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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 10:56 PM Original message |
WP: Down Syndrome Now Detectable In 1st Trimester |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Watch the RW try to shut it down.... |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. Man...you took the words right outta my mouth! |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
83. Actually, this will ensure abortion doesn't go away IMO. There's no way |
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CONN (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
101. Clarification: RWers don't have abortions... |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
91. Wow I was thinking the exact same thing reading this article... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. we're getting this done tomorrow and friday |
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kwyjibo (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. good luck & congratulations! |
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Mel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I wish you luck |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Blessings and luck! |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 08:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Good luck, unblock. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. Having had two amniocentesis (es), I wish you only the best of |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
73. MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH LUCK! |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. This screening test has a very high false positive rate |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The article says pretty much the opposite. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The original studies. Unfortunately, the manner in which the |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. i'll keep this in mind if we get a "worrisome" result |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Actually, the opposite is true... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 05:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
31. it's mrs. unblock who's the pregnant one |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 12:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. A dear friend of mine had a false positive result from an amnio... |
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FrankX (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
64. I too had a friend who got a positive, kept baby and was fine. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
65. Wow! |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. Moc, I'd just like to thank you for taking the time to fill us in on how |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. My pleasure! |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
102. moc, thank you for your information. |
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hallc (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. self delete |
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hallc (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Where are you getting this from? |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. See post above for detailed explanation. |
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hallc (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. i see.. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Still there remains the eternal ethical question: |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. I know a woman who aborted her baby because it was Down's |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 06:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Much discussion here in The Netherlands on growing pressures on parents |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. I know it's a horrible thing to face |
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RaRa (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 06:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
34. self delete |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 08:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
39. So, how do you feel about women aborting healthy fetuses? |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. before you get your panties in a bunch |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
97. No, I understood you perfectly well. You were upset with this |
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. Respecting someone's choice doesn't mean keeping quiet. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Actually, I don't think it's your right to meddle into someone |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-05 02:37 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. I never told her should or should not abort this child |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
42. I would have to say I support her decision |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. I agree with you..... it was just a tough thing to see her go through |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
58. I knew one who smothered her Down's child then committed suicide |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. How tragic..... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
68. Working with the disabled and having one for your own child |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
72. I work with them too |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
89. I know they're not all equal.. |
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expatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 03:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
28. When does it become eugenics? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. If the state has an interest in banning smoking or making folks wear |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. the fact that the state has an interest |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
69. That is why all decisions about whether to carry a pregnancy |
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deerhead (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. This Is Huge |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. A good point. Can genetic treatments be employed to help future babies |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I doubt any treatment will be possible any time soon. |
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expatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 03:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
29. I have known several families with Down Syndrome children. |
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hallc (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. not likely |
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interupt (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-09-05 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
12. My niece born three weeks ago has Downs |
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flygal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 12:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Oh what a great post |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Blessings to you all and to a lucky wee girl with a loving family |
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interupt (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 08:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Thank you |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. Just a note from a different perspective |
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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I agree |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. please don't spread misinformation |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. just a note on that false logic |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
77. Don't misunderstand.... |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. This is not entirely accurate |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 02:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
78. Not conviced of the safety of home births? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. not quite all women would still give birth |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. As I and my child would have been dead |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. amazing to think about it, isn't it? |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 02:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
80. I want to be sure to be respectful |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 07:47 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. In my case |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
108. Our horrible hosptial experience: |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-05 01:33 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. I forgot to mention... |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 02:16 AM Response to Reply #26 |
79. I respect your story & your experience.... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. you seem to have misunderstood |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. I think you & I are 98% in agreement |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 05:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Thank you |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 06:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. I do so agree here.... |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
52. A trend in the U.S. that I find very disturbing are OBs who refuse |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. My OB/Gyn was flexible enough to let me have nuchal transparency |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 02:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
81. Thank you, that was my point |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. well, I share your nostalgia |
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electricray (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Some might say risk-avoidance is a risk in and of itself. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
19. Why don't handicapped folks have a right to live? |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 01:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. That is not the issue and you know it |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. it very well could result in aborting those ones that aren't "keepers" |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. No duh.I said I am neutral & cannot judge another's heart, & I meant it |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Try being the parent of a severely handicapped child... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. and consider the good parents with the less severely disabled child |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
74. That woman with the cleft palate might be me. |
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catabryna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 12:21 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. davsand ~~ Laura |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. I sent you a pm. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 07:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
92. not you! |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
106. If it makes you feel any better |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. That's not what the poster said at all |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. a neighbor boy I grew up playing with had Huntingdons... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. Humanity Isn't Prepared To Deal With The Ethical Morass This Presents |
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maximovich (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
60. Now If Only This Medical Break-Through |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
66. So will the repugs demand... |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-10-05 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
75. This sounds like a holy battle between HMO's and the Holy Rollers! Both |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. This makes me sick |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. How can you dictate what any woman should choose? |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Self deleted. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. What about financial concerns? |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Financial concerns |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. It certainly can be. Downs Children |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. your self-righteousness |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Wishing nasty things to happen to "healthy babies"-not cool. |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-12-05 03:28 AM Response to Reply #96 |
112. You're missing my point |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. Please don't judge until you've walked in these shoes. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #85 |
104. Very ugly post. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-11-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
100. Wow, so many important issues raised in this thread |
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