TIME: A White House Without Rove? (the news here: not "if," but "when")

A White House Without Rove?
He's not gone yet, but his Texas-size ambitions are giving way to smaller goals
By MIKE ALLEN
Posted Sunday, Nov. 06, 2005


He's weary. his wife and only child, who is approaching college, miss him. He has monstrous legal bills. His unique bond with the President is under stress. His most important work is done.

Karl Rove's colleagues don't know exactly when it will happen, but they are already laying out the reasons they will give for the departure of the man President George W. Bush dubbed the architect. A Roveless Bush seemed unthinkable just a few months ago. But that has changed as the President's senior adviser and deputy chief of staff remains embroiled in the CIA leak scandal.

Despite Rove's flashes of ebullience in recent days and the insistence of friends that he is out of legal jeopardy, several of the most important lawyers who deal with special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said they saw more clues last week that Fitzgerald is continuing to look into the possibility of charging Rove with lying to investigators or the grand jury or both. If that happens, Rove almost certainly would resign immediately, as did I. Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, when Libby was indicted two weeks ago. Otherwise, Rove is likely to wait for a chance to minimize the perception that he is being hounded out or leaving under a cloud. And he's got one constituency rooting for him, the conservatives who rely on him to be their voice. If he leaves, he will not be alone. Several well-wired Administration officials predict that within a year, the President will have a new chief of staff and press secretary, probably a new Treasury Secretary and maybe a new Defense Secretary.

The expected departures are among a host of new signs suggesting that Bush's sixth year in office—the last one before midterm elections and a turn in attention toward the 2008 race to succeed him—will be very different from his first five. The sunny optimist who loved to think big is now facing polls in which for the first time a majority of Americans say they do not trust him. "It's like it's twilight in America," says one frustrated conservative....


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1126697,00.html?cnn=yes

Welcome to our world, buddy. It's about time you got here.

Twilite Zone is a great metaphor for the bu$hco era. "Time to Leave the Twilite Zone"....

And now they try sending in "the BIRDS" (flu).... Fear Mongers!

:kick:

It is always the darkest before the dawning of the sun. So while it is getting darker in his Amerikkka it is almost morning in our America!

Waking up after a long drunken slumber.

lameduck Bush can only be good news for progressives in America, not to mention the rest of the world.

Not to me. :)


and even Lee Atwater died.

the problem is, someone always comes along and takes their place.

and it's certainly not this "It's like it's twilight in America"

Oh, the pathos of a true believer! hehehehe

is usually worse than the person replaced.

Although it's hard to think of anyone worse than Rove.

(hopefully) atwater's legacy will end with rove. any chance he has an intern? :evilgrin: e-e-uww! sorry i brought that up.

ellen fl

These pig-vomit scumbags seem recreate themselves forever.

Boo fucking hoo hoo. We're all weary of you're evil ways, KKKarl.

in playing dirty.

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Bullshit, dawn is finally coming.

Let him hum that tune.

Whether Rove is at the White House or not, he'll still make his influence felt. He belongs in prison.

Bush can't do without Rove.

"Whether Rove is at the White House or not, he'll still make his influence felt."

True. Rove may leave the White House but he'll still be directing operations from behind the scene.

This description of Terra Man is so off base.

...it's true. He went on and on about Bush's natural inclination toward greatness and wondered how soon his "sunny nobility" would return.

I hadn't heard that from Tweety. Natural inclination toward greatness and "sunny nobility" ???

bejeebus out of every man, woman, and child in this country. That's the ticket, his reign has been infused with sunny optimism. WTF.

I read the article and had to wait until I stopped sobbing over Karl's plight, but now that I have, I just want to say FUCK him. You planted the seeds, scumbag...enjoy the harvest. Vile fucking PIG.

numbers are ABC This Week, the poll said that the democrats poll
17 points above the Republicans on who should control Congress.

:rofl:

That's what the basket is for! Silly person.

has actually proven damaging to the White House. Bush had publicly said he would not allow anyone who outed a CIA agent to remain in his administration. Then he hedged on it. Now he has a discredited Rove in the White House. The result is that over 50% of Americans think Bush is dishonest.

Having said that, I want them all to suffer immeasureably for the damage that has been done.
I also wonder how dimson feels he's done this week w/o his brain.

indicted, all his time, money and energy will go toward his court case...and he won't be accessable to shrub while covering his own sorry ass.

is draw a 5-mile wide line connecting 2 dots of 30-mile diameter. Now they see.

here on DU thought the party was over. The longer the boy king reigns, the more fecal solids hit the venitllation system.

"PULL!"

He will need to spend more time with his family. These people are so predictable it's sickening.

imagining somebody actually missing him. Wife and child included. It would be like missing poison ivy, or a bad headache.

Guess it's now the other fam'bly's turn.

Good grief, can you imagine having a freak of nature like that around the house?




Cher

"Hall Of Shame" museum in Washington D.C., with all the infamous leaders of this country. Complete with big hand painted picture and feat of accomplishments. They could have people like Kissinger, Rove, Nixon, Reagan and a whole host of others.

Spiro Agnew
Oliver North
G. Gordon Liddy
John Mitchell
Joe McCarthy

The list might be endless

this sort. (Non-partisan of course)Can't bar Clinton & Monica with cigar painting.

Larry Flint has the wherewithal to get this show on the road. I don't!

Several well-wired Administration officials predict that within a year, the President will have a new chief of staff and press secretary,:cry:

8^)

heard somewhere that Dick Morris might be tapped for the job. Heh.

"You want the job?"

"O HAYEL NO." :P

Well, the only child part doesn't fly. If the kid is going off to college, KKKarl already missed the entire childhood.

on the horn with bush or monitered into his ear piece.

We just won't have as many pictures of his butt ugly self.

And what's this about rove with a wife and kid near college? Ugh!

Cher

Spearheading the destruction of your own nation can be VERY hard work, eh, Turd Blossom? Just ask your boss! He's commented on it numerous times. But since you say your work is almost complete, I guess it may be time to move on. I hear there are lots of rooms available at The Hague....

for his acolyte, Karl Rove.

restating a simple case of retribution for outing the truth that could have prevented a preemptive invasion. Wilson demanded Rove's resignation last week. He'll go before being indicted is my guess.

:D

resigns does not mean he is not going to continue to be an intricate part of this pewtrid admin. We just won't see him publicly at the white house but lets not forget he has the same direct line to * as God does.

:wow:

But what I really find hard to believe is that anyone actually misses that fat unscrupulous dishonest shitstain.

I bet they are dreading the day he resigns to "spend more time with his family".

so the rumors say.

LOL!!!

I mean, she MUST be fair game, right?

Let's "out" Rove's wife for something. Better yet, let's make something up, a-la-swift-boaters style. The truth is what you make it, right? Ask Red Rover--he oughta know.

As Rove's wife, I think she's suffered enough.

The first time a majority are against him!

Delicccious!

I think that the first few elections let them get close enough to hack the vote, but exit polls differ from the results, not just two points outta the margin of error, but a number ofthem being 10 or 20 points outta the margin of error, a hack would be too obvious and things would be all too public. But the close races -they'll prolly get. I'm guessing our senate wins won't be close races at all.

I said this about the same topic, before:

CRANK UP THOSE TEENY LITTLE VIOLINS! You know, the world's smallest?


:nopity:

Welcome, JWS! Glad you're here to help us

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!
Then go DO something about it.

Libby should have been fired. Rove should be fired. Rummy should be fired. Condi should be fired. Cheney should be fired. OMG he would have to think for himself.:scared:

God, I wish it still was 1999. Everything since then has SUCKED!

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

"if Rove does head out, he may leave behind a wounded President who faces the prospect of having to abandon some of the pair's Texas-size dreams."

We are not through with him. Down to the deepest dungeon he must go.

Seriously, if he resigns, I would need a change of underdrawers in short order.

You Mr. Rove are the latter... you grew beyond your own means, so now you implode back into oblivion.

United Press International

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20051106-102707-6462r

WASHINGTON, Nov. 6 (UPI) -- Karl Rove's colleagues are preparing for the possibility that he may leave the White House because of the CIA leak case.

Several Bush administration officials predict that within a year, the president will have a new chief of staff and press secretary, probably a new treasury secretary and maybe a new defense secretary, the magazine said.

This would be fucking fantastic. What a great thing just before Chanukah 2005!!!

Please be true. Make one resign or get indicted each of the eight nights, with either Bush or Cheney gone on the 8th night!!! PLEASE!!!!

Hope it's true.
While we're at it, can we completely clean house and get a new President, and a new Vice President?

Andrew Card.

is the result of a deal cut with Fitzgerald?
Just asking. I'd rather see him swing than step down!

That's too long for a this scandal ridden administration to survive with the current criminals in office.

If he doesn't clean house soon the republicans can count on losing the senate next year, then the House.
Barring election antics, I think it's already too late for them to hang on to power.

If anyone was truly on the fence in '04, I'm sure they see now what Republican rule gets them.

And welcome to DU

I give it a month at most.

nt

that's the headline i want to read. 8^)

Allowing Rove to live politically is a terrible mistake.

He has been doing corrupt to illegal things since he's been 18.

Looks like they're getting ready for the BushCo implosion that will happen any day.

I thought he asked the new ed. secy. on a date??

I didn't think you could quit the mafia.

you go!!...NOT!!!

CNN
POLITICS
By Mike Allen
Monday, November 7, 2005

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/07/rove.wh.tm/

Despite Rove's flashes of ebullience in recent days and the insistence of friends that he is out of legal jeopardy, several of the most important lawyers who deal with special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said they saw more clues last week that Fitzgerald is continuing to look into the possibility of charging Rove with lying to investigators or the grand jury or both...