Bush, GOP mired in political quicksand (NBC/WSJ poll)

Whoda thought?

Usually I add, "I thought 9/11 changed everything, so that shitty presidents got good numbers now."

Nobody's ever responded before.

Besides, if 9/11 changed everything, KATRINA CHANGED IT ALL BACK. To such a degree that the shitty president from the shitty party can't avoid the shitty numbers anymore - in reality, in the national zeitgeist, AND the media. They aren't exactly ignoring the polls anymore, either.

I think it may be called just desserts, buyers' remorse, karma, and come-uppance.

point utter incompetence is going to catch up with * eventually.

un-freaking-believable

Bu$hco is in free-fall. I'll bet they are watching for a bounce from the spin on the Jordanian bombings. Get ready for :puke: points from the GOP tomorrow (if not tonight!).

That his hero King George is going down in flames?

awwww

finds it damned convenient. not sure where she thinks he found people willing to commit suicide for him. especially with those poll numbers. maybe the moonies.

With EVERYTHING that has gone on, and there is too too much, I WOULD NOT put it past them.

It takes the Elections Off the radar screen, and this HAS ALWAYS been their M.O.!!!

They are EVIL, EVIL, EVIL!!

This WH has really screwed us ROYALLY... I said it before we went to Iraq that this was going to be a DISASTER!!! Just like fire ants coming out of their holes and attacking!! Such an Outrage!!!

it is crazy.

I just don't think wild conspiracy theories are a good thing for us to indulge in. They only work against you in the end. We need facts. Sorry.

on very many occasions, but the problem is.... WE NEVER GET FACTS!!

Ergo, we are left with "theories!"

Its kind of like the "crying wolf" thing, after a certain amount of time you just "think" weird things!!!

No offense.....but.....DU "theories" become MSM "facts" about 2-3 years too late.

A lot of them don't.

it would appear terrorism is spreading, not democracy

they don't need suicide bombings to take their minds off of reality - that's what Natalee and Michael Jackson are for

they used mercenaries who get paid to be violently stupid. Maybe some really poor smuck needed money for his family, so he blew himself up.

INCREDIBLY fortuitous timing of this attack, which took the bush/ONE-TERMinator drubbings off the front pages and lead stories. I found myself wondering whom kkkarl called to get the ball rolling. Chalabi's certainly in town again, isn't he?

say that Syria looks like a good candidate for the bombings. There ya go, Repub talking points. Will the masses go for that story again and allow bush to bomb critical areas of Syria?

these criminals don't recognize anyone's authority over them. They are just waiting for an excuse to attack Syria and they won't be asking permission.

little smirker and his snarly lying friends.

Dynamic Duo? While Bush is in free-fall, I believe Cheney has hit bottom. I just read that The Snarler has an approval rating of 19%. That's unbelievable. It must be some kind of record.

The man is so out of touch that he's pushing as hard as he can to approve torture. Hard to believe.

Someone said (about Cheney), "Acting like a sphinx isn't getting him anywhere".

Here it is, from pollingreport.com:

http://www.pollingreport.com/C.htm#Cheney%20FAV

Scroll down (it's the CBS poll - - first one under favorability). The lastest CBS favorability poll has W at 33%, by the way.

Almost all elections seem to have close to 40% of base R's and D's (for those that lose). Opinions can have that spread, but when it comes to voting there is more loyalty.

"Hey, 19" after the Steely Dan song, every time his name comes up in conversation. NINETEEN percent! Impressive! Actually, I'm surprised it's that high.

:evilgrin:

"Indeed, Iraq - which has emerged as the public's top priority in the poll - has become a particularly thorny issue for Bush. Fifty-seven percent believe he deliberately misled people to make the case for war, compared with 35 percent who say he gave the most accurate information he had. In addition, 58 percent are less confident the war will come to a successful conclusion, and 57 percent say the United States should reduce the number of U.S. troops there. "

But a certain percentage of people will always be devout followers. I just wish Bush's devout followers were less than 10%.

way way way before anybody.

At this point in his presidency Dick Nixon was in the high twenties.

Can Georgie get there?

quicksand, environmental quicksand..must really "suck"!

but they keep on trying. Smearing opponents is so much easier than governing. And when they do govern, it's only to push policies that are becoming less and less popular.

They wish it was only quicksand.

that the strong economy would help the GOP. I guess she was blowing smoke out of her ass once again.

Was wondering about that.

What an image! YEAOWWW!

if only she had those eyes that went independent of each other.

yeah, she's the type that would bite your head off when she orgasms.

senses after being clueless for way too long.

I hope and pray that this worldwide nightmare will soon end.

scream it loud!

Things they used in 2005 to try to pump up Smirk's poll numbers?

...in the Middle East while dismantling the economy at home, and his resulting popularity swept him back into office! Why can't his son get the same break?

poppy didn't time it well like shrub did. poppy peaked at over 90% popularity and did a steady decline down to the high 40s right at election time.

His son got one over on the old man, but he had to cheat to do it.

Poppy didn't get to stand on top of that rubble when those "folks" knocked those buildings down either.

pathetic.

Yes, I understand, the media during Bush's term wasn't exactly "liberal." In fact, it was also laden with propaganda. But not the degree we see "respectable" news anchors peddling now. And then there's FOX.

Yes, I understand, Orsino was being sarcastic. But I hate that the corruption in the media is ignored so often, even by us.

:sarcasm:

And the internals has to scare the political bajeezus out every Repub in the country. Dismal, disastrous, unprecedented don't even begin to cover the implosion we're witnessing.

That is a huge win for a democrat in this state.

Granted, Kilgore is a moron. Having Russ Potts, the "Independent" candidate tell everyone what a moron Kilgore is had to help Kaine, but this doesn't detract from Kaine's win in the least.

This race was polling as too close to call in the last week. At the last minute, a bunch of mainstream republicans decided they couldn't vote for right to life, pro death penalty (never mind the contradiction) and anti-gay marriage Kilgore because he was too much of a right wing loon.

I hope against hope this is a trend.

"Indeed, Iraq �Ewhich has emerged as the public�s top priority in the poll �Ehas become a particularly thorny issue for Bush. Fifty-seven percent believe he deliberately misled people to make the case for war, compared with 35 percent who say he gave the most accurate information he had. In addition, 58 percent are less confident the war will come to a successful conclusion, and 57 percent say the United States should reduce the number of U.S. troops there."

That's it, right there. The people are actually ready for impeachment. I know it's not really proper to use data from two different polls, but if you put this 57% together w/ Zogby's 50+% that would impeach him if he misled, well, you get the picture.

Olbermann was speaking with Dana Milbank of Wash. Post. Milbank poo-poohed the idea of impeachment but I thought it was signficant that M$M is airing it.

nm

"While the poll shows that a plurality of 43 percent views the Republican Party negatively, the Democratic Party doesn't�t fare much better � just 33 percent view them positively, vs. 36 percent who see them in a negative light."

So here it is, *only* 36% see the democrats negatively, while 43% see the Republicans negatively. Such numbers do not a revolution make.

what we would like to see, of course, is a Democratic Party that ran on issues like ending the war (not, "we will withdrawal when we stabilize Iraq, we are better managers of imperial war"), a platform that ensures health care for all, not fair profits for health care megacorporations; Fair trade, not clinton-bush "free trade"; minimum wage increases that will make a real difference in people's lives... and so on.

If people see something worth fighting for, it will make all the difference.

He's not done falling yet.

we all are. This country is left with a host of problems of unlimited magnitude, among which, to name a few, a bona fide constitutional crisis that became obvious, albeit unanimously denied, in 2000, a decayed infra-structure, a drastic loss, rather than a gain, in "values", a complete destruction of the public information system and a financial situation close to bankrupcy. No one will be held accountable, as usual, and our "white knights" have proven to be, to a very few exceptions, unreliable and spineless. The Idiot has reigned, his associates have plundered, people have died and the problems above get worse by the minute. No reason to rejoice.

Jim Rodger's and Warren Buffet's assets. This administration advocates job outsourcing and has an active policy of the devaluing the US dollar. The Chicago Federal Bank chief just went on record as saying that "we" own the printing presses and "we" will print as much money as needed. In the world history of bad ideas, this has NEVER worked in the long term, NEVER worked in the mid term, and RARELY worked in the short term. The US has gone from the world's largest creditor nation in the late 80's to the world's largest debtor nation now. In addition, we are the largest debtor nation in the history of the world. Our debt is increasing by 1.6 Trillion dollars every 18 months. That's trillion with a T. What will happen to the US dollar over the next 10 years as baby boomers move to retire en masse will be both dramatic and terrifying.

through states red and blue.

I almost gave up when Nixon beat McGovern.

say that "kicking ass" was why they voted for the Idiot?

- not quite. Still some way to go. Rock bottom is when they are all breaking rocks. Could not happen to a nicer bunch of criminal incompetents.

10th NOV 11:25 hrs IST
New poll finds Bush's approval hit new low
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Washington: US President George W. Bush's approval ratings have hit a new low, signaling political trouble ahead for the American leader, according to a new opinion poll. The joint survey by NBC News and The Wall Street Journal found that public opinion of Bush performance in five areas -- overall job performance, the economy, foreign policy, terrorism and Iraq -- have hit new lows.

The president's overall job approval rating stood at 38 percent, a one-point decline since October, showed the poll made public yesterday. Meanwhile, only 34 percent of those surveyed approved of his handling of the economy, 35 percent of foreign policy, 39 percent of his policy on terrorism and 32 percent of Iraq.

The survey showed 57 percent of Americans believed Bush deliberately misled people to make the case for war, compared with 35 percent who said he gave the most accurate information he had. In addition, 58 percent were less confident the war will come to a successful conclusion, while 57 percent said the United States should reduce the number of US troops in Iraq.
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http://www.manoramaonline.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=manorama/MmArticle/CommonFullStory&c=MmArticle&channel=News&cid=1131589084426&colid=1002258272837&count=10&p=1002366458817&WebLogicSession=Q3LszucH4P9NRCIQr6igci45sJneSaoq93Kzec0y6252FhLxUSxG|-3

cutting binge, 2 repukes were let go this week. One had a picture of Chimpy standing with the firemen after 9-11. He was posing so badly that I called it Blue Steele.

I hate to see anybody lose their jobs but it did seem rather like poetic justice that 2 such rabid rightwingers would go. Both,btw,were 6 figure jobs. Ouch!!!

Even when poll goes down to teens, he still couldn't careless. Only ones who might give a damn when comes '06 election, many republicans is going to get real nervious.

but he could easily drop faster.

He should get a 100% rating. He has pretty well decimated the American middle class and the poor, and the rich has never had it better.

He is a corporate globalist. His audience is the global rich. He could care less about any U.S. citizen.

It pains me to think we had to learn this the hard way.

the war, terrorism, and foreign policy are irrelevant. Don't lose sight of what's important- Gays can't marry! :sarcasm:

LIED.

And 2060 Americans are now DEAD.

NOW! The world is watching our disarray in total disbelief at how far down we have descended. The terrorists are watching too. They see a weakened nation with a hapless clown as our head.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm

Second one down.

Every little point means so much to me - ratbastards. :mad:

what was all-time low?

(On edit: Of course, if I had read the entire thread first, I'd have seen that this comment had already been made last night. Mia culpa. Great snarky minds think alike, and all that. :-) )

Would anyone even know what an anvil looks like if not for cartoons?

NEW YORK, Nov. 10 (UPI) -- Support for U.S. Republicans is eroding, and a 48 percent plurality want the Democrats to take control of Congress, a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows.

The telephone survey of 1,003 adults, conducted from Nov. 4 to Nov. 7, found 48 percent of those asked favored a Democratic-dominated House after next year's election, compared with 37 percent backing Republicans. The 11-point gap is the widest enjoyed by either party on that question since the poll began asking it in 1994.

However, the Republicans had some edges in the poll, with 21 percentage points over Democrats on maintaining a strong defense, by 17 percentage points on promoting strong moral values and by 9 percentage points on handling the war on terrorism.

Republicans hold a 231-203 edge over Democrats in the House, with one seat vacant. In the Senate, their advantage is 55-45. Of 33 Senate seats up for grabs next year, 15 are held by Republicans.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20051110-09433300-bc-us-poll.xml

People WANT the Democrats to TAKE CONTROL!

In with competence. Out with cronies and criminals.

That is the most adroit assessment of the opposition to date. Republicans = dumb, whiny, bratty, immature pigs. Like tiny boys throwing sand at each other in a school yard. The kind of sand that kills bystanders and fucks up the sandbox for the next fifty years and makes other parents not want to send their kids to our school. It's time for some adults to start putting these shits in time-out. Permanently.

Are these people stupid?

Counting on republicans to provide strong moral values is like counting on the Pope to start an abortion clinic in St. Peter's!!

Moral values are not sending someone off to die for selfish reasons.

Moral values are caring for those who have nothing, not those who have plenty.

Moral values are placing more importance on all citizens having healthcare coverage, instead of on insurance companies' profits.

Moral values are making sure we leave the environment intact for future generations, not treating it as a limitless all-you-can-eat buffet.

Moral values are MAKING corporations curb their pollution and end self-serving business practices (i.e. outsourcing) - because they won't do it themselves.

Moral values are caring for a child AFTER it's born, not just while it's "pre-born".

Moral values are actually placing more resources for education, not just fudging numbers so it merely looks like more students are graduating.

Moral values are allowing ALL citizens the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - not just people who look like you and go to the same church as you.

there's more to this "morality" dealie than hating homosexuals and killing muslims?

Damn, why didn't somebody tell me this BEFORE I followed my church's advice and voted for Bush to make Jesus happy . . . :dunce:

for president

Nice to see you're finally awake. DumbShits. :mad:

That's how I feeel!