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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:43 PM
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CIA was warned that treatment techniques violated international convention
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/CIA_was_warned_by_inspector_general_1108.html

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A classified report issued last year by the CIA's inspector general warned that interrogation procedures approved by the CIA after the Sept. 11 attacks might violate some provisions of the international Convention Against Torture, current and former intelligence officials tell the New York Times for Wednesday page ones... Excerpts...

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The previously undisclosed findings from the report, which was completed in the spring of 2004, reflected deep unease within the CIA about the interrogation procedures, the officials said. A list of 10 techniques authorized early in 2002 for use against suspected terrorists included one known as known as waterboarding, and went well beyond those authorized by the military for use on prisoners of war.

The convention, which was drafted by the United Nations, bars torture, which is defined as the infliction of "severe" physical or mental pain or suffering, and prohibits lesser abuses that fall short of torture if they are "cruel, inhuman or degrading." The United States is a signatory, but with some reservations set when it was ratified by the Senate in 1994.
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The report, by John L. Helgerson, the CIA's inspector general, did not conclude that the techniques constituted torture, which is also prohibited under American law, the officials said. But Helgerson did find, the officials said, that the techniques appeared to constitute cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment under the convention.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/CIA_was_warned_by_inspector_general_1108.html
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:48 PM
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1. If ever there was a "rogue element", it's here
CIA officials have all but said directly that torture doesn't work.

So whose CIA approved this? George Tenet's?

And we all know what kind of wrath HE endured from the Shrub admin...
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:48 PM
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2. We do not torture.
That is what Dear Leader says.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:51 PM
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3. oh, so it's called treatment techniques.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:54 PM
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4. It's the Cheney way
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 09:56 PM by bonito
From democracy now.. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/27/1451229 snip. Lawyer Scott Horton: “Vice President Cheney is the Man Who Unleashed Torture and Promoted it Within Our Military and Our Intelligence Service”
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:53 PM
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7. Looking at pictures of Cheney
with that snarl on his face, makes it perfectly believable that he encouraged the use of torture. The man can't even appear human when being photographed. He has either a sneer, or a snarl. Regardless of which face he presents to the world, he is a completely amoral, corrupt, arrogant man, who needs to stand trial at the Hague.

He is the very worst of what America is. He has damaged our reputation, and our actions, worldwide. Cheney is the perfect poster boy for the Bush administration.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:57 PM
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5. the CIA was going to be made the fall guys for everything!!!
You can see Bush is trying to destroy the CIA!!!
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:27 PM
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6. Don't the pictures (Abu Gharib) come out in the next week or so?
Bad stretch for the Bushies. The combination of these stories, especially with the rendition and secret jails may cause Cheney to have an "episode."

I don't think he'll be in office come the '06 elections.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:41 PM
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8. Report Warned on C.I.A.'s Tactics in Interrogation NYT
A classified report issued last year by the Central Intelligence Agency's inspector general warned that interrogation procedures approved by the C.I.A. after the Sept. 11 attacks might violate some provisions of the international Convention Against Torture, current and former intelligence officials say.

The previously undisclosed findings from the report, which was completed in the spring of 2004, reflected deep unease within the C.I.A. about the interrogation procedures, the officials said. A list of 10 techniques authorized early in 2002 for use against terror suspects included one known as waterboarding, and went well beyond those authorized by the military for use on prisoners of war.

The convention, which was drafted by the United Nations, bans torture, which is defined as the infliction of "severe" physical or mental pain or suffering, and prohibits lesser abuses that fall short of torture if they are "cruel, inhuman or degrading." The United States is a signatory, but with some reservations set when it was ratified by the Senate in 1994.

The report, by John L. Helgerson, the C.I.A.'s inspector general, did not conclude that the techniques constituted torture, which is also prohibited under American law, the officials said. But Mr. Helgerson did find, the officials said, that the techniques appeared to constitute cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment under the convention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/politics/09detain.html?hp&ex=1131512400&en=50d901027e61366e&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:50 PM
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9. The CIA backed out of ALL interrogations after the invasion of Iraq....
...because they disagreed with the methods being used by the U. S. military and other non-CIA intelligence groups.

Now, what they may have done in Afghanistan is a different story.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:07 AM
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10. OK, but the neo-cons have used mercenaries, most of this was privatized.
This recent article focuses on outsourced military interrogators, draw your own conclusions about intelligence agencies.

"Meet the New Interrogators: Lockheed Martin" by Pratap Chatterjee
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12757
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