Many in Jordan See Old Enemy in Attack: Israel

ZARQA, Jordan, Nov. 11 - The Maktoum Mosque was crowded with worshipers for Friday Prayer as the imam sharply criticized the suicide attacks on three hotels in Amman, saying those who committed the crimes were not Muslims, no matter what they called themselves.

Zarqa is the birthplace of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. Afterward, on the street, people agreed that whoever committed such an act could not be a Muslim. But many meant this literally, that the attack must have been carried out by outsiders, namely Israeli agents.

While most Arabs have long viewed Israel as their enemy, the extent to which Israel weighs on the regional psyche and diverts attention away from social, political, religious and economic issues that cannot be ignored, many social and political analysts say.

Gen. Fouad Allam, former director of state security in Egypt, said, for example, that the attack on a Hilton Hotel in Taba last year - in which mostly Israelis were killed - had to be the work of the Israeli secret service, the Mossad. "It was very well planned, studied, professional, and with a very high capacity," he said. "We never had this kind of capacity over the past 50 years."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/12/international/middleeast/12amman.html

Who killed Hariri?Israel's Mossad assassinates Hariri

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... Hariri was born to a poor Sunni Muslim family in Sidon, Lebanon in ...
judicial-inc.biz/Lebanon_Prime_Minister.htm

I will be looking for that information.Who can we believe these days?
In order for PNAC to fulfill its mission they require a friendly pro-
western gov't from Lebanon thru Syria,Iraq,Iran,Afghanistan,Pakistan and India right to the doorstep of China.First Hariri,then Syria,then
trouble in Jordan,bogged down in Iraq,threaten to nuke Iran,we own Afghanistan,Pakistan is on board and India is our friend.It just stinks of the Bush Crime family....jmho

no denying that, but what its ideology would like, and reality are two different issues

Most of the world does NOT agree with the PNAC philosophy, and by going into Iraq, we have no destabilized that entire region

As I see it we must leave Iraq. We are a catalyst for instability.

We should be in discussions with the U.N. to start to draw down, and the UN take over to try to prevent a civil war, which may be impossible. Eventually the Shiites will take over, and align themselves with Iran, so it would be beneficial to start a dialog with Iran, no matter what our differences. By the way, I doubt any of that will happen, but as long as we are there the animosity against us will increase in that region, and we will be the scape goat for any and everything, whether it involved us or not

Bush and company should be impeached for this

It is time for the democrats to speak up loud and clear

I'm surprised anyone is still waving the Mehlis report around. Used toilet tissue has more worth.

themselves. I do NOT see both sides presented

In fact all the articles seem to blame the U.S. and Israel on all the ills of the world.

Is the racism and civil war in Sudan caused by the U.S. and Israel?

I give credit to the Clinton administration for the removal of the nuclear weapons/materials from Lybia, though the * administration is trying to justify the war in Iraq as the reason, the real reason was the dialog started by the Clinton administration.

A perfect example is how this administration screwed up the progress that the Clinton administration made in North Korea.

This is the most incompentent, unethical, and dangerous administration we have ever had, but not all the ills of the world are because of the U.S.

I would venture to guess that all the ills of the world are NOT the product of just one "evil entity".

So why do the U.S./Israel promote the idea that all the ills of the world are the product of "Al Qaeda" or of "Arab terrorism"?

It's hard to call them hypocritical for blaming everything on the U.S./Israel, when the U.S./Israel are blaming everything on "Muslim ragheads".

and I DON'T mean that in a negative connotation

now going around with bumper stickers that say "Willie Pete (White Phosphorus) Cures Ragheads!", while simultaneously thanking their soiled god Bush for saving us all from "Saddam's chemical weapons."

and not only that, trying to allow torture as part of our policy

I think peoples eyes are starting to open here

lets hope the democrats and moderate republicans take back the country

here we are, and some of us are complaining that our democrats have rolled over for the republican juggernaut, time and again.

But the democrats are snarling feral animals compared to the "moderate republicans", when it comes to confronting the republican powers-that-be (the Jeff Sessions/Tom DeLay brand of republican.)

Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, moderate republicans can go home, back to their accounting firms or stock brokerages or mega-construction companies, and stay the f*ck out of our government. They are only slightly less despicable than are the Sessions/DeLay/Cheney breed of republicans.

It's amazing how we never had to go to war (atleast, a long term battlefield like with iraq), and everything was dealt with so quickly most people forgot about it shortly after. But I guess people are quick to forget the good the dems do, even with the republicans carrying on meaningless wars for years.

is complete and the results are known. Seems to me that's how it was left. And the report is due in mid-December. So, it may be a bit premature to say with certainty what the UN has concluded, at any rate.

It is one of the most blatantly anti-semitic sites out there.

Judicial-inc.biz blames Kristallnacht, the sinking of the Lusitania, Abu Nidal, Entebbe, Idi Amin, Black September, the Beirut barracks attack, the Achille Lauro hijacking, and dozens of other incidents on Jews.

It's patently anti-Semitic drivel and anybody who relies on it as a source is an idiot or worse.

"Msulims do NOT kill Muslims"?

The Iraq/Iran war or the centuries of fighting among Arabs, or the Sunni and Shiite, or the persecution of Christians in Lebanon by Islamic fundamentalists was all Israels fault. What a crock

so which muslims were not muslims in the iraqi/iranian war?.....

like it was said..what a bunch of crock...not surprising, as its "lets blame the usual suspects"...syndrom...

Exactly the same way as Christians will say the same thing about other Christians....

It was reported there were even muslims in the victims of 9/11. Muslims only 'don't kill muslims' when it's conveniant to scrutinize their 'sins' for denying their cause. This 'sin' simply not being totally hateful of the US.

But to be fair, the same could be said of all religions. What kind of religion would be willing to murder its own? If you look at history, all of them. Extremism can be a pretty scary thing...

and also recognizes Israel, plus it is the gateway to Iraq...he wants to transform part of the region to the Caliphate...

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/10/1527205

The radical Salafi trend criticizes the Muslim Brotherhood for, in their view, compromising the principles of jihad and accepting subjugation to infidel regimes closely associated with the U.S.

The first trend, the Muslim Brotherhood, which was established by Hassan al-Banna in 1928 in Egypt, calls for peaceful political participation to bring about a society based on Islamic principles. The other one, largely represented by al Qaeda, supports any means necessary, including violence, to achieve similar goals.

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/article.cfm?archiveDate=07-12-05&storyID=21824

Historically, Salafism-Wahhabism allied itself with the ruling Saud family and Western states, including the United States. It is worth mentioning that in the 1980s the United States and the Saudi royal family assembled and financed a large army of Arab and Muslim volunteers and veterans in Afghanistan. Bin laden was Saudi Arabia's point man during the Afghan jihad.

The rupture within Salafism-Wahhabism occurred after 1991 following the American intervention in the Arabian Peninsula to expel the Iraqi army from Kuwait. The royal family's decision to sanction the permanent stationing of U.S. troops in the kingdom enraged the religious sensibilities of many Salafis and Wahhabis like bin Laden and led them to rebel against both the House of Saud and its American "masters." American intervention in the Arabian Peninsula was the catalyst that set bin Laden and his radical Saudi cohorts on their current journey. The most visible changes in the Muslim world today include the fragmentation of traditional as well as fundamentalist forms of authority.

But many people in the Middle East condemn al Qaeda but still oppose the Americans. Earlier they saw ‘Apostate Muslim rulers’ standing in the way of their goal of establishing an Islamic government based upon Shariah, or Islamic law. It was to this end that al-Jama'a al-Islamiya (Islamic Group), and Tanzim al-Jihad (Islamic Jihad), led by current Al Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri, collaborated on the 1981 assassination of Egyptian president Anwar Sadat. (Jama'a al-Islamiya is not associated with the Indonesian group of the same name who recently immolated Bali for a second time.) In fact the majority of jihadis have been religious nationalists whose fundamental goal was to effect change in their own society. Next the eclipse of the jihadis had to do with military defeat, but it was also the inevitable result of intellectual poverty.

Confident over their victory against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, what had become transnationalist jihadists by now, believed that the United States would flee the battlefield after two or three serious blows. However while the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq has angered many Muslims, the terrorist movement remains largely unpopular for a number of reasons. One, most Muslims disagree with the use of violence to affect political and cultural change.

Thus the vocabulary left in the jihadist dictionary is paramilitary action. They try to compensate for the paucity of original ideas by marching to war.

http://sociologyesoscience.com/balilondon.html

Even through respectable Italian journalists appearing on Democracy Now?

If this is true, we're surrounded. And, as the conclusion says, "disposable".

"Now the enemies of the U.S. enemy are Chinese enemies too, and my U.S. enemy is now my WTO corporate business partner."

Welcome to the New World Order.

Talk about mind f*ck. Others need to see this and it's hidden in this thread. :eyes:

I just got home and saw your response. I am to new to feel comfortable reposting this. Would you mind? It really is an eye opener and I would like to see others comment on it. Thanks

I don't know what to make of that woman confessing to be a bomber. My tin foil hat is firmly in place because this scenario makes much more sense.

it puts things in perspective.The blasts in Jordan,Lebanon,the Iraq War,is there an agenda? Mossad,PNACers,Bilderbergers Corporations,and we the peasants are the vicims.The Hyatt blast was key for me,removing
key Palestinians from the picture and drawing the Chinese into the war
on terror sniffs of the Bush Crime Family with all its tentacles,a massive tree of corruption with world domination in mind.
Wacko,a Big Welcome to DU.!!!!!!
have a beer..:toast: NO have two..:toast:

Here we go some more!

at least four times--at least that is what is being reported in other news sources.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9979747/

Al Qaeda is said to be on its knees or standing on Democracy's neck, whichever fits the needs of this administration at any given moment.

news media ... thats the same thing that happened in Spain!!!

Do you no longer trust anything you hear?

Who likes to admit it is as easy as this?:

Go to target. Walk around. Bring a little explosives and see if anything sniffs it out. Next time wear bombs or bring box-cutters. Use wristwatches. Kaboom.

Put guards around a secure space. Display the Pieta. Smiling nut with hammer jumps up and bashes face of statue.

Surround candidate with smiling supporters and security men. Up walks someone with handgun and blam.

The beauty of this is that a $50,000,000 pro hit could mask behind the ordinary vulnerability and share the same result along with the planners not getting caught, but that is actually easier to catch out and more redeeming to the security forces than the lone amateur who is also one of their own citizens or religionists.

Experience here shows that Occam's Razor and the simpler explanation, even when incredibly open and stupid, is very often the case, not intelligently intricate schemes and conspiracies. Unintelligent ham-handed conspiracies like Bushco's standard operations are another matter and are also bewildering by the need to temper giving them the benefit of intelligence.