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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:30 PM
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US plans to leave equipment with Iraq army ("thousands of trucks...")
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. military plans to leave thousands of trucks and combat vehicles for the Iraq Army.

Officials said the Defense Department has approved a plan in which the U.S. military would not withdraw from Iraq together with much of the equipment deployed in that country since 2003. Instead, the U.S. Army and Marine Corps would transfer the vehicles and weaponry to the Iraq Army.

U.S. commanders and their Iraqi counterparts have been discussing the transfer of U.S.-origin weaponry and vehicles, officials said. They said the transfer to the Iraq Army would take place in stages.

"We have discussed what our ability will be in the long run to leave behind some additional equipment for them over time, so that they have the same capabilities that we do, or very nearly," Maj. Gen. William Webster, commander of Multinational Division, Baghdad, said.

http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2005/november/11_10_3.html


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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:36 PM
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1. They WHY did we send pallets of cash to buy old Soviet Crap?
:grr:WTF:grr:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:37 PM
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2. Damn!!! No Army Surplus!
I'll have to wait for the rapture to get a new one.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:37 PM
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3. Neat. In a decade, Bush 4 or 5 can say that they're mobile biological
weapons platforms, they're sure of it, we have to steal the oil to stop them.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:39 PM
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4. I am sick of these murderous bastards wasting my $$$
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:41 PM
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5. bushco cant wait to just give our shit away to his buddies,
trucks, weapons, supplies, construction, pallets of cash, whatever. here you go, no no you dont have to pay us back, no I insist you will NOT pay us back.

but when it comes to something weve already paid for up front with our tax dollars. say fema or medicaid...he demands the fucking people reimburse it or make it up with punishing targeted tax increases.

bastards. god damned soulless bastards.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:44 PM
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6. Uh...Gang...this is how the Taliban took over Afghanistan when we left
tons of equipment and weapons after aiding them in their fight against USSR.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:47 PM
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7. Sounds like a decent idea.. for once
We give them the beat to hell shit and take the good stuff home. That way they just fix it there.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:59 PM
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8. Just How much equipment do you think was left in Vietnam
jeeps,tanks.helicopters,amunition,and the list goes on and on........
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:30 PM
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9. Left where? On the tarmac to stage the Syrian invasion?
Sounds like advance operational planning to me...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 06:38 PM
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10. We left all our stuff in Viet Nam too
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:21 PM
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12. Including a deep water port that was state of the art
The russkies got a load of use out of it!
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:10 PM
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11. So that's how they (the Military-Industrial-Complex) do it...
They (the MIC) just ship their 'used' stuff abroad, murder and maim tens of thousands of innocents (including 'poorer' Americans...) with it, and then...

They 'leave' the old 'used' stuff over there! :grr:

Then, after doing some mandatory inventory count back home, they realize they 'need' ten times more 'new' 'human beings' killin' machines' so they pass the bill to the taxpayers...

Now I'm not so sure sure they R all stupid MF'ers... MF'ers, yes. No doubt... But the real stupid ones are the taxpayers who would still vote for them, even if they'd be robbed by these MF'ers in their own homes every night, IMHO!! Alright, that's WHAT they do, figuratively...(Almost.)

http://costofwar.com

http://icasualties.org
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:29 PM
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13. Oh, and don't forget, the equipment we leave, will need spare parts...
...in future. Guess what country will supply them...at a cost, of course. The military industrial complex will make money off of us for the "next generation" equipment they'll be griping for, while also making money revamping old equipment in Iraq! It really is a racket.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:38 PM
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14. We won't have a choice but to leave them as
we boogie off the roof of the Embassy in helos (again)
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:41 PM
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15. US too broke to move tanks out.
Great, we always have to send our troops in to face weapons we sold, or allowed to be sold.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:40 AM
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16. It's thrashed.. Of course they don;t want to bring it home.
They leave junk behind, get all NEW stuff and the Iraqis then have to buy spare parts from us..It's a win-win for the Pentagon
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:45 AM
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17. Yep, and "good targets" too!
-D. Rumsfeld
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:59 AM
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18. "Your tax dollars at work." . . . no, wait . . . that's not right . . .
it's more like "Your grandchildren's (and great grandchildren's tax dollars at work.") . . .

borrowing billions to conduct an illegal and immoral war may just be the height of hubris and hypocrisy . . . isn't it about time these people were called to account? . . . and made to pay for their misdeeds? . . .
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:28 AM
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19. This is done for a reason...
1) don't need to transport it all back

2) a great reason to outfit the U.S. military will all new stuff

3) have an on going huge contract to supply replacement parts

4) have an on going huge contract to supply new military equipment

Just like with the first gulf war, we expended our arsenal of old equipment and retooled. Like rumspuke said, "you go to war with the military you have". He was referring to the equipment and as a result sees this war as his way to "revolutionize" the military by replacing everything with new stuff, thus justifying the pentagons blotted budget.

this war has different meanings for each branch, but for the pentagon, it only meant one thing: new stuff.

So while peoples loves ones are dying over their, remember this, they are there not to bring the Iraqi's freedom but to use up the old stuff.

When you dovetail that thought along with all the other fucked up reasons and the lies, then it will all be come clear.

They don't give a shit about us or the Iraqi's. It's all about money. If it wasn't why would then be sending plane loads of cash over there...

It's all bullshit.

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:53 PM
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20. It's "Pentagon capitalism"
We've been doing it since WWII.
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