Three Massachusetts congressman now regret war vote

It's spreading, Dems proclaiming: "* duped us into war!"

DINOS ALL

WELL WE TOLD THEM IT WOULD BE A CLUSTER FUCK

well, considering OTHERWISE would be a start

to say 'too little too late' doesn't mean anything. It's not realistic to want to throw out everyone in Congress who voted for the war, as I've seen suggested time and again on DU.
I'm more of the 'admit it and move on' crowd as there are many mistakes that need fixing.

"ADMISSION"

THEN

ask for my forgiveness

they apparently aren't quite there yet

with the life of my son. I hope all these warmongers are history when the time comes that my son is old enough to be grabbed up and forced to serve in these idiots stupid war crimes. If I knew better than to go into Afganistan and Iraq. Those evil little pricks sure as hell should have known. Both countries are nothing but a continuing blood bath for our troops. And that "a little to late" "admit their mistakes and move on" bullcrap does not cut it with me. Punish those evil bastards in the correct way. Send them to jail along with Bu$h Inc.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

correct, then the vote would have been appropriate. They are parsing the fine line of the words of the misadministration.

followed international news, the reports of the IAEA, and who used common sense in looking at Saddam's capabilities after 10 years of brutal sanctions.

Why did they?

Not only were they 'duped', they wholeheartedly allowed themselves to be duped, to be panicked, not by Saddam but by the prospect of facing the voters who, they were being told, favored war.

even National Public Radio/TV was not making a case against going to war. I am older and wiser now. However, back then I did not just jump on the BushCo bandwagon b/c I KNEW they were asses from the start.

they were presented with other false, but highly classified material to manipulate their votes, but they can't talk about it just yet, if ever.

Also, there really were a whole lot of citizens ready to Rambo. I wish they would have stood up then too, but if they had, they would have been run out of office and even more repugs would be in there instead of them, and I'm guessing that if that were the case, we'd be in a worse situation than we are now.

so you're right...their just a bunch of sh*t sacks.

Massachusetts,these guys were. They did a lousy job of representing most of the people here in Massachusetts.

Is it really so much to ask?

hhhmmmmmm

too little too late? i'll give you 2000+ reasons

and i LIVE here :eyes:

Instead of paying attention to the people, they're paying attention to the money.

They need to go. I said it before and I'll say it again- a vote for the war means a boot out the door.

in the east.

There are lies on both sides. To say that Bush led them into war on lies is itself a lie. But it is the best thing for us if the people believe it and not Bushes lies.


It is a way for the Dems to get off the hook and pass the blame on to Bush. Had they done their jobs there would have not been a war IMHO.

I also like the way they shifted the talking point from their votes being a mistake to the war being a mistake. That puts the onus on *Bushco, where it belongs.

didn't?

I think it was intentional ignorance and actual downright stupidity in thinking this clusterfuck would go well and that they would be on the winning side of this disaster.

Numbnuts, weazel, gasbags.

Okay, now that they've been whacked a bit, scowl at them and tell them now to DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR FUCK UP

for the cookie jar.

As soon as the strong wind was detected, the numbnuts, weasels, and gasbags, gave it the 'oh, cough, cough bit, and decided to sail with the blast.

So glad you woke up to the evils residing in and around the White House.

For your penance, speak up LOUDER about the next crimes you notice them doing.

And more importantly, start listening to your constituents, many of whom were writing letters and demonstrating in the streets against this war.

Represent us.

I think we should keep a list somewhere of the present Democrats and Blue State Republicans in Congress and the extent to which they've repudiated 'Yes' votes on the IWR.

The pretext ('duped' or whatever) they give isn't important, as I see it. (It's all politics here, not deathbed confessions.) Washing their hands of things as they are now matters more.

In the Senate I think Kerry, Reid, Feinstein, Rockefeller, and Daschle can be safely said to have walked away from 'Yes' votes at this point. The most important holdouts at this point are Hillary Clinton and Mr. Joementum, but all five 'Yes'-voting Senators representing parts of the NYC metro area are unrepentant as yet.

god only knows what Joementum is thinking. I wouldn't look for him to recant. He'll ride this one to the bitter end ... like all the good little "Repubs" will do.

the night of that vote. That was the night so many innocents were condemned to death.

But, what they do now that they believe the Bush administration had 'secret plans to go to war no matter what' is the question . Btw, most of us knew that back then, so I'm still wondering why they were duped, but anyway ~ moving forward for the moment. Now, they have no choice but to call for the impeachment of both Bush and Cheney.

They cannot say that the Administration lied about trying to find a peaceful solution, and then just move on. To lie about war is probably one of the worst lies a president can tell.

If a lie about sex got a president impeached, this surely will be something Republicans who voted for the sex impeachment will jump on board for??? Time to test their sincerity about honesty in government. Leaving this cabal in office is dangerous to the lives of the troops and to innocents in other country.

These congressmen need to thoroughly study the PNAC so they understand who really is running this country and what their plans are for Syria, Iran and elsewhere ~ they can no longer turn a blind eye to the danger they present, and then two years from now 'Oh, if only I had known back then .....' The information is available, we got it, they need to get.

I remember Ron Paul bringing Michael Ledeen's book into the House and reading from it his colleagues, warning them about the philosophy of the neocons. So, it's hard for me to believe they had no idea what this administration had planned.

They'll talk down the fact that the lies were obvious years ago, and pretend that the case for war was convincing.

Because, at the time I sure as hell wouldn't have voted to start a war/invasion/occupation of the place based on the "intelligence" I was hearing. Hell, rumsfeld admitted at the time that the info they had was 10 years old & pre- Ritter.
Those guys were afraid not to vote for it, they ought to be kicked the hell out now for being cowards.

That not only were they provided with the info the public was given, but also given or presented with additional false materials that were "classified" (so they can't talk about it...yet).

Remember how Rush Limbaugh smeared her? It was the first "swiftboate-like attack" and it was awful. Also Pat Robertson had some nasty things to say about her.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml

the 126 figure is the Democratic NO votes. The yea votes were 81.

He is one of the few I can count on in that mess of a House. and I say the same for the evil Senate. Everytime I think my temper is under control---wrong. Not yet.I hope the Yea sayers suffer for their dishonesty. We know that they KNEW. Filthy liars.As for these 2 creeps. may they lose their seats in disgrace. Anyone contesting them? I hope. I am sick of Dems who have no scruples. But, the sad thing is , the sheeple will re-elect them. Someday, maybe......

about admitting a mistake. While I wish they had been more informed and tried to get their own data, instead of relying on the the cherry picked data from the Admin. I never believed the Saddam/Osama connection or the WMD-it just never added up. I am proud that I opposed war with Iraq before we went in and made my feelings known in every way I could.

Of course, living in Texas and having seen Bush close up, I knew he was lying because his lips were moving. I figured the rest of the nation might not have picked that up yet-what with all the smoke and mirrors. Of course, many were baying for blood after the 9/11 attacks so there was much pressure on the Congressmen from constituents. Remember, the majority of American's were in favour of the war (of course, they were lied to also).

I applaud members who have the courage to admit a mistake, and I wish more would stop being so mealy mouthed about it. To steal a phrase from Rumsfield....we went to war with the data we were given, not the data we needed.

like Gore, and Dean who opposed the invasion (please don't call it war, its an invasion), they should have done their homework and demand verifiable proof.

They voted for the invasion as they thought it to be the politically correct decision to further their careers.

We need to get rid of most politicians, and slap Howard Dean to wake him up.

Lets have Gore throw his candidacy for 2008, I think the country will see him with different eyes this time, they will not buy the stupid "meme" of Gore being too rigid, not your "lets have a beer kind-of-guy", now the country knows what happens when you vote for an idiot like the one you may want as a clown for one of your barbecues, he'll end up drunk, do all the wrong things and shame you in front of your friends.

We're going to be seeing a lot of these "I would vote different now, but I didn't make a mistake" statements up to the next election. Personally, I think the guys from MA did it early so they could gage the reaction to help those who are in more "at risk" seats. No matter what happens, a Democrat will still occupy Lynch, Markey and Meehan's seats.

I ripped him a new asshole for his vote. He sent me a weak, three page justification, he was clearly troubled and struggling to nuance his reasoning. I slapped the shit out of him, and made sure he knew my military background, too, which is probably why I got the long, serious letter.

They all need to admit that at the very least, their trust in that fucking corporate warmonging Monkey was a mistake of the highest order. The zookeepers sure as hell don't turn the checkbook over to the creature in the chimp cage, and they were wrong to cede their check and balance authority over the executive branch.

May it never happen again!

LIED to me."

ALL they have to say. I'm glad to see some are coming around. A little late, though...

Are these people gods who never err - like, say... Bush? What's so hard about saying, "I was duped. I made a mistake."? What's so hard about that?

Here, watch. It's easy, really.

"The teacher gave us the wrong information in class which caused me to make a mistake on my test."

"The guy on the radio said gas was cheaper on the corner. I made the mistake of listening to him and ended up paying a dime more than the people down the street."

See...? It's simple, really.