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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:12 AM
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Iranians Hold Anti-Israel Demonstrations

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-0092073.html

Iranians Hold Anti-Israel Demonstrations

TEHRAN, Iran - Tens of thousands of Iranians staged anti- Israel demonstrations across the country Friday, repeating calls by their ultraconservative president for the destruction of the Jewish state.

On Friday the Iranian Embassy in Moscow tried to soften the impact of Ahmadinejad‘s comment.

It added that Ahmadinejad "underlined the key position of Iran , based on the necessity to hold free elections on the occupied territories."

Ahmadinejad joined thousands of Iranians in one of several rallies in Tehran. State-run television showed Ahmadinejad surrounded by demonstrators, many holding banners with anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian slogans. "Death to Israel, death to America," read many of the placards.


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Long Time Lurker Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:15 AM
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1. Iran holds the Palestinians as pawns
It's very convenient that way. As long as the Palestinians are oppressed, the rest of the Muslim countries can continue their reign of terror on Israel. They then claim to have an excuse: the occupation.

Would they ever help their Muslim brothers get out of refugee camps?

No. Too easy to blame all the problems of the world on Israel.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:23 AM
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4. So people who complain
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 10:23 AM by julianer
about Israel's occupation are in fact supporters of the occupation?

This makes no sense. Iran has an anti-Israeli policy because of Israeli actions not because they want an excuse to attack an entirely blameless, innocent Israel, for the sake of those undeserving Palestinians (who just love being oppressed).

FFS.

Far from blaming the world's problems on Israel most people restrict themselves to the racist nature of the Israeli state itself and its murderous occcupation of Palestine. They also complain about the baleful effect zionism has had on the entire region and its poisonous effect in western politics.


Edit: spelling
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KyleBroslowski Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:42 AM
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7. Iran is not attac king the so-called "occupation"
but the very existance of the state of Israel. Top put it another way: for Iran, Tel Aviv is on "occupied" land.

It would be very scary if Iran ever gets a nuclear bomb. I think US should support Israel in launching air strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities. After all, they were successful in doing the same against Iraq.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:04 PM
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11. I dont think we should support Isreali crimes. EOM
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:54 PM
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15. This is the exact thinking the Bush cabal wants you to have.
More war= more dollars to the Repukes.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 03:34 AM
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25. You are supporting crimes
What are you doing on this site supporting illegal attacks against sovereign nations?

You may not like Iran's position but you have no right to attack them.

Israel is the criminal nation here, not Iran. Israel is in breach of international law, not Iran.

If you think Israel has a right to exist then why hasn't Palestine?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:34 AM
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6. I assume you are talking about the Iranian govt, not the people? nt


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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:16 AM
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2. sorry to see this happening to itself
anyhow, how do we even know? it's an example of how insane we are as a species.
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:16 AM
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3. sorry to see this happening to itself
anyhow, how do we even know? it's an example of how insane we are as a species.
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Long Time Lurker Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:28 AM
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5. Oh, the poor Palestinians
The blameless victims.

Chaos and ruin follows them, of their own volition.

No one said the occuapation was good. It isn't, and has been terrible for the region, I agree.

But for Iran to ride on the coattails of the Palestinians' misery, and call for annhilation of a sovereign country?

Big boo boo.
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jseankil Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:42 AM
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8. Iranian president repeats his call for the destruction of Israel
Ahmadinejad made a appearance at the Tehran rally and took a short walk with the crowd. He rejected the West's condemnation of his original comments that "Israel must be wiped off the map" as "invalid.

"My words were the Iranian nation's words. Westerners are
free to comment, but their reactions are invalid," Ahmadinejad told the official IRNA news agency.

State-run TV showed Ahmadinejad surrounded by protesters, many holding banners carrying anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian slogans including "Death to Israel, death to America."

Young girls wearing head-to-toe black chadors with green headbands covered in Islamic verses chanted anti-Israeli slogans below a banner showing caricatures of U.S. President George Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Israeli counterpart Ariel Sharon.

Just prior, however, Iran sought to smooth over the effects of Ahmadinejad's comments, saying through its Moscow embassy that he did not mean to "speak up in such sharp terms."

World leaders have condemned the remarks, which Ahmadinejad made Wednesday. He was repeating the words of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, founder of Iran's Islamic revolution.

"Mr. Ahmadinejad did not have any intention to speak up in such sharp terms and enter into a conflict," the Iranian Embassy in Moscow said in a statement.

"It's absolutely clear that, in his remarks, Mr. Ahmadinejad, president of the Islamic Republic of Iran, underlined the key position of Iran, based on the necessity to hold free elections on the occupied territories," the statement said.

But Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki was less diplomatic, telling state-run television late Thursday that Iran does not consider Israel legitimate.

"The comments expressed by the president is the declared and specific policy of the Islamic Republic of Iran," he said. "We don't recognize the Zionist regime and don't consider it legitimate." Mottaki also said the massive demonstrations would illustrate the anger of the Islamic world over the Jewish state's existence.

China, Turkey condemn comments

-more-

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/638943.html
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:28 PM
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24. I nominated this because this is the start of WWIII, IMHO of course.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 12:55 PM
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28. Hi jseankil!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:12 PM
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9. More than 1 million Iranians rally against Israel
TEHRAN, Iran // Iran's hard-line president marched in the streets of Tehran today alongside tens of thousands of people supporting his call for the destruction of Israel -- remarks that have been condemned around the world.

The rally was one of several state-organized, anti-Israel demonstrations across the country that drew more than a million Iranians.

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The state-organized demonstrations are part of the annual al-Quds Day -- or Jerusalem Day -- protests, which were first held in 1979 after Shiite Muslim clerics took power in Iran. Hundreds of thousands of Iranians have attended previous rallies.

At least 200,000 people rallied in Tehran, some chanting, "Israel is approaching its death," and wearing white shrouds symbolizing their readiness to die for their cause. Others carried banners reading, "Israel must be destroyed."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-iran1028,0,1354408.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:14 PM
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10. Speechless
:scared:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:09 PM
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12. He seem to want to see the USA "destroyed" too.
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:09 PM by bemildred
Wild stuff:

To a cheering audience that at several points erupted with chants of "death to Israel, death to America, death to England", Ahmadinejad continued, "Once, his eminency Imam Khomeini - leader of the 1979 Islamic revolution], stated that the illegal regime of the Pahlavis must go, and it happened. Then he said the Soviet empire would disappear, and it happened. He also said that this evil man Saddam must be punished, and we see that he is under trial in his country. His eminency also said that the occupation regime of Qods must be wiped off from the map of the world, and with the help of the Almighty, we shall soon experience a world without America and Zionism, notwithstanding those who doubt."

All this is completely unrelated to the Iraq fandango, of course.
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Long Time Lurker Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:23 PM
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13. This all predates Iraq
Iraq has heated up the anti-American sentiments, but Iran has always wanted to destroy Israel. Iraq is just fuel to an already very hot fire.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:52 PM
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14. Yep, while the comments are disturbing, they are not suprising.
And certainly should not be taken as signalling any major change in the regional situation, certainly not justifying aggressive action from Israel or the US.

Hard liners in Iran are militantly anti-Israel and its western allies, and Iran now has a hard liner for a president. This is nothing we didnt know before these comments.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:55 PM
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16. Here comes WWIII
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 02:05 PM
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17. "Death to Israel, death to America". Sheesh, losers, get a new slogan!
And maybe one that says "Death to Carter," just for nostalgia's sake. When your civilization starts reliving its glory days, you know things are about to decline.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 02:08 PM
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18. In fairness "War on Terrorism" is a Reagan throwback.
I guess retro is 'in'
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 02:18 PM
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19. Chimp did call them the Evil Empire and threatened to destroy them too.
But whose counting, right?
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:33 PM
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20. Should we return all of our troops
to the U.S. and turn into some sort of "Fortress America"? Sooner or later, we will have to deal with Iran. Those that propose America become an isolationist country, would end civilization as we know it. We could hold out for a while, but not forever. I hate war (been there, done that) but what is the alternative? Let some loonies go on some sort of global rampage? Wish I had answers to my own ?'s
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:40 PM
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21. So you expect the Persian Legions will be landing in Washington soon? nt
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:18 PM
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22. Iran isn't going to go on a "global rampage"
The Sunnis to the west wouldn't allow it. The Pakistanis to the East wouldn't allow it. And the Russians to the north wouldn't allow it. They have no power.

The only reason their President makes these statements is to unite the people of Iran against a common enemy and drum up support for an unpopular regime. China does the same thing with Japan and Taiwan and Bush does the same thing with OBL and terrorism.

Move along, folks...Nothing to see here
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:22 PM
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23. Duh. So correct. This reminds me of Shrub as much as anybody.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 03:39 AM
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26. 'Sooner or later we'll have to deal with Iran'
What f*cking arrogance. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Try promoting international law rather than crimes.

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termo Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 04:05 PM
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29. Iran has no PNAC...
US has, I feel a draft !
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