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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:54 PM
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State constitutional ban on same-sex marriage wins approval in Texas.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:56 PM
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1. Can't say I'm shocked...
I knew this was going to happen. However, this vote is absolutely the last one I take as a Texan.

I guess I can count my blessings :)

:hug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:59 PM
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3. leaving texas I take it
and no I am not shocked
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:07 PM
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9. yeah.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 09:09 PM by Scooter24
This vote was just the last straw. Me and my boyfriend knew long ago that it was going to come to this, but we had hoped for a closer race. I think I've invested enough of my money here, time for a change. :)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:10 PM
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10. Scooter, you are welcome here in Maryland.
:hug:
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:03 AM
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62. Or here in Minnesota.
We're very blue!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:30 AM
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76. Well, there were a fourth of us in Houston voted right!
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:57 PM
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2. congrads to the KKK.
GOP doing the hard work for them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:56 PM
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:02 AM
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60. Word of God...
enough said.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:25 AM
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73. But how far...
are you willing to take this concept that America should be governed by the "word of God"?

I'm assuming you mean "word of God" as in the Bible. Since the Bible also condemns divorce and condones slavery, do you believe American law should be altered to be in line with its teachings?
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:02 PM
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4. New link
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bkcc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:05 PM
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5. Shocking.
Actually, the only shocking part is that it took this long for them to pass this into law. Usually, Texas leads the way on wingnut Christian legislation.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:05 PM
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6. Join the ranks of ridiculously prejudiced states that have come before,
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 09:05 PM by deadparrot
Texas!

:hi:

Greetings from MO (We did this last year).
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:07 PM
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7. Duh
That's right behind the Kansas School Board as far as "good" news (not!).

It's a freaky news night. I'm here in CA. Let's hope we humiliate Schwarzenegger. Two more hours until the polls close.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:07 PM
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8. When will they begin criminalizing "said" violation?
What will the violation be worth to the so very righteous ones?

misdemeanor? felony? Where will they draw the line?

GOP tactics evolve this way ya know.

Are door to door searches in the future somewhere?

I live in Fort Worth and know a few gay couples. My line of work finds many of them. Kind, humorous, talented, generous, taxpaying, American born citizens.

Geez this makes me sick.
Its not any government's business.
But it is not just Texas. Its a National disgrace. (ok, except for Massachusettes)
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:34 PM
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31. "... taxpaying, American born citizens."
Excellent point. If straight people are going to legislate that gay people have fewer rights than they do, then gay people shouldn't have to pay as much taxes as straights if they can't have 100% of the same rights. How many nazi party members would volunteer to make up the payments of gays who shouldn't be paying the same amount of taxes of straights? That should've been part of prop 2. :mad:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:10 PM
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11. Kudos to Travis County, though.
There is at least one bastion of sanity in this godforsaken state.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:31 AM
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77. That was good to see
I was actually surprised at the margin voting against it in Travis. I thought that they might be the one county in TX to oppose the ban, but figured it would be by a narrow margin. After all, Travis actually supported * in 2000.

As for my own home county of Orange, the stupid amendment actually passed with like 92-percent; one of the worst percentages in the entire state. Sad, we were actually once a Dem stronghold (actually went for Mondale back in the day; were voting Dem for Pres. as recently as '96). I know there are obviously plenty in TX who are Dems but don't support gay marriage, but am surprised at just how awful the percentages are in my part of the state on this issue.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:16 AM
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80. Austin has a pretty sizable gay community.
I noticed that when I first moved here. They even have a widely-advertised gay pride parade. This is a very liberal city, and not just where the issue of gayness is concerned. Most people living here are truly open-minded. Sometimes in passing I meet people from other parts of Texas and it's like, "Um...where did YOU come from?" Austin is its own little world. People live and let live.
:loveya:
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:12 PM
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12. Thank God the sanctity of marriage is saved. BARF!!!!
just ask all the divorced Texans about how the gays ruined their holy union. DUH!!!
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:14 PM
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14. Dont worry. If Slavery was on the ballot they would have voted to reinstate
it too.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:23 PM
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40. My Texas county voted against secession in 1861!!!
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xyboymil Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:13 PM
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13. Remember: this is the same state that had gay sex (sodomy) banned too!
Til of course the Supreme Court overuled it.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:12 AM
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66. If Alito Gets On the SC, those Sodomy Laws May Be Coming Back
Those laws are still on the books, unless the Legislature went to
the trouble of repealing them.

If Lawrence v. Texas gets overturned, those Texas sodomy laws come
back into full force and effect immediately.

The real reason they want to ban gay marriage is to make sure they
can enforce the sodomy laws once they get a Court that will overturn
Lawrence. If a couple is legally married, there would be a strong
presumption under law that it is legal for them to have sex.

They don't just want to bay gay marriage, they want to ban gay people.

These Supreme Court nominations really do matter.
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:16 PM
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15. Wel, that's over.
What sin can we outlaw now?? I suggest dancing.
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:30 AM
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86. ooo, let's ban the interest those moneychangers make!
:cry:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:16 PM
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16. Great! Those Repukes feel like they won something that would never
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 09:22 PM by applegrove
have effected their lives in any way. And they have taken away much from people who are human. :applause: :sarcasm: Just like with the lions in the Coliseum. Much winning and loosing - and cruelty. And doesn't cost the rich assholes a dam thing to keep the crowds entertained.

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:20 PM
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18. Unfortunately now they will try to outlaw more things they
disapprove of that have nothing to do with them.

They're in everybody elses business.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:22 PM
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19. Doesn't cost the "winners" of this issue a dam thing. Their balls
and lives and marriages were never on the line. What great sport! :sarcasm:
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:46 PM
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55. There are no winners in this
Nobody with an ounce of sense would possibly believe that gay marriage is going to make heterosexual couples change sexual identity, that's absurd. This is nothing but a ploy to legally punish people you disagree with, and who are considered safe to penalize.

This is cruel, sadistic, and completely against what America stands for. I live in Texas; I am a heterosexual woman, married for the second time. On my next anniversary, I will have been married to my husband for 20 years. Before I met my husband, my then teen-age children had a close friend who is gay.

He has been in a stable, loving, committed relationship for at least 15 years. I am still straight, and still married. I would defy any idiot to explain to me how this close friend, who I love like a son, is any kind of threat to my marriage, or to any other marriage.

Come on, homophobes, explain to me, in terms I can relate to, and understand, how he and his partner threaten me, or any other heterosexual couple. You can't. You vote for these laws in order to cater to your sadistic side, in order to inflict pain, and unhappiness. Nothing more. You are the scum of the earth...you are a stink in my nostrils, you are an affront to love and decency everywhere.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:25 AM
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85. I agree that the people who think they won this issue have lost a
great challenge. The challenge and reward of loving all.
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dwightspencer Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:25 PM
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21. A glimmer of hope
One of the major groups calling attention to this measure pointed out that this measure could meet its end in court, yet. The language actually could make marriage unlawful in the Lone Star State according to Save Texas Marriage.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:43 PM
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33. Well no group of people should go to the polls and see themselves
on a ballot in name - for strangers to decide on. That just sucks.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:59 PM
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37. I'm sure they did it that way on purpose....
so they can drag it out again whenever they want to draw out the fundies in future elections.l
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:27 PM
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45. it may
but that doesn't mean it will end up in court. There is probably nothing in the Texas Constitution, before this amendment, therefore if it actually bans marriage, then it bans marriage and they wait for the next election to change it.
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:18 PM
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17. im shocked..
really..
dont i look it?
ok, im not shocked, i grew up in texas...
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:23 PM
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20. shit
Damn I hate Texas; I am leaving as soon a possible. Stupid fucking redneck idiots.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:03 AM
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61. No they are bigots
At least the ones who voted Yes to this assinine proposition. For the records, bigots are NOT CHRISTIAN. Nothing these people do resemble Jesus' teachings in any way. They are FILLED with hate.
Enjoy your (hopefully) brief stay here.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:24 AM
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72. Show me, please, where it says in the Bible...
... that God will puke. I really want to see that.
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:05 AM
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63. No we hate them because many are bigots
duh.
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:17 AM
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68. enough with the flamebait
nobody on this thread is dumping on christians in general...just the hateful people who voted in favor of this proposition
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:26 PM
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22. shocked, shocked I tell you

Don't worry. This largely means the State of Texas has once again elected to be a defendant in an embarrassing gay rights federal lawsuit, will be one of the states sending some guy with a bad haircut and pouch belly to D.C. to embarrass the state in front of the Supreme Court to the rest of the country again. That may 'work' once or twice, but it loses in the end and then, once again, surprise- nobody in Texas turns out ever to have had anything to do with it.
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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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23. TEXAS VOTERS APPROVE CONSTITUTIONAL BAN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
TEXAS VOTERS APPROVE CONSTITUTIONAL BAN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE


http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396


Looks like we lost a little today. I hope that some gains can be made in other states.

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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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24. sorry, I didn't see the post below.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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25. Welcome to du strathos wish it were under better circumstances.
So i guess the wing nuts dont like the idea of two people who care about each other to get married but they love torture?
Morality in this country is going to hell.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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26. It's Texas. Why would anyone be surprised?
As a former 9-year resident of the state, I can say without pause that Texas is like living on another planet. And it's not a good planet; it's a place you'd like to see--from the window of a speeding car.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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29. Pipe down. I live in TX and I'll bet
our lives are either now similar or were when I lived in CO, or when I grew up in NY. Another planet it is not. Please stop.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:30 PM
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47. no it's not
Just another fly over state, almost Kansan in fact
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:23 AM
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84. Another misguided mean spirited planet, it IS.
lived here all my life. Family goes back 4 or more generations and I can attest that Texas has always had a mean streak with respect to social issues and empathy and respect for the rights of others.

I am quite ashamed of my state. If you looked at the history of violence and oppression - especially with respect to land acquisition dating forward from the 1850s to now, and look at the racism prevailent from the Republic, on through the Civil War and to Reconstruction - on up to the present day - a pattern is quite evident.

Ignorance, jingoism, ethnocentrism and religeous buffoonery has much to do with it.

I can't say much good about Texas as far as its culture and politial climate go.

We'd stil have lynchings here if they were not discouraged.
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castiron Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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27. yeah, it was really great to pull into my Texas polling place
and see a whole sea of churchy fishes on cars. Barf o matic: count me in the minority!!
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:31 PM
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28. Oh well there's a shock....
What do you expect? It's Texas!
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:33 PM
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30. three words: Fuck You, Texpukes.
Texpukes, because I know not all Texans are pukes. Only the Texpukes.

why can't they judge people by their character rather than by who they kiss? Ohhh yeah, because then they'd have to cut THEMSELVES out of Constitutional protection.

:angry:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:51 PM
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35. Texpukes is good, I like that
I'm devastated by how few good people turned out to vote. I'm having a very bad night.

F*** them one and all! :cry:
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:35 PM
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51. it just came into my head
and I know that not all Texans suck...so I had to come up with something. Yeah, Texpukes...nice ring to it. Heh!

I'm so sorry you're doing poorly, it IS depressing seeing people STILL in the HATE club.

I finished work just in time to get to my voting place. It was only for small local offices, so no big concern. But I still hope dems win it. Haven't checked any news so I don't know what the story is.

And I agree, F repukes!!! geez, I can't believe how angry those lard-brains make me. Ugh!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:34 PM
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32. If executing gays were on the ballot in Texas, it would win in a landslide
I love my fellow Democrats in Texas and truly know how much tougher it is to be progressive there...I lived there nearly 16 years.
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Gopens Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:52 PM
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36. Well, I still live here, and I'm ashamed
Today, some 74 percent of those who voted in Texas today sent a resounding message: We agree with the Ku Klux Klan.

Of course, everyone knew this would pass, but it doesn't ease the sickening feeling in my gut one bit. What a sad, bigoted place.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:00 PM
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38. Well, time is not on the bigot's side. Thanx for standing tall for justice
It's a hell of a lot easier to be liberal in California or New York than it is in Texas.

That's why so many great liberals have come out of Texas...because they fight like hell.

I think you are terrific!
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:26 PM
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42. All of you good progressives move up here,
we'll send our wingnuts down there, and then we'll let them form their own WingNutLand. Like Candy Land, only instead of candy, they have guns on the game.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:46 PM
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34. Let's Watch The Texas Divorce Rates...
I was saddened by the results of Proposition Two, but I hoped that more decent and fair-minded people would turn out to vote against it.

As for the pietists who thought that they were "protecting marriage" by voting for this vicious, mean-spirited measure--just see what sort of protection this measure will provide matrimony against the hammer blows of drug addiction, long-term and severe illness, garnisheeing, industrial and automobile accidents, as well as profiteering employers' demands for yet more and more of their employees' time.

Watch the divorce rates--and see what a hollow victory you have won.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:17 PM
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39. The capital of Jesusland has spoken
Science and critical thinking are next!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:27 PM
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:35 PM
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50. you voted for it?
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 10:35 PM by mitchtv
and you call us bigots. What you mean "we"?
"so many Xians, so few lions"
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:40 PM
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52. Can I ask why you voted for it? n/t
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:45 PM
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54. You are not a Democrat, so stop lying.
Democrats do NOT vote for bigotry and hatred.

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:10 PM
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56. you would just luuuv the trollskin rug i'm making
Turned his own self in , too.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:05 AM
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78. Sadly
While I'm not defending the troll, there were definitely more than a few Dems that voted for this stupid amendment. Consider Jefferson County (Beaumont and Port Arthur) in Southeast TX. They narrowly supported Kerry (51-49) in '04, but supported the gay marriage ban with over 80% of the vote.

We still have a long way to go, in this state and in America as a whole, on the matter of getting people to acknowledge that gays are people and deserve civil rights.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:09 AM
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79. unfortunately they do at times
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:32 PM
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48. I think that already was done
Look at their graduate, Shrub.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:24 PM
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41. Wow. Big surprise. Bigotry lives in Texas???
Amazing.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:27 PM
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43. "This is what I mean, an anti-###### machine"
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 10:28 PM by derby378
"If I come out alive, then they won't come clean"

(Apologies to Public Enemy)

I'm disheartened by the results. I'm sorry, guys - we really tried to stop this shit from going down.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:29 PM
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46. Dear GLBTs, we Texas liberals are SO sorry.
We tried.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:32 PM
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49. This makes me sick.
I'm not sure how much longer I can stand being surrounded by ignorance.
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Mike_The_Computer Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:01 AM
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59. Sorry Texas, but beautiful Maine gets my vacation money now.
Bushcorp really did a number on us gays in those last two elections, let me tell ya!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:20 AM
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70. Yeh, his big tent has turned into a pup tent
There are camping areas close to Bar Harbor Maine that are so beautiful.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:30 AM
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92. If you're talking about summer vacations--why would you come to Texas?
Except for Shrub lurking on his pig farm, the whole Bush family agrees with you.

(Texas weather can be fine in the Autumn & Spring--& parts of the Winter, too.)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:17 AM
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69. My heart aches for the cruelty Texas has placed on their GLBT
There is nothing Christian about it. I only guess it's a W bravado John Wayne thing. They disgust me.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:27 AM
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74. and the sun shall continue to revolve 'round earth.
Flat earth, bass ackwards, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Stil Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:28 AM
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75. My problem
Was not as much this vote. But today in local repub's. Started the morning with conversation with two of them. Both saying they were voting today. Both voting for the definition of marrarige. I then asked them what they thought about the other props. and its "well, we will figure it out then". This converation was echoed during the day. It appears Abramhoff if not himself but his spirit continues. The wackos are coming out, and they still don't know what they are voting for or against. They got the memo, email, sermon, whatever and came out to vote. Not knowing what they were voting for was not going to stop them. I did request if they did not know what they were voting for at least think about not voting on the items. I don't think it really sunk in. Having laws passed by toss of the coin is a major problem. But the having educated voters seem to be a problem for the republican values.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:22 AM
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83. The GOP are the only ones who can understand their values
They seem like an intolerant mean-spirited arrogant group with no hint of Christianity.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:20 AM
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81. I'm not at all shocked it passed
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 01:24 AM by fujiyama
but the percentage by which it did is pretty appalling.



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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:21 AM
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82. meh...
not like it actually changes anything one way or the other.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 01:43 AM
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87. See the thread in GDN or DailyKos
This ammendment actually prevents Texas from recongizing any marrige -- homo or hetro. Texas just divorced an entire state.
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 02:04 AM
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88. The people have spoken...
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 02:57 AM
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89. Pity
Every single person I know in Texas voted against it, and are disgusted with their fellow Texans.
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Avalon Sparks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 03:04 AM
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90. The fundies came out in droves....
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 03:10 AM by Avalon Sparks
That's the rational explanation. The self-righteous pious fundies came out in droves to vote against the gay people. I live in Dallas and this is something that happened today in my world...

Today in an office building there were two women behind me talking as we were walking through the atrium, an Anglo and African American.

The AA said to the other woman, I need to go and vote you know that gay thing is on the ballot.

The Anglo said "How are you going to vote"?

The AA said for it.

I turned around to see who the 'hater' was, and that's the first time I realized it was an African American woman.

I gave her a FU look.

She then said loudly - "Some people don't realize that voting for it (Prop 2) means that your against gay marriage.

I then said loudly. "And some people are against equality and civil rights"

I then turned around again and said:

"How surprising to find a minority voting to oppress the civil rights of others"

She responded lamely "How surprising that you'd find your way into my conversation"

I said "Freedom of Speech"


I was so pissed after that... so pissed at the ignorance in this state.

I mean how can that bitch not realize that the same type of religous and social arguments were used to oppress minorities not so long ago.
How can someone be that ignorant??????? How fucking dare she?

And I agree with another poster that mentioned that so many people came out to vote against the gays and then proceeded to vote on all the other amendments... even though they had no idea what they were voting for or against.

I can't tell you how much, how much I hate these evangicals... these assholes, these self righteous, smug fucked up people.

So eager are they to vote against gay people. And then just pull a 'wing it' vote for all the other issues on the ballot.

What whores they are for corporate interests and the other bullshit amendments that were on the table today, that further corporate interests and hurt the middle class.

I'd go to war against them in a second. They are bringing this whole country to it's knees with their IGNORANCE





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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:26 AM
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91. Disgusting. Since this was an "off" election year, turnout was low.
But those who support the "Sanctity of Marriage" DID turn out.

Don't know the figures for my precinct yet. But the only signs I saw in my neighborhood were Against Proposition 2. And the only Proposition 2 literature being distributed outside the polling place was also Against.

At least I made the effort. I voted for Mayor White, too. But he had no serious opposition--another reason Houstonians may have stayed home.
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