Ohio Election Results - State Issues 2-5 - Election Reform

OH-Issues-Glance-Issue 2 Vote by Mail
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
Yes 761,926 36%
No 1,347,578 64%
Precincts Reporting - 8834 out of 11546 - 77%

OH-Issues-Glance-Issue 3 Campaign Contribution Limits
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
Yes 674,530 32%
No 1,408,715 68%
Precincts Reporting - 8795 out of 11546 - 76%

OH-Issues-Glance-Issue 4 Apportionment
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
Yes 611,613 29%
No 1,467,428 71%
Precincts Reporting - 8809 out of 11546 - 76%

OH-Issues-Glance-Issue 5 Elections Board
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
Yes 606,210 29%
No 1,461,328 71%
Precincts Reporting - 8820 out of 11546 - 76%


http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/5268780/detail.html

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:grr:

People are fools

The repukes beat the issues to death with commercials also. People were still asking me yesterday what they were all about. I thought at least issue 2 would surely pass allowing early absentee voting. I was dumbfounded to see that it failed. The people here in Ohio have displayed their ignorance again. I think that they should have not had so many issues on the ballot at one time. People were also voting with electronics for the first time also. I think that they could have been somewhat overwhelmed with this also.

Boggles the mind.

"Keep giving our taxpayer $$ to political contributers... because maybe... someday... we can scrape enough together to become a political contributor and hit the "tax-payer-funded-no-bid-contract" lottery!

Would love an explanation of the dynamics of this election from some Ohioan DUers.

They got away with it during a Presidential election, why not do the same during off-year elections?

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All the polling leading up to today and all the exit polling said these were gonna get killed. There is nothing that said these initiatives were going to pass.

I am nauseated at the idiocy of Ohio's electorate.

The GOP ran their usual fear-mongering ads - Beware of the fine print yadda, yadda, and the moronic voters fell for them.

Even here in Dem Cuyahoga County, the margin wasn't as large as it should have been. CAN'T PEOPLE THINK ANYMORE?

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

From these tallies, it looks like those favoring election reform were not focusing on these measures. Any Ohioans out there who can explain these votes?

Hmmmmmmm...

Peace.

TV spots played on vague fears citing "fine print." I even had a loyal Dem (elderly guy, easily confused) ask me whether he should vote no.

You'd think organizers would have predicted and prepared for it, but not well enough apparently. :(

both sides. But Issue 2, I couldn't understand why that failed. I don't think anybody really opposed that, except for the group that opposed all the measures blindly, and Blackwell.

I don't understand it either. I think people just grouped the issues together. That's the only logical conclusion I can come up with.

Wow, can you believe this. Disaster.

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=4092514&nav=Lrzs

They have a problem with fraud, you know...I would be suspicious of ANY results out of Ohio until we fix the fraud/reThug-owned voting machine problem

all exite polling and polling leading to voting day showed these props were gonna get killed.

Geez.......

Peace.

Why should ANYONE believe the election results about election issues in Ohio?

Man, Ohio is in a world of hurt.

The buckeyes must like corruption in their democracy. Bless their Diebold voting machine tally hearts.

http://www.ohiohonestelections.org/

But, someone from Ohio, please explain to us why these measures should lose so badly.

We went Kerry 850 votes to 120 for Bush. These issues were voted 65/35 for in my precinct with 250 votes. I really thought it would have been a larger spread.

I have no clue as to the reason.

Organizers did a pisspoor job if you ask me. Don't know what the respective dollars spent were, but I'd be really surprised if the repigs didn't outspend us 2-1.

Achooo! Excuse me I'm allergic to Bushit.

God bless America.

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"poll workers were talking too much, which made it difficult to concentrate while voting"

I work the polls and all I can say is.....buck it up halfwit.

The poll workers are there from 6 in the morning to 8 at night. We are talking to stay awake. If people are so feeble minded that they cant concentrate on voting perhaps they should come prepared with a cheat sheet.

as of 2am and results are a mess

W T F?

I don't know much about Ohio politics, but I'm surprised that a state that has received so much attention for corruption and discrepancies in the last election wouldn't at least have a closer vote for reform. What do Ohioans think? I'd really like to know. (And I'm not the type of person who latches onto every conspiracy.)

And I'm an Ohioan. There wasn't much put out in favor of the issues and then a couple of weeks ago the repigs started their campaign of fear. The devil's in the details... etc. If you knew what the issues were the ads were laughable in their vagary, but people didn't know because the organizers ran a lousy campaign.

The measures were too wordy and too confusing, so even when they read it in the voting booth there wasn't much hope they'd understand it.

Poor job - us
Better job - them

Again.

state Dems were NOT strongly backing these while the pukes went all out to stop them.

It would be ridiculous to blame Diebold for this. It's just another classic case of "bureaucrats want to spend your money" issue framing. As was stated before, there was tons of negative spin for these ballot issues and very little support.

They get what they deserve. I'm glad I'll be toodlin'next year. Lots of nice friends (my progressive peeps) but the rest of the morons are cannon fodder.

nt

Too many ads running on the television as to why voting for these issues was a bad idea. I didn't see any ads in favor of the issues. I agree with the poster above......Too, too wordy. I had family Dems asking me how they should vote.

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The long statewide ballot issues confused some voters Tuesday in an off-year election with light turnout and few glitches from the use of new voting machines in about half of Ohio's 88 counties.

http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/5283131/detail.html

the issues were about. Many people here on DU thought at least issue 2 would pass, but I can't remember any ads stating what issue 2 was about.

And the Ohio Democratic Party didn't do much at all to urge voters to vote for the issues.

Just "vote for reform". There was even one "voting for these will help politicians get back to issues that matter" ad that just came out of nowhere. As for the party--I got at least two calls "from John Glenn" to vote for the issues, but that is the least effective way to affect my vote (I hang up on recorded messages). Also got one from the Dem mayor of Youngstown AGAINST them :shrug:

People don't like to buy a pig in a poke and I suspect that was a factor. Hubby voted against Issue 3 after reading it and researching it because he felt it was badly written and wouldn't do what it intended to do.

horrible job getting out the info on these issues on our part. also the fact there were 5 progressive issues.

Face it, Ohio dems aren't prepared to promote five issues right now. take it one at a time, and concentrate on that one. put all the resources behind that one.

locally though, here in franklin county, we passed issue 7, which helps out adults with disabilities, and we elected some democrats to local posts, such as county clerk. the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...

The issues were too long, too complex and far too many. We could have passed one or two of them, but five long issues just turned people off.

... I don't think Diebold can be blamed.

I mean, after your communities have been decimated and state & local governments have been riddled with unprecedented corruption- did anyone really think that the majority in a state like that would vote for a change?

I sure didn't. It got that way for a reason.

Oh well, too bad for them- and my condolences to those who can't get out of that place.

I expected 2 & 3 to pass. I didn't see any of the recent polling alluded to here that showed them going down to defeat. 2 & 3 were polling well at one point a week or two out.

I blame 3 things: One, the anti-reform commercials. I didn't see any but I was told by numerous people they were effective.

Two, the excessive detail in the amendments themselves.

Three, the progressive voters in Ohio who would not put any effort into promoting the issues around the state.

The organization "Ohio First" that ran the opposition to reform had only 170 donars who's average contribution was over $12,000.

That's it. 170 people can swing a whole state if the rest of us don't fight it.