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StephNW4Clark Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:11 PM
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Clark at New American Strategies
The left-wing think tank on American foreign policy

http://www.newamericanstrategies.org/

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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:14 PM
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1. Aggghhhh
This is just some partisan thing for the Democrats.

Frankly, I am not interested in something that Liberman and pretty much all the other pro-war camp signed up for.

I am more interested in The Coalition for a Realistic Foreign Policy.

http://www.realisticforeignpolicy.org/

It's non-partisan.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:25 PM
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2. Yeah, I am getting the feeling American Progress
Is the nice side of the same PNAC coin -- palatable ongoing war. Yep, we dems will fight the right wars!

Thanks for the link to the other. I got the two confused...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:34 PM
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6. The Lieberman listed there is NOT Joe. More of what Clark said:
Clark blames President Bush for Sept. 11 intelligence failures

NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer Tuesday, October 28, 2003

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrat Wesley Clark on Tuesday blamed President
Bush for the intelligence failures that contributed to the Sept. 11
terrorist attacks.

"There is no way this administration can walk away from its
responsibility for 9-11," Clark told a conference, titled "New
American Strategies for Security and Peace," "You can't blame
something like this on lower level intelligence officers, however
badly they communicated memos with each other. ... The buck rests
with the commander in chief, right on George W. Bush's desk."

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:34 PM
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3. No thanks
This is enough for me...

"The third principle is to ensure our armed forces retain the edge over any potential adversary."

- General Wesley K. Clark, USA (Ret.)
(Spoken like a true PNACer)

I cannot afford to get sicker. I have no health insurance.
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Shirley_U_Geste Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 04:09 PM
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5. What would you prefer??
to ensure our armed forces DON'T retain the edge over any potential adversary??
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:40 PM
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4. For those who care, part of what Clark said:
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 03:41 PM by robbedvoter
We have to build it on the principles of
the American people.

1)That we're a nation that's inclusive. We need to be guided by
inclusiveness. I know the enormous draw American ideals have. We
have systemically broken down barriers that exclude people and
nations. This barrier between free and autocratic nations won't
stand the test the time. They'll take away our relationships and our
security in the world

2)We should be working to strengthen United Nations and NATO. We
should have insisted on the legal definition of terrorism, and
indict Osama Bin Laden. We helped shape its values. We have to
strengthen it and use it. After 9/11, NATO invoked Article 5 because
one nation was attacked, all were attacked. But the Bush
administration ignored that unprecedented opportunity. They learned
the wrong lesson from that Kosovo experience. Blair asked "Are we
going to win?" I kept assuring "Good, because every government in
the Western world depends on it." If we want used that consensus
engine, we could have made a success through the moral, financial
and military commitment of those 19 nations. It's too little and too
late.

3) Ensure armed forces retain the edge. Need to modernize, including
the need to pre-empt any attack. It's a daunting set of tasks and
the administration's desire to retain control. And any military man
will tell you that. Our military should be used to back
international diplomacy and action, not force them.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:56 PM
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7. Kick
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:20 PM
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