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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:23 PM
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Bush Disavows Mission Accomplished Banner
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 06:28 PM by NNN0LHI
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031028/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_mission_accomplished_1

WASHINGTON - Six months after he spoke on an aircraft carrier deck under a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished," President Bush disavowed any connection with the war message.

The phrase has been mocked many times since Bush's carrier speech as criticism has mounted over the failed search for weapons of mass destruction and the continuing violence in Iraq.

When it was brought up again Tuesday at a news conference, Bush said, "The `Mission Accomplished' sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished." snip

Bush's disavowal Tuesday brought new criticism from retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark, who is seeking the Democratic nomination to run against the president. Clark said Bush "backtracked on his May 1 political photo op on the USS Abraham Lincoln by blaming the troops on the aircraft carrier for the declaration of 'mission accomplished' in Iraq."

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:25 PM
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1. Be sure to rate the article
I rated it a five cause of the last line in the article .

:bounce:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:26 PM
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2. What a disgrace.
Does he think anyone in their right mind would believe this newest lie? He makes me physically ill.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:39 PM
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14. Yes by going from past experience most Americans believe his every
word and also that he is moral. :shrug: Go Figure.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:28 PM
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3. The poor pitiful
moron doesn't know when to stop digging. Lie upon lie.:dunce:
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VaLabor Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:28 PM
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4. oh and now
the White House is trying to cover its (web) tracks...

Check this out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=110&topic_id=1888
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:34 PM
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8. Page has been moved. It's now here *UPDATE!
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 06:36 PM by lefty_mcduff
and as of 6:33 (EST) the mission accomplished quote is still there.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/06/20030605-1.html

Time for screen captures folks!


* Update - Woah. Just realized - This time Bush is talking to the troops in Quatar - NOT ON THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER. He has said it (Mission Accomplished) MORE THAN ONCE!!!!!! No banner here Chimpy!
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:46 PM
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19. This shit is important...READ ON
Day by day, the United States and our coalition partners are making the streets safer for the Iraqi citizens. We also understand that a more just political system will develop when people have food in their stomachs, and their lights work, and they can turn on a faucet and they can find some clean water -- things that Saddam did not do for them.

See, he spent more time building luxurious palaces than he did in building an infrastructure to take care of the Iraqi citizens. And the United States and our friends and allies will first take care of the Iraqi citizens. (Applause.) And they'll have some money to help themselves. After all, oil is now flowing. But this time the revenues are not going to be used and skimmed off by greedy gangsters. It's going to be used in a special account on behalf of the people who own the oil -- the citizens of Iraq. (Applause.)

One thing else we've done is we made sure that Iraq is not going to serve as an arsenal for terrorist -- for terrorist groups. We recently found two mobile biological weapons facilities which were capable of producing biological agents

We have to be quite vigil on the minutiea (sp?) of his statements. So when he says "I never said..." we have to point to exact time place and date.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:43 PM
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28. Yes
and the long suffering citizens of America demand the immediate nationalization of all American oil sales back to the Citizens for health care, education, and welfare for the unemployed.
Nationalize OIL now!

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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:49 PM
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48. Don't Forget the Video!
You can watch Bush say "that mission has been accomplished" right from that web page. Pretty neat, eh?
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getbush Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:29 PM
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5. No no...
He meant "his" military mission. The one that was accomplished when he went AWOL.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:29 PM
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6. George on his mother: "It's not my fault she didn't abort me"
man, when something doesn't suit him, he just lies about it.

Didn't he complain about "those who would rewrite history?"
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:30 PM
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7. rate it a 5! From the end....
<snip>Clark said Bush "backtracked on his May 1 political photo op on the USS Abraham Lincoln by blaming the troops on the aircraft carrier for the declaration of 'mission accomplished' in Iraq."


...yeah blame the troops you sorry piece of shit! :grr:





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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:34 PM
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9. Take a look at the sign
It's professionally done, with a flag motif in the background. This wasn't produced on an aircraft carrier. Looks like it was done by the people who come up with those backdrops he uses for speeches.

Besides, are they trying to tell us that their tightly staged show – so meticulous that it was timed to provide the best light for *, that the carrier circled so the coastline wasn't visible – that somehow that huge sign wasn't noticed?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:38 PM
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13. I'm the last one to defend *
But an aircraft carrier would have a full printing facility. A friend of mine worked in one.

But that doesn't mean a Rove flunky didn't arrange it.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:44 PM
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16. um, whaaa...?
since when do aircraft carriers make vinyl banners with color vinyl pronting on them?

I used to do stuff like that for a living, I don't really see why such expensive equipment would be on an aircraft carrier??

:shrug:


this banner was NOT made by a mere "printing facility". This is professional sign-making equipment doing this job. That banner is HUGE and seamless
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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:45 PM
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17. Doubt that the print shop had the facilities
... to do a 50 foot multi-color banner.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:06 PM
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25. You can do that with a $20,000 printer...
It only takes up a 2' x 6' area on the floor. I have one ten feet from me.

But again, I am 100% sure that Rove directed this. The ship would not do Anything like this knowing the President was coming without White House direction.

Bush lies again.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #25
53. So how do you
get a 10' wide banner out of a 6' wide machine?

Sorry, I own a screen printing company. The machine to make that banner costs at least $100,000.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:36 PM
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10. What if the banner said,
junior suck's


Who would get hung out to dry?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:38 PM
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11. excuse the shit out of me
but, huh????

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/01/sprj.irq.bush.speech/index.html

Bush: Iraq is one victory in war on terror

Friday, May 2, 2003 Posted: 10:07 AM EDT (1407 GMT)

ABOARD USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN (CNN) -- President Bush on Thursday praised the toppling of Saddam Hussein as "a job well done," but he warned that the battle in Iraq was but "one victory in a war on terror."

Bush, addressing the nation not from the White House but from the dramatic setting of the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, announced: "Major combat operations in Iraq have ended." (Transcript)

Standing on the giant flight deck, with a banner reading "Mission Accomplished" overhead on the bridge, the commander- in-chief saluted the men and women of the U.S. military.

"Because of you, our nation is more secure. Because of you, the tyrant has fallen, and Iraq is free," was his message. "America is grateful for a job well done."

...more...

seems like if he didn't want to use that sign, he would have had them take it down - he used it as a political spin moment, he needs to be spun...
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:38 PM
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12. Ha!Ha! I remember Liddy swooning: "Unlike Gore, W doesn't need a woman
to look manly..." This has been a good day!
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. w doesn't need a woman
just a frump and a couple pairs of socks placed in his underpants...
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:41 PM
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15. Fucking Coward! Can't take responsibility for anything! Spoiled
Rotten selfish brat! :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:45 PM
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18. Clark said what every Democrat needs to say, "Bush is blaming the troops!"
Tell the world the truth, Bush screwed up and now he's trying to blame the troops for his mistakes.

Bush is a disgrace!
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getbush Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:47 PM
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20. Mission will truly be accomplished.....
When his rotting ass is out of office and in jail for high crimes.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:26 PM
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43. MIssion will truly be accomplished....
when his sorry ass is frog-marched out of the WH along with the Dick, AshKKKroft, Rove, et al.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:53 PM
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22. I Can't See This As Anything But Bad For The Chimp
They are truly despearately scrambling. It's pathetic. No one except his hardcore brainwashed supporters will by this ridiculous non-denial denial. This is very bad for him, it makes him look like a whiny, duplicitous, non-straightshooting, politician (gasp)...Very very bad image-wise...What was Rove thinking giving him this line? Ahh, that's right, Rove's a moron too with only three moves; attack, backstab and bait and switch...Subtlety and taking responsibility are alien to his primitive brain...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 06:54 PM
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23. New GOPNAC slogan
Blame the troops!

Quagmire in Iraq? BLAME THE TROOPS!

PR fallout from a strutting martinet fake president chickenhawk piece of shit?
BLAME THE TROOPS!

Caught in yet another lie? BLAME THE TROOPS!



Remenber when they used to just blame Clinton's penis?

Then they moved to blame George Tenet.

Blame Rummie didn't last long.

Now it's BLAME THE TROOPS!


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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:03 PM
Response to Original message
24. Imagine if they'd gone through with
the huge Victory parade that was under consideration in NYC.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:10 PM
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26. THE WHITE HOUSE IS CORRECTING HIM
from another thread

Tue Oct-28-03 06:56 PM
Original message
Breaking: WH Confirms it produced the USS Lincoln's "MA" Banner

Just saw it on Buchannan & Press. Press held up a press release.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=188455
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:15 PM
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27. Things I wish the press had said when he floated this gibberish

"Pull the other one."

"Mr. President are you going to try and sell us a bridge next?"

"Mr. President, with all due respect, do you think we're retarded?"

Yeah the reporter who said anything like this would have been banned from the white house for life but lord what a way to go.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:45 PM
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29. Does anybody believe that?
I'm sure the Lincoln crew put it up. Just as I'm also sure that Bushco told them to do it.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:48 PM
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30. Of course the sailors put it up!
Look around the bridge of a large Navy ship. There are radio antennas. Radars. Meteo sensors. Just a ton of stuff you do not need to be around if you don't know what you're doing.

I have no doubt the sailors put the banner up. I have even less doubt that some advance person from the White House flew out on a chopper with the banner in a tube, handed said tube to the chief of the deck division, and told him to be sure it gets put up.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:49 PM
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31. By next spring
Bush will be campaigning from an undisclosed location!
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miguel_fr Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:50 PM
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32. Bush was repeating what to say


I watched President Bush's Press Conference today on the White House's website. Mr Bush had an earphone in his ear, and I had the impression that we was repeating the words that he was being told by someone else.

He was making constant pauses, as if listening, and restarted phrases immediately after. The rythm was very hashed, there were shorts bursts of words followed by long silences.

There were also many phrases interrupted in the middle just before another one was started. At some times, he did speak for several seconds on a row, but always interrupted himself brutally again, as if needing help to go forward.

I have no proof of all of this, of course. But even the jokes he cracks against the journalists are interrupted in the middle, which makes them weird to listen to - unless you realise that he's waiting for the punch line like everyone else :)

I don't know if you can make any use of this information, or if it can be verified at all, but maybe it can, so here it goes.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. Is the Press Conference available online anywhere?
I've only seen snippets, and I'm eager to watch it in its entirety.

Chimpy McFlightSuit used an earphone? Is this unprecedented? Can't wait to watch for myself!!
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miguel_fr Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:57 PM
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36. Webcast for Bush Press Conference

Its on the front page of whitehouse.gov

PS: Sorry, I meant earplug.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. LOL! Thanks, miguel_fr! (n/m)
:-)
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miguel_fr Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. Dissemination

VolvanoGen, if you know people who could disseminate this information around and perhaps make it known to the press, perhaps it would help check if it can be true - or it could force Mr Bush to appear in front of cameras without any earplug.

I would love to hear if there would be any difference in style and vocabulary.
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CaptAhab Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #32
42. Freaky
I very rarely listen to or watch Chimpy, because his very voice and appearance make me physically ill, but I decided to brave it this time. Wow, his behavior was weird. He was making strange pauses in the middle of every other sentence, starting to pronounce a word, pausing, as if uncertain of something, and then pronouncing it, and his intonation was altogether that of a person who is repeating something they are reading or listening to. How could the journalists present there remain with straight faces, and not make a single comment about that is beyond me.
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miguel_fr Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. Doesn't look at journalists

Mr Bush also names journalists without pointing at them, keeping his eyes down on his desk until the journalist had started speaking and he could easily located where he was.

This would also point to someone dictating the names of the journalists to him.

BTW, it could not have been written, because he was answering direct questions. It had to be spoken, presumably through the earplug.

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miguel_fr Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #32
49. No one cares ?

Hum, a bit disappointed by DU :(

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:52 PM
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33. Blames the troops
when he is in trouble for his lies. Shows how much he respects the troops--and he does not respect the troops because he himself when he deserted, did not respect the rules and regulations of the military, believing himself above it all because of his name and his daddy's influence--the troops are to be used--utilized--for his own aggrandisement. He is truly an ignorant, insane, narcissistic, coward of a man.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:55 PM
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35. How long before Bush's sanity is openly questioned?
Bush's imperial regime is really starting to show its age... he's looking a bit like a late-period Nero.
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canadacanabis Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. as long as he keeps gettin elected
today he said the world is a better place under his leadership....isnt he the president of the united states? he's not my president
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. Don't you mean "keeps stealing elections"?
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 08:12 PM by Melinda
The Son of a Bitch wasn't elected, he was installed by the despotic wing of the SCOTUS.

We need a better puke icon, this one doesn't begin to express the contempt I feel for that piece of shit spawn that was expelled from the foul womb of Babs "Queen Bitch" Bush.

:puke: :puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:07 PM
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38. He was happy to pretend it was his "mission accomplished"
at the time.

Nothing but conniving and duplicity out of this man.
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MsChiff Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #38
47. The Chimp doesn't appear on camera...
without his stage crew preparing everything last detail well in advance. Right down to having that speech timed so that the sun would be in the perfect spot to create a "special glow". Now they want us to believe they let someone else decide one of the main focal points???? AND point fingers at our fine servicemen and women??? One day soon, I am certain my jaw will break from the force of it repeatedly hitting the floor every time the liar opens his mouth and speaks.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:27 PM
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44. Wish a sailor would come forward to refute that.....
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:31 PM
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46. "BANNERGATE"
The "Bannergate" scandal....
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:11 PM
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50. This administration pays attention to backgrounds
Remember Ashcroft had the statue with the titties covered up.

If they didn't want the sign in the background, it wouldn't be there.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. Absolutely correct
They are VERY conscious of photo ops.....hence an over-abundance of American flags are always behind them when they speak.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:16 PM
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52. What a liar he is!
Unbelievable. I hope Wolf Blitzer is proud of himself for repeating this lie on his show earlier.
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