and its Spanish-language counterpart, El Nuevo Herald, were in bed with Cuban leader Fidel Castro must have confounded the editors of the Cuban Communist party organ, Granma, since the Havana daily has repeatedly portrayed them as right-wing tools of the eternal CIA campaign against the thirty-three-year-old revolution.

Anywhere else, Mas Canosa's remarks might have been ignored. In the darker recesses of Miami's exile community, however, his words were clearly a call to arms. Within days Herald publisher David Lawrence, Jr., and two top editors received death threats. Anonymous callers phoned in bomb threats and Herald vending machines were jammed with gum and smeared with feces. Mas Canosa's Cuban American National Foundation quickly denied responsibility and condemned the hijinks, but Mas's words were highly inflammatory in a city where public red-baiting has served as a prelude to bombings and, in past years, murder.
(snip/...)
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:UQiB716-0NkJ:archives.cjr.org/year/92/3/miami.asp+Miami+Herald+%2B+feces&hl=en

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This article is 13 years old. Since then, it was given a Cuban publisher to make sure things didn't get out of control again, and always served the Cuban right-wing faithfully. The Herald also spun off a Spanish-only version of the Herald, which is so convoluted a Cuban-American organization publishes commentary on the differences between the Spanish and the English versions weekly, which means if you're Spanish speaking and never bother to learn English in Miami you have NO CHANCE of getting even a slightly tampered-with version of any story.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:24 PM
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14. And what group of terrorists to we train at our bases around the world?
And here at home?
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:30 PM
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15. Alleged guerrillas trainees have no weapons, no identity and don't do anyt
<clips>

Alleged guerrillas trainees have no weapons, no identity and don't do anything

The Miami Herald's Steven Dudley reports from Quito (Ecuador) that the leftist Ecuadorean group that allegedly sent members for guerrilla training in Venezuela has been around for nearly two years ... but it's not clear how large or dangerous it is, according to the country's military intelligence.

By all appearances, the previously unknown Alfarist Liberation Army seems to be drawing from a radical university population often at the forefront of political demonstrations over issues such as free trade and US anti-drug policies in Ecuador and neighboring Colombia.

''They've spent the last year and a half making contacts with other organizations, peasant groups, community organizations,'' said a military intelligence officer who spoke to The Herald on condition that his name be withheld because of the sensitivity of his work.

IN SEVERAL REGIONS

He also said that the group operates along the northern border with Colombia -- where it is suspected in several robberies and extortion -- as well as around the capital city of Quito, the coastal city of Guayaquil and the Pacific port of Manta, where an airport is used as a base for US counter-drug surveillance planes in the region.

The officer added that the group, known by its Spanish acronym ELA, has not had much success in establishing contact with Colombia's largest leftist guerrilla group, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, known as FARC.

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=46486

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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:33 PM
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16. United States intelligence (?) report claims guerrilla training in Caracas
<clips>

...The Miami Herald Report bears all the hallmarks of a continuing Bush administration-instigated disinformation campaign being waged against the Venezuelan government's reform program to regain control over its national resources and to confirm the nation's sovereign independence against repetitive efforts from Washington D.C. to disrupt Venezuela's democratic governance aimed at securing American hegemony in the region.

* The Herald repeatedly sought the reaction of Venezuelan Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel, who most often speaks for the government, and General Julio Quintero Viloria, commander of the reserves. Neither responded.

However, after the Ecuadorean newspaper El Comercio broke the story earlier this month, the Venezuelan Embassy here issued a statement denying the story and saying Chavez ''is against all groups or organizations that support the use of violence.'' The President himself later dismissed the newspaper's story as part of a US government propaganda campaign against him.

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=46487

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