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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 08:38 AM
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First Fatality Reported in French Riots
PARIS — A man who was beaten by an attacker while trying to extinguish a trash-can fire during riots north of Paris has died of his injuries, becoming the first fatality since the urban unrest started 11 days ago, a police official said Monday. Youths overnight injured three dozen officers and burned more than 1,400 vehicles.

Apparent copycat attacks spread to other European cities for the first time, with five cars torched outside Brussels' main train station, police in the Belgian capital said.

Australia, Austria and Britain became the latest countries to advise their citizens to exercise care in France, joining the United States and Russia in warning tourists to stay away from violence-hit areas.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174745,00.html
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 08:46 AM
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1. For all we know, these copycat attacks and the attacks that have
Spread to other regions of France, might very well have been co-ordinated by the Neo-Nazi and National Front movements.

I think the original rioting in Parisien suburbs was 100% legit, and for the reasons that were stated, the young men being electrocuted, the immigrants beef over not being given a fair deal etc.

However I must say that I think the subsequent attacks throughout France and now these outside incidents in Berlin and Brussels are incredibly suspicious.

The Extreme Far-Right has gotten involved in such things before, and for the same reason as they would now...to give ALL immigrants a bad name and to attempt to whip up anti-immigrant hysteria throughout the European continent.

I bet that bastard Jean-Marie Le Pen is loving this.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 08:48 AM
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2. so you think this might be
a boston tea party type of thing? dress up like indians and toss the teas overboard...
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 08:58 AM
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3. I'm
Trying to think of every possible angle. Between day 8 and day 11, things changed radically and dramatically...they got guns, it spread like wildfire across the country and it seemed to be better planned and co-ordinated.

So who knows. My theory could be wrong of course.
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:00 AM
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4. it's not something that i thought of
but it is a possibility that i would not exclude...
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:03 AM
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5. Good
Because there's a record of the Far Right infiltrating all kinds of groups, specifically for purposes such as whats happening in France.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:14 AM
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7. More like a 21st century burning of the Reightstag. It is a possibility
for some of the "copycat" riots I believe.
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:07 AM
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6. you have an interesting idea, and it (the riots) certainly would be...
something those in the National Front movement could use to their advantage to support their anti-immigration stance.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:15 AM
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9. I've seen pictures of some of the one's getting involved
Their entire faces are covered, with balaclava's and such and they're wearing gloves. How do we know WHO they are? For all anybody knows under their disguises they could be white.

Also when this all started, on about day four, people within the immigrant communities were being interviewed about the situation. They all talked about the boys being electrocuted, that they weren't being treated even like human beings by the authorities, that they wanted fair play and to be given a chance to better their lot...not ONE of them was advocating SHOOTING people.

We now have ten police that have been shot, none died, but they were still shot, the INTENT to try and KILL was obviously there.

With things I always try and think of the "follow the money" aspect, as in WHO benefits from something that occurs. So if one does a "follow the money" on this, the only one's that stand to benefit are the National Front, in France in particular, considering the results from the last Presidential Election, where Jean-Marie Le Pen made a strong and frightening show.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:15 AM
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8. On the other hand
it could just be a regular old garden-variety riot. Not everything is a conspiracy by dark forces to manipulate reality. Somtimes people just get out of control and good folks die.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:44 AM
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10. CNN said the violence is starting to spread to...

...Belgium and Germany. Heard that on the news a few minutes ago.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:20 AM
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11. So now it's
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 11:20 AM by hogwyld
France, Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands. After all this rioting comes to pass, will Europe, as we know it, survive?
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:43 AM
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13. Europe ? Yes
The "rioters" ?
Probably not...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:41 AM
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12. People have different reasons for rioting
Lack of jobs, lack of hope to get anywhere beyond the ghetto, simple desire to do mayham and get away with it, upset with global politics, all sorts of things. Humanity is not very humane many times, both on a large and a small scale.
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